Another 8/11 DAT

[WhoooaaaBUNDY]

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___PAT QR RC BIO gC oC TS AA
Real 21 29 22 20 23 25 21 24
Kap 13 14 15 14 13 13 13 14
(diagnostic)
Kap 24 21 21 16 16 18 16 19
(final)
TS1 22 18 x 18 17 18 18 x
TS2 24 20 23 19 18 20 20 20

Nothing compares to knowing it is finally over. This site helped me prepare for the test a lot, so I hope my scores will help people guage the benefit of kaplan and topscore, and how the real thing compares. Bio didn't seem too much harder (I got the sea urchin question), the chem sections were a breeze in comparison, QR was much easier, RC was about the same, PAT keyholes and angles were much harder (as everyone seems to agree). I took a kaplan class, used topscore, exam krackers bio, gchem, ochem, audio osmosis, and google.

The very best to everyone nearing test day! I'm off for a pint with a happy wife.

(On a side note: As if finishing the test wasn't reason-to-celebrate enough, on the way home from my test I got a phone call from my boss ... I got a $5,000 raise. WHAT A DAY.)

 

[isd121]

nice scores
all above 20

good luck 🙂

___PAT QR RC BIO gC oC TS AA
Real 21 29 22 20 23 25 21 24
Kap 13 14 15 14 13 13 13 14
(diagnostic)
Kap 24 21 21 16 16 18 16 19
(final)
TS1 22 18 x 18 17 18 18 x
TS2 24 20 23 19 18 20 20 20

Nothing compares to knowing it is finally over. This site helped me prepare for the test a lot, so I hope my scores will help people guage the benefit of kaplan and topscore, and how the real thing compares. Bio didn't seem too much harder (I got the sea urchin question), the chem sections were a breeze in comparison, QR was much easier, RC was about the same, PAT keyholes and angles were much harder (as everyone seems to agree). I took a kaplan class, used topscore, exam krackers bio, gchem, ochem, audio osmosis, and google.

The very best to everyone nearing test day! I'm off for a pint with a happy wife.

(On a side note: As if finishing the test wasn't reason-to-celebrate enough, on the way home from my test I got a phone call from my boss ... I got a $5,000 raise. WHAT A DAY.)

 

[WhoooaaaBUNDY]

In response to a pm about the rc section:

My topics were overuse of antibiotics, aging, and the uses and importance of calcium. I used the roadmap strategy kaplan teaches, and primarily had questions asking about specific details from the text. Probably 2 questions per passage concerning and overall idea, or the "writer's perspective" type. Writing dates, names, and specific details seemed to be the most beneficial. I didn't have a passage that correlated with questions in perfect order, as I have heard others have been lucky enough to get. Hope that helps!

 

[dat_student]

In response to a pm about the rc section:

My topics were overuse of antibiotics, aging, and the uses and importance of calcium. I used the roadmap strategy kaplan teaches, and primarily had questions asking about specific details from the text. Probably 2 questions per passage concerning and overall idea, or the "writer's perspective" type. Writing dates, names, and specific details seemed to be the most beneficial. I didn't have a passage that correlated with questions in perfect order, as I have heard others have been lucky enough to get. Hope that helps!

congrats for doing so well. How much time did you spend reading each passage??

 

[WhoooaaaBUNDY]

I spent roughly 10 min/passage, 10 min/associated questions. I kept waiting for that easy passage with questions ordered along with the passage to come up and save me time, but as I mentioned, didn't happen. This was the only section I was working on until the last second, but I had time for every question.

 

[syn_apse]

congrats on the DAT Bundy! You destroyed it 🙂
is MUSC still your top choice? hopefully I'll see you there!
best of luck!

 

[joooj86]

What is the Urchin question?

 

[dat_student]

What is the Urchin question?

how many offspring can a sea urchin couple have in a setting?
A. less than 10
B. more than 100
C. depends on mating seasons
D. Not enough information is provided; aesthetic values must also be taken into consideration.

 

[WhoooaaaBUNDY]

synapse - MUSC is definitely #1! I'm trying to get back to my home state, but the odds are stacked against me, being a non-resident. I'd be thrilled to see you there, hopefully I'll weasel in somehow. Much luck back to you.

The sea urchin question question was something to do with its ability to block repeated fertilization after the first sperm; it's come a few times recently, so I'm sure you can get a better explanation than my tired post-celebration recall. I only spent about 3 seconds on that one, thanks to SDN I just scanned for the answer and moved on.

 

[WhoooaaaBUNDY]

Perhaps this has been mentioned before...

One interesting thing I found on the PAT was a half-fold sort of thing I hadn't seen in paper folding. Perhaps this has shown up in study materials I didn't use, but imagine folding in half twice. At this point you see a solid block representing the 1/4 paper. The final fold puts a solid line down the center of the 1/4, which maintains the same size. I took this to mean that the top half (containing 2 layers), was folded back on the 1/4 sheet. I thought it was a mistake at first, but after it happened 3 times I got worried. I figured it out by the end of the section, luckily I had marked them and got back to them in time.

 

[Lostinbul]

Great Job!

 

[dat_student]

Perhaps this has been mentioned before...

One interesting thing I found on the PAT was a half-fold sort of thing I hadn't seen in paper folding. Perhaps this has shown up in study materials I didn't use, but imagine folding in half twice. At this point you see a solid block representing the 1/4 paper. The final fold puts a solid line down the center of the 1/4, which maintains the same size. I took this to mean that the top half (containing 2 layers), was folded back on the 1/4 sheet. I thought it was a mistake at first, but after it happened 3 times I got worried. I figured it out by the end of the section, luckily I had marked them and got back to them in time.

you confused me... 😉

 

[isd121]

Perhaps this has been mentioned before...

One interesting thing I found on the PAT was a half-fold sort of thing I hadn't seen in paper folding. Perhaps this has shown up in study materials I didn't use, but imagine folding in half twice. At this point you see a solid block representing the 1/4 paper. The final fold puts a solid line down the center of the 1/4, which maintains the same size. I took this to mean that the top half (containing 2 layers), was folded back on the 1/4 sheet. I thought it was a mistake at first, but after it happened 3 times I got worried. I figured it out by the end of the section, luckily I had marked them and got back to them in time.

i didn't get it 😕

what happens after folding in half twice?
.___ _ _ _ _
|...|..........i
|...|..........i
|...|..........i
|__|_ _ _ _i 🙄

 

[Bonkers29]

Perhaps this has been mentioned before...

One interesting thing I found on the PAT was a half-fold sort of thing I hadn't seen in paper folding. Perhaps this has shown up in study materials I didn't use, but imagine folding in half twice. At this point you see a solid block representing the 1/4 paper. The final fold puts a solid line down the center of the 1/4, which maintains the same size. I took this to mean that the top half (containing 2 layers), was folded back on the 1/4 sheet. I thought it was a mistake at first, but after it happened 3 times I got worried. I figured it out by the end of the section, luckily I had marked them and got back to them in time.

congratz man!! but could you please elaborate on this?

 

[WhoooaaaBUNDY]

Well, I'm not 100% sure I interpreted them correctly. It came up three times though, there were 3 folds each time, and the simple one that I can remember had a half-fold twice. So one complete length-wise fold, leaving 50% of the original area, but a rectangular shape. Then another complete half-fold, leaving 25% of the original area covered, a square once again. At this point the square was a typical solid square, however, the last fold just put a line through the center of the square, without reducing the dimensions of the square at all. I believe they took the top 2 layers, and folded them back on the 25% square, creating one 6-layer half of the final square, and one 2-layer half.

Try it with a piece of paper.

Sorry for a confusing explanation, maybe that fold is familiar to some, but I didn't see it in kaplan or topscore.

 

[WhoooaaaBUNDY]

The last 2 folds, the line through the middle occurs with no loss of area.
.___ _ _ _ _
|..............i
|____.......i
|......|......i
|___.|_ _ _i

.___ _ _ _ _
|..............i
|____ .......i
|____|.......i
|____|_ _ _i

 

[Flipper405]

Well, I'm not 100% sure I interpreted them correctly. It came up three times though, there were 3 folds each time, and the simple one that I can remember had a half-fold twice. So one complete length-wise fold, leaving 50% of the original area, but a rectangular shape. Then another complete half-fold, leaving 25% of the original area covered, a square once again. At this point the square was a typical solid square, however, the last fold just put a line through the center of the square, without reducing the dimensions of the square at all. I believe they took the top 2 layers, and folded them back on the 25% square, creating one 6-layer half of the final square, and one 2-layer half.

Try it with a piece of paper.

Sorry for a confusing explanation, maybe that fold is familiar to some, but I didn't see it in kaplan or topscore.

Ok, I think I understand now... something like this?

(rough 3 minute sketch in Paint)

lol, I just noticed you drew it.
Oh well.

 

[isd121]

The last 2 folds, the line through the middle occurs with no loss of area.
.___ _ _ _ _
|..............i
|____.......i
|......|......i
|___.|_ _ _i

.___ _ _ _ _
|..............i
|____ .......i
|____|.......i
|____|_ _ _i

WhoooaaaBUNDY thanks for explaning...i got it now.
Flipper405 thanks for the sketch.
🙂