any info about residencies before going to school

[Mr. E]

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I sent my 1000 to KCUMB, and will start there next year. I want to get into surgery, and I will probably want to get back to Clifornia after school. My problem is that I dont know what the path is from an osteopathic school to a surgery residency in california. how many osteopathic residency surgery spots are open each year in California? Also, if I want to do an allo residency, do I have to take the USMLE to be competetive (or will the COMLEX be OK)? Any help would be great, though Im sure this topic has been posted a million times.

 

[DO_Surgeon]

I sent my 1000 to KCUMB, and will start there next year. I want to get into surgery, and I will probably want to get back to Clifornia after school. My problem is that I dont know what the path is from an osteopathic school to a surgery residency in california. how many osteopathic residency surgery spots are open each year in California? Also, if I want to do an allo residency, do I have to take the USMLE to be competetive (or will the COMLEX be OK)? Any help would be great, though Im sure this topic has been posted a million times.

The path is similar for any state. How many allopathic spots are open for DO's in California, though I am only guessing, I would say few to none. If you wanted to try for an allopathic residency then I would say that the USMLE is a must. There is one DO general surgery residency in CA. It is in only its second year I believe, so it is not well known yet. Arrowhead in Colton, CA. Dont know much about the program other than I believe there is a ton of trauma and they have a large burn center. Go to westernu.edu and look under "opti-west" there is a little more info about the program and hospital. Good luck!

 

[cooldreams]

The path is similar for any state. How many allopathic spots are open for DO's in California, though I am only guessing, I would say few to none. If you wanted to try for an allopathic residency then I would say that the USMLE is a must. There is one DO general surgery residency in CA. It is in only its second year I believe, so it is not well known yet. Arrowhead in Colton, CA. Dont know much about the program other than I believe there is a ton of trauma and they have a large burn center. Go to westernu.edu and look under "opti-west" there is a little more info about the program and hospital. Good luck!

oh shoot what is it, there is a great hospital out in california, highly reviewed, and it is mainly for DOs. i think it is call riverside or something like that. read up on posts. but mainly if there is a DO school in a state, then very likely there are a number of DO affiliated residencies there too.

the other big one is pontiac in michigan or something.

but dont worry too much about trying to find a place right now, you are not even in med sko yet, the times are changing pretty fast too, the DO-bias is quickly fading, there are DOs teaching at Harvard and others, and there are a number of highly reviewed allopathic programs that do or did have DOs in them.

have fun, see ya next fall.

 

[DO_Surgeon]

oh shoot what is it, there is a great hospital out in california, highly reviewed, and it is mainly for DOs. i think it is call riverside or something like that. read up on posts. but mainly if there is a DO school in a state, then very likely there are a number of DO affiliated residencies there too.

the other big one is pontiac in michigan or something.

but dont worry too much about trying to find a place right now, you are not even in med sko yet, the times are changing pretty fast too, the DO-bias is quickly fading, there are DOs teaching at Harvard and others, and there are a number of highly reviewed allopathic programs that do or did have DOs in them.

have fun, see ya next fall.

True the bias is fading fast in all specialties other than surgery. From my understanding the chances of matching into a categorical allopathic general surgery residency still remains very very difficult. In CA the only DO surgery residency is Arrowhead, granted I think Riverside is just down the road but I believe that is where the Loma Linda residents spend most of their time. Ponitac in MI is an Osteopathic teaching hospital with many residencies. ALl I am saying is that if you want to do an allopathic GS residency you have to take the USMLE and be prepared for an uphill battle because many program directors are old school and still have a bias toward DOs.

 

[Mr. E]

Hey thanks for the help. By the way, does anyone know where to get a match list for KCUMB?

 

[cooldreams]

Hey thanks for the help. By the way, does anyone know where to get a match list for KCUMB?

you should have gotten one in the big bunch of papers you got when you interviewed.

 

[cooldreams]

True the bias is fading fast in all specialties other than surgery. From my understanding the chances of matching into a categorical allopathic general surgery residency still remains very very difficult. In CA the only DO surgery residency is Arrowhead, granted I think Riverside is just down the road but I believe that is where the Loma Linda residents spend most of their time. Ponitac in MI is an Osteopathic teaching hospital with many residencies. ALl I am saying is that if you want to do an allopathic GS residency you have to take the USMLE and be prepared for an uphill battle because many program directors are old school and still have a bias toward DOs.

you are making surgery out to be something that is basically out of reach if you are a DO. i think you are grossly wrong here. for example, the number of DOs in ortho is disproportionatly large compared to MDs. of course there are not many DOs in nearly all of the specialties, but you have to remember that there were less than a 10th the number of MDs graduating last year as there were this year.

check this link out, it has a decent list residencies that are DO based... these are things that only DOs can get, after these, you can fight it out with MDs.

http://opportunities.aoa-net.org/cfm/OpSearch.cfm

 

[Mr. E]

you should have gotten one in the big bunch of papers you got when you interviewed.

Was it in that clear plastic folder they gave us? Because I accidentaly left it the room with the pool table. I might call them and ask if I can get another. Thanks

 

[cooldreams]

Was it in that clear plastic folder they gave us? Because I accidentaly left it the room with the pool table. I might call them and ask if I can get another. Thanks

uhh i dont remember where it was 😛

i do know that it was stapled together. 😀 i bet if you asked for another they would give it to you.

 

[DO_Surgeon]

you are making surgery out to be something that is basically out of reach if you are a DO. i think you are grossly wrong here. for example, the number of DOs in ortho is disproportionatly large compared to MDs. of course there are not many DOs in nearly all of the specialties, but you have to remember that there were less than a 10th the number of MDs graduating last year as there were this year.

check this link out, it has a decent list residencies that are DO based... these are things that only DOs can get, after these, you can fight it out with MDs.

http://opportunities.aoa-net.org/cfm/OpSearch.cfm

I am not going to get into a pissing contest with you. I guess speaking from personal experience being that I am a fourth year med student going through the interview process and match right now, I have spoken with many many people about my chances in the ALLOPATHIC (MD) world and what I have said it what they have told me. I am not talking about trying to get into general surgery as a whole, I am refering to getting into an MD residency. Take Good Samaritan Hospital in Phoenix for example, there is roughly a 50/50 mixture of DOs/MDs in all their programs with the exception of General Surgery. Guess how many DOs have gone through their program...None, there has never been a single one. Surgery is not out of reach if you are a DO but it is more difficult to get into the allopathic world PERIOD! Trust me I more than anyone hate the fact, but it is true. There are several DO general surgery residency for DOs, some good some not so good.

 

[Chronotropic]

I am not going to get into a pissing contest with you. I guess speaking from personal experience being that I am a fourth year med student going through the interview process and match right now, I have spoken with many many people about my chances in the ALLOPATHIC (MD) world and what I have said it what they have told me. I am not talking about trying to get into general surgery as a whole, I am refering to getting into an MD residency. Take Good Samaritan Hospital in Phoenix for example, there is roughly a 50/50 mixture of DOs/MDs in all their programs with the exception of General Surgery. Guess how many DOs have gone through their program...None, there has never been a single one. Surgery is not out of reach if you are a DO but it is more difficult to get into the allopathic world PERIOD! Trust me I more than anyone hate the fact, but it is true. There are several DO general surgery residency for DOs, some good some not so good.

I've noticed that as well. I've been told that in my hometown, a DO has never matched into the local general surgery program. They seem to match in every other program though (with the exception of ortho I would assume).

 

[Mr. E]

thanks for the help. Does anyone know where to find a list of osteopahic surgeons in california, or does a list like this even exist. I was looking through the online yellow pages and all the surgeons seemed to be MD.

 

[frank51]

thanks for the help. Does anyone know where to find a list of osteopahic surgeons in california, or does a list like this even exist. I was looking through the online yellow pages and all the surgeons seemed to be MD.

Here, for the state type CA, and then choose a specialty.