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Any ratings on the 6 yr plan for UMKC?
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The programs are really good if you are sure you want to go into medicine and they also allow you to graduate in 6 years, but doing so forces you to take heavy schedules throughout your 2 undergraduate years and all year round ( summer too). TBH, don't pay attention to rankings too much. All medical schools have everything that you need. Just pick a school that is the best fit for you and where you will be happy. Whoever told you that you can't get a difficulty residency because of going to a lower medical school is wrong; it's up to you. Ace the boards, clinical rotations, and classes, and you will get into a good residency.
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I heard a myth that med school is really hard 😀
So you must be crazy to try to pack it and an undergrad degree into 6 years.
But as for the actual question, I agree with the person above.
So you must be crazy to try to pack it and an undergrad degree into 6 years.
But as for the actual question, I agree with the person above.
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I would have to disagree with what indianjatt said, starting from his second sentence to the end. If you advance search UMKC medical school either on SDN or on CollegeConfidential: http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/multiple-degree-programs/10493-umkc-6-year-bs-md-program.html, you'll see, it does not seem to be a good program esp. with respect to getting prestigious residencies (I'm talking about the rule, not the exception).
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OP, do a search in the pre-allo forum: there have been several posters over the years who were in the UMKC program, and unfortunately, they all had negative things to say
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Unfortunately, I agree with the above.
Unless things have changed a lot in the past few years, this school hasn't gotten the greatest reviews. I know people who have gone there, and have yet to see someone wax poetic about this particular school. I don't know exactly what all the reasons are.
I did residency with someone who went to med school there. He was a bright guy, and nice. He ended up with a pretty good residency but I do think that you don't see a whole lot of great residencies out of there, and for whatever reason(s) the school isn't that well thought of. I know that some students from the school mentioned that they have the students working in the clinics with attending doctors from very early on in their training. Apparently they are having them function more like residents, seeing a lot of patients and writing a lot of notes, etc. This sounds good on the surface, but apparently a lot of the attending docs rely on the students a little too much for doing work and perhaps not enough teaching going on. Also, from the other end of the tunnel (physician already in fellowship) I think that this "early clinical experience" thing can be overdone. One needs a certain level of knowledge and background experience before jumping in and trying to treat patients. Pretty much all med schools now have students doing stuff with patients during the first two years, but this is a gradual process. If you throw people in the pool before they can swim, that might not be the best way to creat olympic swimmers...
I think that perhaps their main teaching hospital isn't that well thought of, in terms of teaching and residencies. One always wants to have the opportunity of landing a good residency at the home med school/home hospital. If the hospital doesn't have strong programs (for example, I've been told the internal med program at UMKC isn't very popular and attracts mostly graduates of foreign med schools) then that is one less option for the student as far as residency goes. Then the students have to look to "match out" somewhere else for residency.
I'm not sure if there are other problems at the school, such as administrative issues.
Having said all this, all these early entry programs offer a guaranteed spot in med school. For someone who is sure he/she wants medicine, it might be worth going to one of these to avoid all the premed drama, the pressure to get a high MCAT score, etc. I'm not sure UMKC would be at the top of my list of similar programs, however.
Unless things have changed a lot in the past few years, this school hasn't gotten the greatest reviews. I know people who have gone there, and have yet to see someone wax poetic about this particular school. I don't know exactly what all the reasons are.
I did residency with someone who went to med school there. He was a bright guy, and nice. He ended up with a pretty good residency but I do think that you don't see a whole lot of great residencies out of there, and for whatever reason(s) the school isn't that well thought of. I know that some students from the school mentioned that they have the students working in the clinics with attending doctors from very early on in their training. Apparently they are having them function more like residents, seeing a lot of patients and writing a lot of notes, etc. This sounds good on the surface, but apparently a lot of the attending docs rely on the students a little too much for doing work and perhaps not enough teaching going on. Also, from the other end of the tunnel (physician already in fellowship) I think that this "early clinical experience" thing can be overdone. One needs a certain level of knowledge and background experience before jumping in and trying to treat patients. Pretty much all med schools now have students doing stuff with patients during the first two years, but this is a gradual process. If you throw people in the pool before they can swim, that might not be the best way to creat olympic swimmers...
I think that perhaps their main teaching hospital isn't that well thought of, in terms of teaching and residencies. One always wants to have the opportunity of landing a good residency at the home med school/home hospital. If the hospital doesn't have strong programs (for example, I've been told the internal med program at UMKC isn't very popular and attracts mostly graduates of foreign med schools) then that is one less option for the student as far as residency goes. Then the students have to look to "match out" somewhere else for residency.
I'm not sure if there are other problems at the school, such as administrative issues.
Having said all this, all these early entry programs offer a guaranteed spot in med school. For someone who is sure he/she wants medicine, it might be worth going to one of these to avoid all the premed drama, the pressure to get a high MCAT score, etc. I'm not sure UMKC would be at the top of my list of similar programs, however.
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Interesting. I guess I was thinking of it more in terms of YOU working hard and not prestige. I'm sure if you get all the good grades you can get a good residency, but I didn't know it was that bad as to put very few students in competitive residencies, have weak teaching hospitals and teaching methods.
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Truman is a hole. I definitely would not want to train there even if it was a well-respected program. My grandfather was a professor at UMKC for a good 40 years and has nothing but bad things to say about the administration and the way they run their programs. I understand that their 6-year program has an insane attrition rate, as well. Based on what little I know about it, I wouldn't recommend going there.
