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Dig this! (from http://www.newsoftheweird.com/archive/index.html) for 12/28/14

Some students at Harvard, Columbia and Georgetown law schools demanded in December that professors postpone final exams because those lawyers-in-training were too traumatized by the grand jury decisions in Ferguson, Missouri, and New York City, which cost them sleep and made them despair of the legal system's lack of integrity. (Critics cited by Bloomberg Business Week suggested that lawyers who cannot function at a high level in the face of injustice might fare poorly in the profession.) [Bloomberg Business Week, 12-9-2014]

 

[Spinach Dip]

Those are the future lawyers of America. Already trying to game the system and get legal action to suit their own whims.



My generation is full of !@#$ing #$#@!s.

 

[deleted480308]

this country's pandering to "offense" will be the end of our freedoms...

 

[Doudline]

IIRC law students at these institutions actively participated in the public debates and manifestations about Ferguson & co. I imagine a number of them sacrified a lot of their time for this (perhaps with encouragements from their faculties, too - my friends in the legal world tend to regard the top law schools as very liberal).

While that request might seem exaggerated -and possibly it is- it is not without any foundements, and that "article" isn't very profound, to say the least. We're not even remotely getting both sides of the story.

 

[deleted407021]

I would have thought that the admissions for those schools would screen for adults...

 

[Lamel]

This sort of stuff happens all the time, even in undergrad. Whenever there was any type of mild weather inconvenience, students in my bio class would constantly email professors for extensions.

 

[BurbyPrep89]

Lolz, they should be prepping for the California Bar instead of doing this:

http://abovethelaw.com/2014/12/california-bar-exam-results-by-law-school-open-thread-july-2014/

"Go home, Yale, you're drunk." Best line ever.

NB: My parents are attorneys which is why I occassionally read Above The Law. Btw, is there a Medicine equivalent to this website? 😀

 

[Cyberdyne 101]

Apparently, the lawyers at my job were too traumatized to work on New Year's Day, so they left me with this pile of work ... 😕

 

[deleted407021]

Maybe they're just doing a "lawyer bulls**t" practicum.

 

[BurbyPrep89]

Er isn't today a legal holiday? No pun intended 😉

 

[Psai]

This is lamer that those "die-ins" that those medical students did

 

[aprimenumber]

This is lamer that those "die-ins" that those medical students did

Here we go...

 

[jakeislove]

Is anyone surprised?

At least they're not laying on their backs and making posts on social media.

 

[Spinach Dip]

IIRC law students at these institutions actively participated in the public debates and manifestations about Ferguson & co. I imagine a number of them sacrified a lot of their time for this (perhaps with encouragements from their faculties, too - my friends in the legal world tend to regard the top law schools as very liberal).

While that request might seem exaggerated -and possibly it is- it is not without any foundements, and that "article" isn't very profound, to say the least. We're not even remotely getting both sides of the story.

You may have a point, but the critical line to me is "which cost them sleep and made them despair of the legal system's lack of integrity."

Note they did not say "which cost them sleep because they skipped classes to do pro-bono work for the prosecution..."

 

[aprimenumber]

Is anyone surprised?

At least they're not laying on their backs and making posts on social media.

I'm just curious, what exactly do people have against those protests? Other than the usual rants against "slacktivism" or millennials protesting out of boredom instead of good intention, I don't really see anything wrong with students trying to raise awareness about an issue that they feel is important.

 

[jakeislove]

I'm just curious, what exactly do people have against those protests? Other than the usual rants against "slacktivism" or millennials protesting out of boredom instead of good intention, I don't really see anything wrong with students trying to raise awareness about an issue that they feel is important.

If people honestly felt it was important they would have already been doing something. These aren't new problems or issues. The only thing that's changed is the ability to garner attention and endlessly hashtag about how great a person one is for doing nothing.

 

[Psai]

I'm just curious, what exactly do people have against those protests? Other than the usual rants against "slacktivism" or millennials protesting out of boredom instead of good intention, I don't really see anything wrong with students trying to raise awareness about an issue that they feel is important.

No one said anything about protests. It said they were "traumatized".

 

[Bottle]

Thats why I can't take the U.S law seriously. People can claim whatever they want, and they can easily find a listening ears.
I also had a very traumatizing, discolored poop before my O-chem final. Do you think I should've emailed my professor about it?

 

[aprimenumber]

No one said anything about protests. It said they were "traumatized".

I was addressing something else (the medical school die-ins). Sorry for diverting this thread a little off topic.

If people honestly felt it was important they would have already been doing something. These aren't new problems or issues. The only thing that's changed is the ability to garner attention and endlessly hashtag about how great a person one is for doing nothing.

So...it's the slacktivism that you have a problem with (which almost everybody does, since slacktivism is one of the pillars of millennial narcissism). But I disagree with your other point. People who support causes often need a little momentum to get them to come out, and if there's one thing this cause hasn't had for years until recently, it's momentum. By your reasoning, nothing should ever be done for any cause in the future because currently we're currently not hearing those protesters. If in 20 years, ocean levels rise uncontrollably and we start getting mass protests to raise awareness for climate change and to spur government actions, there will be people using your exact same reasoning by asking those protesters where they were for all these years, because after all, climate change has been an issue for quite a while now.

EDIT: To clarify my comments regarding "protests", I'm talking about medical school die-ins. I have little to no sympathy for the plight of these law students.

 

[jakeislove]

I was addressing something else (the medical school die-ins). Sorry for diverting this thread a little off topic.

So...it's the slacktivism that you have a problem with (which almost everybody does, since slacktivism is one of the pillars of millennial narcissism). But I disagree with your other point. People who support causes often need a little momentum to get them to come out, and if there's one thing this cause hasn't had for years until recently, it's momentum. By your reasoning, nothing should ever be done for any cause in the future because currently we're currently not hearing those protesters. If in 20 years, ocean levels rise uncontrollably and we start getting mass protests to raise awareness for climate change and to spur government actions, there will be people using your exact same reasoning by asking those protesters where they were for all these years, because after all, climate change has been an issue for quite a while now.

EDIT: To clarify my comments regarding "protests", I'm talking about medical school die-ins. I have little to no sympathy for the plight of these law students.

No. It's hypocrisy I have a problem with.

I may have been "traumatized", too. Is there a nonprofit out there that wants to pay off my student loans?! 🙂

 

[aprimenumber]

No. It's hypocrisy I have a problem with.

I may have been "traumatized", too. Is there a nonprofit out there that wants to pay off my student loans?! 🙂

We're arguing about different things. I'm asking about why some people here harbor such strong negative feelings towards the medical student die-ins, a topic which I thought you made a reference to, but in retrospect, I may have been wrong.

I don't disagree with your comments regarding the law students. It's hypocritical pampered entitlement.

 

[RTC19]

Dig this! (from http://www.newsoftheweird.com/archive/index.html) for 12/28/14

Some students at Harvard, Columbia and Georgetown law schools demanded in December that professors postpone final exams because those lawyers-in-training were too traumatized by the grand jury decisions in Ferguson, Missouri, and New York City, which cost them sleep and made them despair of the legal system's lack of integrity. (Critics cited by Bloomberg Business Week suggested that lawyers who cannot function at a high level in the face of injustice might fare poorly in the profession.) [Bloomberg Business Week, 12-9-2014]

 

[jakeislove]

We're arguing about different things. I'm asking about why some people here harbor such strong negative feelings towards the medical student die-ins, a topic which I thought you made a reference to, but in retrospect, I may have been wrong.

I don't disagree with your comments regarding the law students. It's hypocritical pampered entitlement.

You weren't wrong. It's the hypocrisy I can't tolerate.

People who cared would have already been involved in some activity that lead to social change.

These thing have gone on for years and I can't really figure out what's worse: Not knowing or thinking doing nothing will raise awareness.

 

[Chemistry>Physics]

Someone explain the med student die-ins to me!

 

[aprimenumber]

You weren't wrong. It's the hypocrisy I can't tolerate.

People who cared would have already been involved in some activity that lead to social change.

These thing have gone on for years and I can't really figure out what's worse: Not knowing or thinking doing nothing will raise awareness.

Well, for me personally, the recent publicity and media attention has actually allowed me to learn more about an issue which I was largely unaware of because of my privileged background. For example, I learned only a few months ago that black students at my college were often profiled by security officers as they walked back from the library to their dorms after hours, something which I knew would never happen to me. I was vaguely aware of these occurrences, but these more recent examples have only brought to light a greater underlying societal injustice.

A few years ago, I would never have protested these issues because I didn't believe that they were a big deal, and I felt that they were exaggerated, and attention was being paid to the wrong issue. However, now my view has changed as I've learned more about the issues at hand. If I was in a position to visibly protest these injustices today, I would do so. Would that make me a hypocrite? I'm sure that there is hypocrisy in the movement (along with any other movement), but I don't think that silence in the past mandates a fallacious or deceitful current intent.

 

[aprimenumber]

Someone explain the med student die-ins to me!

Medical students across the country have been staging "die-ins", where they dress in white coats and lie down in a large pile somewhere public. They often carry signs that say things like "Black Lives Matter" and "White Coats for Black Lives". The point of the protests is to raise awareness and draw attention towards the injustices that certain minorities face from law enforcement, where they are likely to lose their lives at the hands of said law enforcement. The recent Michael Brown, Eric Garner, and Tamir Rice cases (while different in their exact nature) have all drawn a lot of attention towards the abuses that black people in particular face from police in America.

In my opinion, the imagery of dead white coats is particularly powerful because of the villainizing of the victims that often occurs (before I go on, I will acknowledge that not all of them may have necessarily been innocent). The victims are often portrayed as "thugs", and commentators often try to portray the situation as a "thug vs anti-thug" situation where it's easier to dismiss the victim. The image of dead medical students counters that tactic because of the traditional societal respect that is associated with the profession and the altruistic symbolism associated with the coat.

 

[Chemistry>Physics]

Oh wow I never heard of that, thanks @aprimenumber

 

[deleted480308]

Medical students across the country have been staging "die-ins", where they dress in white coats and lie down in a large pile somewhere public. They often carry signs that say things like "Black Lives Matter" and "White Coats for Black Lives". The point of the protests is to raise awareness and draw attention towards the injustices that certain minorities face from law enforcement, where they are likely to lose their lives at the hands of said law enforcement. The recent Michael Brown, Eric Garner, and Tamir Rice cases (while different in their exact nature) have all drawn a lot of attention towards the abuses that black people in particular face from police in America.

In my opinion, the imagery of dead white coats is particularly powerful because of the villainizing of the victims that often occurs (before I go on, I will acknowledge that not all of them may have necessarily been innocent). The victims are often portrayed as "thugs", and commentators often try to portray the situation as a "thug vs anti-thug" situation where it's easier to dismiss the victim. The image of dead medical students counters that tactic because of the traditional societal respect that is associated with the profession and the altruistic symbolism associated with the coat.

Mike brown was a thug, that's why he got portrayed that way

 

[WingedOx]

oh, it's THIS thread again...

 

[aprimenumber]

Mike brown was a thug, that's why he got portrayed that way

I thought that the disclaimers I made in parenthesis would be enough to prevent THIS type of thread from occurring.

This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[deleted480308]

I thought that the disclaimers I made in parenthesis would be enough to prevent THIS type of thread from occurring.

This is why we can't have nice things.

You named mike brown as an example of "abuses" that black people face. That was a ridiculous statement

 

[Psai]

The die-ins were dumb because they looked silly. All they did was take a few pictures of themselves in their short white coats standing around with some signs in front of a camera then laying down. There's no symbolism and no one in power cares. Every single one of these cases were national news and none of them required any awareness. These "protests" were more about some students trying to make some nice pics for facebook and probably to write something in their cv

 

[aprimenumber]

You named mike brown as an example of "abuses" that black people face. That was a ridiculous statement

Never said that. I said that it drew attention to the abuses. You can't deny the fact that the Michael Brown case's media attention played a large role towards developing the current movement.

Dang it, I tried so hard to be careful with my word choice. I really did. I really hoped that people wouldn't just skim what I said and capriciously post a retort.

Just in case they did though, I also wrote those disclaimers in order to acknowledge the other side's validity. I should have realized that wasn't enough.

Why can't we have nice things?

 

[Psai]

stop talking about nice things

 

[aprimenumber]

stop talking about nice things

I like nice things...Don't you?

 

[deleted480308]

Never said that. I said that it drew attention to the abuses. You can't deny the fact that the Michael Brown case's media attention played a large role towards developing the current movement.

Dang it, I tried so hard to be careful with my word choice. I really did. I really hoped that people wouldn't just skim what I said and capriciously post a retort.

Just in case they did though, I also wrote those disclaimers in order to acknowledge the other side's validity. I should have realized that wasn't enough.

Why can't we have nice things?

Steak, chicken, and chicken all remind people of the past time they ate chicken. (i acknowledge not everyone thinks all those things are chicken)

^do you see how silly that looks? 😉

 

[Lamel]

The die-ins were dumb because they looked silly. All they did was take a few pictures of themselves in their short white coats standing around with some signs in front of a camera then laying down. There's no symbolism and no one in power cares. Every single one of these cases were national news and none of them required any awareness. These "protests" were more about some students trying to make some nice pics for facebook and probably to write something in their cv

If we only looked at how the national news portrayed these cases, it would be very lopsided. There is nothing wrong with protesting, whether you believe it is stupid or not. It did raise more awareness, just like other protests on the issue, and it definitely riled up some feathers, like yours.

 

[Psai]

My feathers are incredibly unriled to the point where you might say that they are unruffled

 

[aprimenumber]

Steak, chicken, and chicken all remind people of the past time they ate chicken. (i acknowledge not everyone thinks all those things are chicken)

^do you see how silly that looks? 😉

Heh, that reminds me of the time Ron explained that Tammy 1 was his bad chicken. I like Parks and Rec.

And yes, I agree that your analogy is silly 😉.

But continuing on with that chicken analogy. Think of police injustice as a bad chicken that someone ate once and now associates with chicken. Just because they're served a properly cooked chicken doesn't mean they won't still think of that time they ate bad chicken. (I know, this analogy is just as silly as yours).

I mentioned Michael Brown because Darren Wilson's deliberation trial results more or less started the #BlackLivesMatter movement. Even if Wilson was justified in his shooting of Brown, the case nevertheless brought up a long history of police abuse to light.

 

[aprimenumber]

My feathers are incredibly unruffled (which is what you meant I'm sure)

My feathers are non-existent! I'm a mammal!

 

[Lamel]

My feathers are incredibly unriled to the point where you might say that they are unruffled

My feathers are non-existent! I'm a mammal!

What about your jimmies?

 

[aprimenumber]

Wait a minute. This thread is supposed to be about us ridiculing law students! Anyone got a good lawyer joke?

 

[Entadus]

What about your jimmies?

MMmmm it's that gorilla PB cereal from TJ's....

 

[Cyberdyne 101]

Q: What's the difference between a jellyfish and a lawyer?
A: One's a spineless, poisonous blob. The other is a form of sea life.

 

[Feelgood Inc]

Wait a minute. This thread is supposed to be about us ridiculing law students! Anyone got a good lawyer joke?

I got a joke

law school

 

[Banco]

What do you call a busload of lawyers driving off a cliff?

A good start.

 

[Spinach Dip]

Q: What's the difference between a lawyer found dead on the side of the road, and a possum found dead on the side of the road?

A: There are skid marks before the possum. (highlight)

 

[Spinach Dip]

I got a joke

law school

🤣

NICE ONE!!!

 

[Goro]

Q: Why don't sharks eat lawyers?
A: Professional courtesy

Here's my favorite line from all of Shakespeare:
Dick: The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.
Henry The Sixth, Part 2 Act 4, scene 2, 71–78

Wait a minute. This thread is supposed to be about us ridiculing law students! Anyone got a good lawyer joke?

 

[G_Marker]

Typical lawyer move. They're on their way!