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...they call them "meal assembly kitchens."

(Just a warning, this entire post kind of rambles and goes nowhere...if you mind me wasting your time, stop reading now...)

There is one down the road from me. I have no idea how the hell these places have the chutzpah to do what they do.

Get this...stupid, uppity rich women come in...plop down a bunch of cash...you provide them with pre-measured raw ingredients and a few recipes to follow...THEY do all of the work and cooking...they get to take home like a week's worth of food they will freeze for the ready at home...and then you clean up after them. That's it. That's the entire business.

Being that the price of food is built into the fee...they are essentially paying you to rent your industrial kitchen for a few hours and to clean up after them. And its not like these BMW 7-series driving idiots don't have a gigantic gourmet kitchen inside their house already.

The entire industry makes absolutely NO SENSE at all. Yet every time I drive by the place on the way by my father-in-law's house...the joint is packed.

Rich people are seriously the stupidest ****s that ever lived.

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But what's my point?

It has made me realize something. The key to making money in this new plutocracy-based economy is rather simple. Invest in or come up with idiotic ways and services for rich people to waste their money on. Back in the day, people invested in energy...Microsoft...campanies that made ****. No, not any more. Regular people can't afford **** anymore. the middle class as it was back when we were growing up is dead or dying. $20/hour jobs are now $10/hour careers. The 400 wealthiest people in the US have more wealth than the bottom 50% of US households. Think about that **** for a while.

Well, in this new economy where only the rich and upper-middle class will have appreciable amounts of expendable money...I think it will be wise to figure out how to capitalize on their propensity towards being ****ing *****s. I'm going to start investing in luxury goods. There will no longer be room for "moderate luxury." That's why Ford stopped making Mercurys. Now its just the common Joe car (Ford) and the luxury car (Lincoln).

But something more interesting -- is there a way to capitalize off of this as a pharmacist? Because I could see a bunch of stupid ass rich people paying a premium for some sort of boutique pharmacy something or another that I haven't quite thought up yet. I just need an idea...how do I use my PharmD to exploit the stupidity of rich people...? If the rest of you were smart, you'd be thinking along the same lines.
 
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But something more interesting -- is there a way to capitalize off of this as a pharmacist? Because I could see a bunch of stupid ass rich people paying a premium for some sort of boutique pharmacy something or another that I haven't quite thought up yet. I just need an idea...how do I use my PharmD to exploit the stupidity of rich people...? If the rest of you were smart, you;d be thinking along the same lines.

The whole premise of pharmacy as practiced in the United States is hand-holding for people infantilized by endless regulations, fear-mongering, and one of the primary education systems in the developed world. 😀 There isn't really that much further to fall.
 
Dude, it's so obvious. What do rich people fear most besides poor people? Getting old and bruised egos. Now the trend is a little late but boutique pharmacy that does lifestyle BS is the way to go. Team up with a doctor (or even NP) and cash in. Call it "Mike's Pharmacy of Youth and Dreams."

Want to stop getting old?, HGH!

Loose weight?, hGC!.

Be beautiful again, Botox!?.

Women problems got you down?, well Susan Summers called, Bioidentical estrogen for you!

Wanna snag some more ladies with big pec and feel better while nailing them?, bioidentical testosterone!

Plus you can exploit rich people sub-groups previously untouched. Wanna ride your $10K bike a little faster in your next triathlon to show Jim from accounting whose the boss?, EPO AND our doctor is smart enough to keep you from getting nailed by doping control!

Plus no insurance to worry about!
 
Is this Seattle Sutton or some name like that? If you think about it, it's probably cheaper and healthier in the long run than takeout.

One pharmacist at my last job used that service, but they would always go to restaurants anyway - at least, the ones they hadn't been permanently banned from because of her kids' behavior. 😕 A crying child won't get you banned. A child who deliberately trips a server, or grabs food off other customers' plates and throws it at them will.
 
It's just a trend. I say give it six months...
 
Psh, just sell yourself as a "personal pharmacist." There's nothing rich people like more than personalized and custom service! Rich people always have personal doctors who go with them everywhere and get paid tons of money, not including perks like meeting powerful people and most of your expenses paid.

Then again, you'd have to travel with them everywhere and getting the connections could be tough...
 
It's just a trend. I say give it six months...

It's been around for awhile now to just be a trend. When I lived in a big city, I knew a lot of girls who used them. The idea being that they were too busy working, commuting, jet setting etc. to have time to do something as mudane as cook dinner every night.

Now I live in BFE and I don't think those kinds of business exist around here.
 
Maybe just think of it as Meals on Wheels for able-bodied adults? What business is it of anyone else's, anyway?
 
I have a comment about how the hidden agenda for ENTj and ENFj (same as ENTJ and ENFJ) is to be rich. I'll post it later Mikey.
 
Maybe just think of it as Meals on Wheels for able-bodied adults? What business is it of anyone else's, anyway?

It's no one's business. If adults want to pay for a legally offered service, who cares? And this particular type of service has been around in varying forms for years.

People don't want to do stuff themselves and will pay others to do things. Big deal! Next someone will tell me I'm bad/stupid/whatever for paying someone to clean my house for me. I don't care! I like it that way and I'm contributing to the economy! 😀
 
It's no one's business. If adults want to pay for a legally offered service, who cares? And this particular type of service has been around in varying forms for years.

People don't want to do stuff themselves and will pay others to do things. Big deal! Next someone will tell me I'm bad/stupid/whatever for paying someone to clean my house for me. I don't care! I like it that way and I'm contributing to the economy! 😀

I encourage the existence of stupid and lazy rich people. In the new economy where the wealth class takes 90% of what is created via the combination of their capital and other peoples' labor, without their stupidity there would be no money cycling at all.

Or we could just start unionizing more and taxing them all to hell...and actually demanding a more fair share of profits...then create a middle class that could sustain the entire country by itself...but like that's going to happen...
 
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Okay, in defense of the meal prep places... they're not bad in some cases. It works out to be cheaper than take-out/eating out, and it cuts down on grocery shopping and the large amounts of ingredients you need to buy and the waste you generate (I hate buying a whole thing of cilantro to use 1 tablespoon of leaves, for example). The meals get kind of boring after awhile, but it takes less time, and you can still cook side-dishes, etc.

We don't do it anymore, because the meals are often way too "kid-friendly" for us, and there were too many meals we didn't like/got sick of. But it's no different than take-out. And a lot of places will make the meals for you. With most families having two working adults, these places are worth it (and often used by more than just the rich... if I were rich, I'd just eat out).

Now, to save time, my husband and I often just do our grocery shopping online. I like going to the store better, but when my husband's writing grants and I have three exams in less than a week, we really don't want to waste the time. I can order a week's worth of groceries in 10 minutes and have it on my door before 6 a.m. The few things they don't have can be picked up at the store in a quick trip.
 
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Okay, in defense of the meal prep places... they're not bad in some cases. It works out to be cheaper than take-out/eating out, and it cuts down on grocery shopping and the large amounts of ingredients you need to buy and the waste you generate (I hate buying a whole thing of cilantro to use 1 tablespoon of leaves, for example). The meals get kind of boring after awhile, but it takes less time, and you can still cook side-dishes, etc.

We don't do it anymore, because the meals are often way too "kid-friendly" for us, and there were too many meals we didn't like/got sick of. But it's no different than take-out. And a lot of places will make the meals for you. With most families having two working adults, these places are worth it (and often used by more than just the rich... if I were rich, I'd just eat out).

Now, to save time, my husband and I often just do our grocery shopping online. I like going to the store better, but when my husband's writing grants and I have three exams in less than a week, we really don't want to waste the time. I can order a week's worth of groceries in 10 minutes and have it on my door before 6 a.m. The few things they don't have can be picked up at the store in a quick trip.

I don't have a problem with the meal prep places, or take out, or the McDonald's drive thru.... ETC. 😕
 
I don't have a problem with the meal prep places, or take out, or the McDonald's drive thru.... ETC. 😕

Sorry, All4MyDaughter. I was agreeing with you, but it didn't come out that way. I took out your quote!

Personally, as soon as I can afford it, I'm paying for house-cleaning. It forces you to straighten up every so often, too...
 
Sorry, All4MyDaughter. I was agreeing with you, but it didn't come out that way. I took out your quote!

Personally, as soon as I can afford it, I'm paying for house-cleaning. It forces you to straighten up every so often, too...

No worries. I was just corn-fused. I love having a housekeeper. She comes every two weeks but I may switch to weekly. I wish we had a cook too. It would probably save us money. We go out to eat/get takeout far too often. Since we started remodeling a month ago, I haven't cooked once and don't feel like starting again.
 
No worries. I was just corn-fused. I love having a housekeeper. She comes every two weeks but I may switch to weekly. I wish we had a cook too. It would probably save us money. We go out to eat/get takeout far too often. Since we started remodeling a month ago, I haven't cooked once and don't feel like starting again.

We have a couple of stand-by recipes that help, but we've been eating out far too often also. Having activities at night, working late, being exhausted, etc. are not helpful to cooking.

My one friend used to cook one thing on Sunday and eat it all week. Don't know if she does it anymore with a kid and husband now. It would drive me crazy to do that, though.

A few new recipes might help make it easier to get back to cooking. Some student cookbooks are nice and simple. I like some of the recipes on Real Simple (they have a slow-cooker lasagna recipe that's good). What's really helped us is that we got some Cooking Light cookbooks specifically for quick evening meals, especially since most of the recipes have side dishes, which cuts down on the meal planning a lot. Plus, they're good and relatively healthy, as sometimes all the fat in restaurant/take-out food starts to make me feel icky.
 
This is starting to remind me of "Mongolian Grill", where I will never eat again. What's the benefit of picking your own stuff to grill when you can do the same thing at home without having other peoples' food mixed in with yours since it's all one big grill? At least at Subway, you don't have to cook or pull your items. The sandwich artist does all of it for you and doesn't throw someone else's tuna salad in for ****s and giggles.
 
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I think this is meant for people who have absolutely no idea how to cook!
 
...they call them "meal assembly kitchens."

(Just a warning, this entire post kind of rambles and goes nowhere...if you mind me wasting your time, stop reading now...)

There is one down the road from me. I have no idea how the hell these places have the chutzpah to do what they do.

Get this...stupid, uppity rich women come in...plop down a bunch of cash...you provide them with pre-measured raw ingredients and a few recipes to follow...THEY do all of the work and cooking...they get to take home like a week's worth of food they will freeze for the ready at home...and then you clean up after them. That's it. That's the entire business.

Being that the price of food is built into the fee...they are essentially paying you to rent your industrial kitchen for a few hours and to clean up after them. And its not like these BMW 7-series driving idiots don't have a gigantic gourmet kitchen inside their house already.

The entire industry makes absolutely NO SENSE at all. Yet every time I drive by the place on the way by my father-in-law's house...the joint is packed.

Rich people are seriously the stupidest ****s that ever lived.

You are young, just married and childless so you wouldn't understand. Dream dinners is awesome. My wife and I have been doing it for years. We both work so there is presious little time to whip up good dinners for the kids. When you price it out it is not much more than going out a buying all the stuff yourself. Except with dream dinners you make a mess in someone elses kitchen and take 2 weeks worth of dinners home. The food is really good and there is alot of variety so you are not eating the same stuff over and over.

Personnal chefs are for the BMW 7-series driving idiots and stupid, uppity rich women.
 
Dream Dinners has been around for at least 7 years and still going strong.
I've never heard of that crap in my entire life!
And a tech at work thought I was crazy for installing a dishwasher before a new stove.
 
You are young, just married and childless so you wouldn't understand. Dream dinners is awesome. My wife and I have been doing it for years. We both work so there is presious little time to whip up good dinners for the kids. When you price it out it is not much more than going out a buying all the stuff yourself. Except with dream dinners you make a mess in someone elses kitchen and take 2 weeks worth of dinners home. The food is really good and there is alot of variety so you are not eating the same stuff over and over.

Personnal chefs are for the BMW 7-series driving idiots and stupid, uppity rich women.

I'm not that young, married for 6 years in June, and just not as lazy as you. I work 84 hours a week every other week and still find time to cook **** for myself, clean dishes, and do my own laundry.

But, again, that's all fine and good. Lazy means opportunity for others. The lazier you are, the better it is for the economy. And I need to find a way to capitalize off of lazy. But only rich lazy, otherwise its not worth it...
 
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I've never heard of that crap in my entire life!
And a tech at work thought I was crazy for installing a dishwasher before a new stove.

These are uppity upper middle class people, dear. They invent new ways to be lazy all the time. I completely understand your nescience in this manner. It's hard to stay up to date with the latest in lazy technology and business. I got a dishwasher last month for the first time in my life when I moved into my new loft. I still think I'm living the high life off of that development. I found out what hard water is...and then what Jet Dry is...good times...
 
I'm not that young, married for 6 years in June, and just not as lazy as you. I work 84 hours a week every other week and still find time to cook **** for myself, clean dishes, and do my own laundry.

But, again, that's all fine and good. Lazy means opportunity for others. The lazier you are, the better it is for the economy. And I need to find a way to capitalize off of lazy. But only rich lazy, otherwise its not worth it...

Try having both you and your wife work full time with three kids and then tell me about lazy.

**** I wish all I had to worry about was myself.
 
Try having both you and your wife work full time with three kids and then tell me about lazy.

**** I wish all I had to worry about was myself.

I work 84 hours a week and still find time in those weeks to cook for myself. So unless one of your kids has ****ing leprosy, cry me a river of fake upper-middle-class-struggle tears...because you can't be that damned busy...

It's fake "busy" people like you that will potentially make me enough money to retire early. Just need to figure out how to exploit this...hmmm....
 
And I need to find a way to capitalize off of lazy. But only rich lazy, otherwise its not worth it...

maybe a step away from the drug side of things... but, how about "build your own perfume"

at least for the rich, maybe not the lazy... but the rich have many daughters who need to learn how to act rich and such...

getting ambergris may pose a problem, but i think we do without in the US for the most part.... :idea:
 
I post on another board where many people do not consider Hamburger Helper, spaghetti with store-bought sauce, etc. cooking. Sorry, I do. And WVU, what's it to you about this? I looked at that link, and the menus looked delicious and nutritious, too.
 
I post on another board where many people do not consider Hamburger Helper, spaghetti with store-bought sauce, etc. cooking. Sorry, I do. And WVU, what's it to you about this? I looked at that link, and the menus looked delicious and nutritious, too.

It's that some brilliant SOB convinced people to pay them to essentially do something themselves. Nothing against the business. It is brilliant. Nor am I saying people shouldn't use the service. It helps the economy to spend money. I'm just saying that its a waste of money and that I'm smart enough to see it for what it is...whereas others, clearly, aren't. And, to my point, I'd like to figure out the pharmacy equivalent to this.

Like a "make your own compound" pharmacy...but something that would be legal...

A job where you don't have to hire labor...rather, people pay you for their labor. The type of thing that would make the aforementioned Karl Marx's head explode.
 
It's that some brilliant SOB convinced people to pay them to essentially do something themselves. Nothing against the business. It is brilliant. Nor am I saying people shouldn't use the service. It helps the economy to spend money. I'm just saying that its a waste of money and that I'm smart enough to see it for what it is...whereas others, clearly, aren't. And, to my point, I'd like to figure out the pharmacy equivalent to this.

Like a "make your own compound" pharmacy...but something that would be legal...

A job where you don't have to hire labor...rather, people pay you for their labor. The type of thing that would make the aforementioned Karl Marx's head explode.

That's capitalism. Find something that people want and provide it. You can't be that against capitalism if you're posting about wanting to find a way to jump on this train. Convenience does not equate laziness. Everyone has something in their life which adds convenience to it, even you. You'd be stupid not to. Just because people find it handy, it doesn't mean that they are too lazy to cook their own food. If that were the case, all the people who use this would have starved to death long before they opened.

And if you really think it's only rich people who blow their money on useless **** they don't need, there's no way I can convince you otherwise. But coming from having dated a girl whose family didn't have two dimes to rub together, it's not just the rich who enjoy blowing their money on extravagant **** (nor is it every rich person who does so). It's just that the rich actually have the money to afford it, whereas it never occurs to a portion the people in the middle and lower classes who are spending themselves into oblivion that if they don't have the money to spend on a luxury, that they shouldn't buy it.

I do have to ask though, since several people here have never heard of them and even fewer people seem to know exactly how long they've been around, exactly what "inexplicably well" translates to in terms of hard numbers.
 
I work 84 hours a week and still find time in those weeks to cook for myself. So unless one of your kids has ****ing leprosy, cry me a river of fake upper-middle-class-struggle tears...because you can't be that damned busy...

It's fake "busy" people like you that will potentially make me enough money to retire early. Just need to figure out how to exploit this...hmmm....

HaHaHaHaHaHa!!!! Fake busy...thats awesome! I will remember that every morning when my kids wake me up at 5:30am. Then I have to get them dressed, fed, poopy diapers change five times and off to daycare all the while trying to get myself ready and off to work in retail pharmacy hell. Yep I will just keep telling myself I am only fake busy. Maybe I will try it at work. Hey I am not really bust trying to fill 400 presctiptions with a completly inadequte amount of resourses. I am fake busy so it is okay. You post some funny chit and this is one of the best!

Just for clarification the dinners are not cooked. You still have to cook the meal. Instead of taking an hour or more to prepare and cook a meal you can have it cooked and on the table in under a half hour. When you have three sreaming kids running around every second counts.

When your wife changes her mind and decides she wants kids, and trust me she will change her mind, you will understand. Oh boy will you understand!

I will make you a deal. You trade places with me for a week and see how fake busy you are. Even though I would have to work overnights at CVS I would still be getting the better end of the deal. I can only dream of having a whole week where all I have to do is worry about myself......
 
...because you can't be that damned busy...

It's fake "busy" people like you that will potentially make me enough money to retire early. Just need to figure out how to exploit this...hmmm....

I am still laughing at this! Fake busy and you can't be that busy from the kid who has no children....man that is funny!
 
I think if the package contains everything you need to make the food, then it's not cooking. You're just preparing it.
 
When your wife changes her mind and decides she wants kids, and trust me she will change her mind, you will understand. Oh boy will you understand!

That still doesn't mean he'll have kids, unless she goes off birth control without telling him which is a really terrible thing to do to a spouse, and worse yet, the child(ren).
 
I think if the package contains everything you need to make the food, then it's not cooking. You're just preparing it.

Besides just doing the external heating up of these meals, provided you go to the meal prep place, you actually do do the prep for these dinners, too, just not the same night you cook it. So it's basically like cooking with a sous-chef who cuts up everything and cleans up for you.

Are you saying it's not cooking unless you use a recipe? You do use a recipe at the meal prep place (unless they make them for you). And even if they make the meals for you, usually a lot of the meals still need side dishes, too. So you do end up doing more of what you're calling 'cooking' the night you make the meal.

Lastly, unlike Chef Boyardee, these meals contain raw meat. Unless you want salmonella and more, you cook them.

I've seen recipe books where you can make a month of meals at home in a weekend, but it's a lot of work buying all the ingredients, chopping them up, and then combining all the meals together. Frankly, I'd rather go to a place that has it all there for you.
 
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HaHaHaHaHaHa!!!! Fake busy...thats awesome! I will remember that every morning when my kids wake me up at 5:30am. Then I have to get them dressed, fed, poopy diapers change five times and off to daycare all the while trying to get myself ready and off to work in retail pharmacy hell. Yep I will just keep telling myself I am only fake busy. Maybe I will try it at work. Hey I am not really bust trying to fill 400 presctiptions with a completly inadequte amount of resourses. I am fake busy so it is okay. You post some funny chit and this is one of the best!

Just for clarification the dinners are not cooked. You still have to cook the meal. Instead of taking an hour or more to prepare and cook a meal you can have it cooked and on the table in under a half hour. When you have three sreaming kids running around every second counts.

When your wife changes her mind and decides she wants kids, and trust me she will change her mind, you will understand. Oh boy will you understand!

I will make you a deal. You trade places with me for a week and see how fake busy you are. Even though I would have to work overnights at CVS I would still be getting the better end of the deal. I can only dream of having a whole week where all I have to do is worry about myself......

MountainPharmD, you forget. You're busy because you chose to have kids and put yourself in that position, so no complaining! The world is over-populated as it is, and you should have just adopted. Then you'd never have to take paternity leave, leaving your co-workers in the lurch. 🙄

There's a definite bias from some posters on this board against having children (comments above are basically from other posts on this board). Personally, I wish that everyone who didn't want children end up not having kids (doesn't always happen that way). But I wish these same people would accept that there are those of us who want to have kids, will put up with all the work kids produce, and that society might just need a certain amount of people to reproduce to produce the next generation to care for us when we're old. Granted, a lot of people would have to decide not to have kids before that would be a problem, but it could still become an issue and is an issue in other countries.
 
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HaHaHaHaHaHa!!!! Fake busy...thats awesome! I will remember that every morning when my kids wake me up at 5:30am. Then I have to get them dressed, fed, poopy diapers change five times and off to daycare all the while trying to get myself ready and off to work in retail pharmacy hell. Yep I will just keep telling myself I am only fake busy. Maybe I will try it at work. Hey I am not really bust trying to fill 400 presctiptions with a completly inadequte amount of resourses. I am fake busy so it is okay. You post some funny chit and this is one of the best!

Just for clarification the dinners are not cooked. You still have to cook the meal. Instead of taking an hour or more to prepare and cook a meal you can have it cooked and on the table in under a half hour. When you have three sreaming kids running around every second counts.

When your wife changes her mind and decides she wants kids, and trust me she will change her mind, you will understand. Oh boy will you understand!

I will make you a deal. You trade places with me for a week and see how fake busy you are. Even though I would have to work overnights at CVS I would still be getting the better end of the deal. I can only dream of having a whole week where all I have to do is worry about myself......

Still not impressed. And your hyperbole and over-the-top argument from perceived life experience does not hold up in a true logical argument. When your kid wakes you up at 5AM, I'm already busy with work. Your numbers do not match reality. This "kids" thing does not equate to 44 hours of time needed. And, again, in the weeks when I work 84 hours and you work 40; I still have the time to cook for myself. You should, too.

And my wife doesn't ever want kids. You really don't get it with that one. When I say never, I mean NEVER. If/when I tell her that you doubt her convictions, she might actually post in this thread...even though she's usually read only...

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And I don't see why you are so upset. I am encouraging you to use such services. Its good for the economy.

I might try one of these things once just to see how much of a waste it is. I'd like to know how to get uppity rich people to give me their money.

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Also, who the hell spends more than an hour preparing a meal every night? I must just not be as obsessed with food as everyone else...
 
I think "cooking" involves independently selecting items to combine and then combining it with or without heat and with without a recipe.
 
That's capitalism. Find something that people want and provide it. You can't be that against capitalism if you're posting about wanting to find a way to jump on this train. Convenience does not equate laziness. Everyone has something in their life which adds convenience to it, even you. You'd be stupid not to. Just because people find it handy, it doesn't mean that they are too lazy to cook their own food. If that were the case, all the people who use this would have starved to death long before they opened.

Well, there is a difference between getting people to willingly give you their money for a service and underpaying labor for no reason other than you can because you own all of the economic leverage. I'm not a real socialist. I believe in a highly mixed economy that keeps everything in check. But the US right now is slowly becoming a plutocracy...and nobody seems to care.

And if you really think it's only rich people who blow their money on useless **** they don't need, there's no way I can convince you otherwise. But coming from having dated a girl whose family didn't have two dimes to rub together, it's not just the rich who enjoy blowing their money on extravagant **** (nor is it every rich person who does so). It's just that the rich actually have the money to afford it, whereas it never occurs to a portion the people in the middle and lower classes who are spending themselves into oblivion that if they don't have the money to spend on a luxury, that they shouldn't buy it.[/quote]

This is true. But that everyone blows money isn't what I want to exploit. It's that when rich people blow their money, its can frequently be on much more stupid, useless, and potentially more profitable ways than poorer people. One rich dude blowing money on something is the equivalent of a thousand poor people. Get rich people to blow money on your stupid service or good and you only need to sell a few of them. And with how the economy is heading long term - toward high wealth stratification in favor of the wealth class - I'd just like to capitalize on this fact.


I do have to ask though, since several people here have never heard of them and even fewer people seem to know exactly how long they've been around, exactly what "inexplicably well" translates to in terms of hard numbers.[/QUOTE]

Good question. All I know is that the place is always packed and I see the owner laughing his way to the bank with giant, money filled bags with dollar signs on them. Ok, maybe not the last part, but definitely the first part.
 
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MountainPharmD, you forget. You're busy because you chose to have kids and put yourself in that position, so no complaining! The world is over-populated as it is, and you should have just adopted. Then you'd never have to take paternity leave, leaving your co-workers in the lurch.

All of this is true.


Oh.

There's a definite bias from some posters on this board against having children (comments above are basically from other posts on this board). Personally, I wish that everyone who didn't want children end up not having kids (doesn't always happen that way). But I wish these same people would accept that there are those of us who want to have kids, will put up with all the work kids produce, and that society might just need a certain amount of people to reproduce to produce the next generation to care for us when we're old. Granted, a lot of people would have to decide not to have kids before that would be a problem, but it could still become an issue and is an issue in other countries.

Bull****. The world is already overpopulated. *You* specifically do not need to have a child. Adopt a ****ing Ethiopian. And the reason it makes us irate isn't that you have a child, its because you think you have to right for everyone else to not get to complain about how much work it gives everyone else when you decide to have a child.
 
MountainPharmD, you forget. You're busy because you chose to have kids and put yourself in that position, so no complaining! The world is over-populated as it is, and you should have just adopted. Then you'd never have to take paternity leave, leaving your co-workers in the lurch. 🙄

Did you read any complaining in any of my posts? I mearly was defending my use of Dream Dinners because my wife and I work full time and it is hard to cook good meals for three kids. I have never once complained about it. Just stated a fact that two people working full time with three kids is very busy.
 
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