NicholasPavona
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Must be terrible for you. We do nothing but sign charts, drink coffee, chat up the pretty nurses. Make more and work lots less than you surgeons. 😆Yup, you’re still in a medical specialty that is really just glorified nursing. Now get back to charting, murse.
Must be terrible for you. We do nothing but sign charts, drink coffee, chat up the pretty nurses. Make more and work lots less than you surgeons. 😆
Every DNP I know has done it while working full time.
Is it completely “independent” or is there a firefighter around that’s not advertised?You should be worried about CRNA independence. They practice independently in Arizona and in Phoenix there are 10 or so hospitals that are CRNA only and they’ve been doing it for years. Phoenix is a strange job market since it’s a major metro with no real residency, so physician shortage is a serious issue throughout. But there’s been no major lawsuits or bad publicity. It’s almost become the status quo at non tertiary hospital or subspecialties. Surprisingly the only thing helping us is that some surgeons still only accept MDs. All three major systems have these set ups now and the hospital administrators love the cost saving.
They haven't changed the state law yet, so they practice under the surgeon/proceduralist and just don't tell them. When I was there, I tried to let the surgeons know, and they didn't care as long as they could get the cases done.I believe it is true crna independence. Arizona and Phoenix specifically are a weird market. In general seemed bad for anesthesiologists when I looked into it. Lots of true crna independence and envision heavy market. 👎👎
I’ve been told by administrators that they can practice without physician oversight or presence. Some hospitals may just have not updated their language since the law change during COVID. But the whole thing about practicing under a surgeon/proceduralist nowadays is a wives tale.They haven't changed the state law yet, so they practice under the surgeon/proceduralist and just don't tell them. When I was there, I tried to let the surgeons know, and they didn't care as long as they could get the cases done.
They opted out but never officially changed state law during Covid, so they do still practice under a physician, but the physician is not liable (a surgeon I knew got fired for not taking responsibility for the code of a patient under CRNA care survived when an MD from a separate group intervened). That is why the CRNA lobby keeps trying to change the law. It hasn't been changed yet, and CAAs are trying to get licensed, and one of the things the CRNAs want to add is that they can supervise CAAs. It hasn't passed yet. Any time it came up in the last few years, my parents and I wrote comments online on the comment thing for legislation. I have since moved out of state because I didn't like working in AZ despite loving AZ.I’ve been told by administrators that they can practice without physician oversight or presence. Some hospitals may just have not updated their language since the law change during COVID. But the whole thing about practicing under a surgeon/proceduralist nowadays is a wives tale.
Homie don't play dat! Anesthesia nurses do all the charting; that scut work is beneath me.Yup, you’re still in a medical specialty that is really just glorified nursing. Now get back to charting, murse.
Homie don't play dat! Anesthesia nurses do all the charting; that scut work is beneath me.
He only yells at CNN. Cheers Fox. Fixed it for ya.Yeah, you’re too busy farting in the lounge and yelling at Fox News.
It’s not a real physician lounge unless Fox News is on. I was shocked walking into hca lounge and saw msnbc news.He only yells at CNN. Cheers Fox. Fixed it for ya.
...house keepersIt’s not a real physician lounge unless Fox News is on. I was shocked walking into hca lounge and saw msnbc news.
It’s not a real physician lounge unless Fox News is on. I was shocked walking into hca lounge and saw msnbc news.
Haha, or CNBC…for some reason lot of physicians feel the need to constantly be watching the marketsIt’s not a real physician lounge unless Fox News is on. I was shocked walking into hca lounge and saw msnbc news.