Angle Ranking

[BabberSher]

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I had a question on angle ranking. Many people have a problem with this on the Actual DAT, because of the crappy PCs used for testing.

My question is, when we go about angle ranking (i'm talking about the ones that damn near impossible to differentiate between):

Should we just look at the angles, rank them, go w/ our gut feeling, and choose the multiple choice accordingly...? [this seems to be the correct way to do it]

or

Should we look at the angles, then look at the multiple choice answers, and use the answers as a guide in helping us out in choosing the correct one? [i have a feeling that the test makers make the multiple choice answers, in angle ranking like the answers in Reading Comp. I have the feeling that in both, they use the choices to sway u from the correct answers]

An example could be: angles 1,2,3,4
Lets say that angles 2 and 4 are almost identical. Your gut says that maybe angle 2 is the smaller one. Now, u go to and check the answer choices & u see that there are three options that say that angle 4 is the smaller one, and one option that says that angle 2 to is the smaller of the two angles.

The problem here is that NOW you might think that maybe angle four is the smaller of the two. So you go back to the angles and now u make urself think that angle 4 MAY just be a bit smaller to u, than angle 2.

So, is this the problem or "pitfall" that the test makers want u to go through? People second guessing their gut feelings? {so is it better to go with ur "gut feelings", or use the 'Choices' as ur guide in answering the question}

[This is a weird post, but please try to make sense of it and give me ur input]

 

[-OB-]

I had a question on angle ranking. Many people have a problem with this on the Actual DAT, because of the crappy PCs used for testing.

My question is, when we go about angle ranking (i'm talking about the ones that damn near impossible to differentiate between):

Should we just look at the angles, rank them, go w/ our gut feeling, and choose the multiple choice accordingly...? [this seems to be the correct way to do it]

or

Should we look at the angles, then look at the multiple choice answers, and use the answers as a guide in helping us out in choosing the correct one? [i have a feeling that the test makers make the multiple choice answers, in angle ranking like the answers in Reading Comp. I have the feeling that in both, they use the choices to sway u from the correct answers]

An example could be: angles 1,2,3,4
Lets say that angles 2 and 4 are almost identical. Your gut says that maybe angle 2 is the smaller one. Now, u go to and check the answer choices & u see that there are three options that say that angle 4 is the smaller one, and one option that says that angle 2 to is the smaller of the two angles.

The problem here is that NOW you might think that maybe angle four is the smaller of the two. So you go back to the angles and now u make urself think that angle 4 MAY just be a bit smaller to u, than angle 2.

So, is this the problem or "pitfall" that the test makers want u to go through? People second guessing their gut feelings? {so is it better to go with ur "gut feelings", or use the 'Choices' as ur guide in answering the question}

[This is a weird post, but please try to make sense of it and give me ur input]

i didn't even read your whole post b/c it is to long but i wanted to tell you what i did. I closed my left eye and put my right eye about 2 inches from the computer screen and then counted the pixels between the lines of the angles. It works for me, good luck.

 

[teefRcool]

i didn't even read your whole post b/c it is to long but i wanted to tell you what i did. I closed my left eye and put my right eye about 2 inches from the computer screen and then counted the pixels between the lines of the angles. It works for me, good luck.

just curious what did u get in the pat section

 

[BabberSher]

i didn't even read your whole post b/c it is to long but i wanted to tell you what i did. I closed my left eye and put my right eye about 2 inches from the computer screen and then counted the pixels between the lines of the angles. It works for me, good luck.

are u serious, or j/k?
Isn't it tough to do it on their PCs (The prometric center closest to me doesn't use flat screen moniters or lcd screens)

 

[INFNITE]

personally, I went with my gut feelings. If you're not sure, mark it down, finish the PAT section and go back if you had time.

 

[-OB-]

just curious what did u get in the pat section

20

 

[-OB-]

are u serious, or j/k?
Isn't it tough to do it on their PCs (The prometric center closest to me doesn't use flat screen moniters or lcd screens)

serious, this method actually worked better for me at the prometric center b/c of the crappy screens, it makes it easier to see the pixels....also, try adjusting the contrast and brightness.

 

[714guy]

I've just started sudying for my DAT. I just took a top score test and only missed one on the angle Ranking section, got 21 overall. I also did the barrons PAT and missed only 3 on the angle ranking.

Here's my stratgey, I always try to eliminate the incorrect answers first just like any MC question. Anyways i try to find the largest one first, and look at the choices and eliminate the ones where that isn't the last one. Usually you can narrow the choices down to 2.

Next i rip off the corner of a piece of paper, something that is see-thru, then I line it up to the angles that are close. I place the edge of the paper on 1 line of the angle and see where the line lies in reference to the edge of the paper. This helps out alot.

Try it out. Good luck

 

[howui3]

I've just started sudying for my DAT. I just took a top score test and only missed one on the angle Ranking section, got 21 overall. I also did the barrons PAT and missed only 3 on the angle ranking.

Here's my stratgey, I always try to eliminate the incorrect answers first just like any MC question. Anyways i try to find the largest one first, and look at the choices and eliminate the ones where that isn't the last one. Usually you can narrow the choices down to 2.

Next i rip off the corner of a piece of paper, something that is see-thru, then I line it up to the angles that are close. I place the edge of the paper on 1 line of the angle and see where the line lies in reference to the edge of the paper. This helps out alot.

Try it out. Good luck

The real DAT angles are a little harder then the Topscore, try using DATachiever if you want examples that you can expect to see on the test day.

Good luck.

 

[berryfremont]

guys the couting of the pixel might not work everytime...the reason is that you can still count pixels, but two angles that differ in a slight degree or two can still have the same amount of pixels...i went with my gut feelings on the real dat and still got above 90 percentile.....strategy for dat:what i did was click next until i got to problem 30 and started the pat section there (this will take off about 8 seconds of your time by clicking the next button repeatidly, but it's worth it to start here)i finished all the last sections and went back to the first 2 (top-front-end and key holes) which i thought were the most difficult....this way I didn't feel rushed on these, or feel like I wasn't going to get to the ones that I would surely get right...the angle ranking on the real pat section is almost impossible to study for, look over a couple practice exams, but don't expect the same thing on the real test.....for all of the other sections it was a lot easier than all of the practice tests...straight forward exam...word to the wise: know ortho, meta, para acidities with different substituents for organic(had about 6 of these and must have been the ones i missed)...and for gen chem. don't try and solve the answers by your own way (my downfall) b.c. the answers make you set up equations using the numbers they provide, so learn the formulas they give you and try and set up all of the problems that way....ok that's my 2 cents for the whole dat for everyone..enjoy

 

[BabberSher]

thanks for the heads up, really appreciate it 🙂

 

[Mr.E]

guys the couting of the pixel might not work everytime...the reason is that you can still count pixels, but two angles that differ in a slight degree or two can still have the same amount of pixels...i went with my gut feelings on the real dat and still got above 90 percentile.....strategy for dat:what i did was click next until i got to problem 30 and started the pat section there (this will take off about 8 seconds of your time by clicking the next button repeatidly, but it's worth it to start here)i finished all the last sections and went back to the first 2 (top-front-end and key holes) which i thought were the most difficult....this way I didn't feel rushed on these, or feel like I wasn't going to get to the ones that I would surely get right...the angle ranking on the real pat section is almost impossible to study for, look over a couple practice exams, but don't expect the same thing on the real test.....for all of the other sections it was a lot easier than all of the practice tests...straight forward exam...word to the wise: know ortho, meta, para acidities with different substituents for organic(had about 6 of these and must have been the ones i missed)...and for gen chem. don't try and solve the answers by your own way (my downfall) b.c. the answers make you set up equations using the numbers they provide, so learn the formulas they give you and try and set up all of the problems that way....ok that's my 2 cents for the whole dat for everyone..enjoy

This might be off topic and I apologize if it is, but how did you study for the QR part? I can't seem to break past a 15 on the damn section---I guess I just suck! Last time I took the test I scored really low, primarily because I forgot to strategized and decided to do the problem cronologically, which was a mistake because I ran out of time. Any advice you may have would really help.

 

[berryfremont]

I used the baron book and memorized some formulas for different problems..such as guessing peoples age and percentages......however, you have to somewhat be good in math naturally so try your best at memorizing formulas