Anybody know of an online organic II that is not killer?

[Poisson]

Hello, I am looking for an online organic chem II, preferably at a lower cost community college, and was wondering if anyone had some recommendations? Also I would prefer to not have a lab component as I already took a 2 credit lab with my organic I that my school says satisfies all of the lab requirements for organic I and II. I was looking into Utah, but the close date has already come up I believe, but it had pretty nice grade cutoffs, about 80 to get an A. I am considering the Drexel online course, but don't know if I would need to be on campus. I saw that New England course or whatever, but with almost the whole course resting on the final, I don't think it would be too wise to take, and is pretty expensive.

Please do get back to me with some tips.

Thanks a bunch,

P

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[deleted357625]

Hello, I am looking for an online organic chem II, preferably at a lower cost community college, and was wondering if anyone had some recommendations? Also I would prefer to not have a lab component as I already took a 2 credit lab with my organic I that my school says satisfies all of the lab requirements for organic I and II. I was looking into Utah, but the close date has already come up I believe, but it had pretty nice grade cutoffs, about 80 to get an A. I am considering the Drexel online course, but don't know if I would need to be on campus. I saw that New England course or whatever, but with almost the whole course resting on the final, I don't think it would be too wise to take, and is pretty expensive.

Please do get back to me with some tips.

Thanks a bunch,

P

if its to satisfy a premed req then that won't work, most or majority of med schools don't accept online taught pre-reqs for med school

 

[Poisson]

if its to satisfy a premed req then that won't work, most or majority of med schools don't accept online taught pre-reqs for med school

Well from what I hear online, there have been many people that took pre-med pre-reqs online that were accepted. My question is, how do they know the course was online, and please name me 2 schools that you know of for sure that do not accept online pre-reqs. Why would they have a med school, university of new england for instance that has all the pre-med pre-reqs online if schools didn't accept them? Lots of schools have courses with an online section, but 5 other sections have non-online, so how do they know? Its not like you have online on your transcript. Should it matter anyways? We are talking about basic classes here and some people applying to school have masters degrees in engineering, and don't have time or interest to take a basic class during the day, when 99% of their coursework has been in a classroom.

 

[LifeTake2]

Well from what I hear online, there have been many people that took pre-med pre-reqs online that were accepted. My question is, how do they know the course was online, and please name me 2 schools that you know of for sure that do not accept online pre-reqs. Why would they have a med school, university of new england for instance that has all the pre-med pre-reqs online if schools didn't accept them? Lots of schools have courses with an online section, but 5 other sections have non-online, so how do they know? Its not like you have online on your transcript. Should it matter anyways? We are talking about basic classes here and some people applying to school have masters degrees in engineering, and don't have time or interest to take a basic class during the day, when 99% of their coursework has been in a classroom.

Don't ask for advice and then shoot the messenger.

The fact is, if they know most reputable medical schools won't take an online for the science pre-reqs, especially organic.

Secondly, like it or not but Organic II is not supposed to be easy; it is supposed to be hard as h*ll.

Lastly, I'd be very wary about anyone that told you that your lab will count for both semesters if they didn't work for a medical school admissions office.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Well from what I hear online, there have been many people that took pre-med pre-reqs online that were accepted. My question is, how do they know the course was online, and please name me 2 schools that you know of for sure that do not accept online pre-reqs. Why would they have a med school, university of new england for instance that has all the pre-med pre-reqs online if schools didn't accept them? Lots of schools have courses with an online section, but 5 other sections have non-online, so how do they know? Its not like you have online on your transcript. Should it matter anyways? We are talking about basic classes here and some people applying to school have masters degrees in engineering, and don't have time or interest to take a basic class during the day, when 99% of their coursework has been in a classroom.

Despite what a few anecdotes will say, you're shotting yourself in the foot by taking orgo 2 online, furthermore you also need a lab section. I think you should just sign up orgo 2 at a CC near you and stick it out.

If not, UNECOM has it online and some mostly mid and low tier DO schools will accept it. However on the individual basis you might want to just call schools and see their opinion, but I can tell you right now that it will be a strike against you even if the school does accept it.

 

[hmania]

o.chem II is already difficult face-to-face. I would say that online would be much more difficult.

 

[Rezonance]

Not sure about what course to take, I do know U of I has an online course with videos of a Professor teaching the course


But if you want to learn about OCehm II Go on google and type in organic chem freelance, he is the best at solidifying your knowledge for O-Chem, and its freeee!

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

o.chem II is already difficult face-to-face. I would say that online would be much more difficult.

Not really... organic chemistry was all about material that you easily can grasp yourself. Furthermore the way I studied for orgo was outlines, if I had outlines out when I had my tests I'd have easily made A+'s without breaking a sweat. But either way, organic chemistry wasn't really that hard, it was fun to be completely honest.

 

[hmania]

Not really... organic chemistry was all about material that you easily can grasp yourself. Furthermore the way I studied for orgo was outlines, if I had outlines out when I had my tests I'd have easily made A+'s without breaking a sweat. But either way, organic chemistry wasn't really that hard, it was fun to be completely honest.

beg to differ. Even though it is "easy" to grasp, there are many mechanisms and shortcuts that are sometimes left out of online courses. To OP, is the online orgo offering online exams or in class exams?

 

[WorldChanger36]

Well from what I hear online, there have been many people that took pre-med pre-reqs online that were accepted. My question is, how do they know the course was online, and please name me 2 schools that you know of for sure that do not accept online pre-reqs. Why would they have a med school, university of new england for instance that has all the pre-med pre-reqs online if schools didn't accept them? Lots of schools have courses with an online section, but 5 other sections have non-online, so how do they know? Its not like you have online on your transcript. Should it matter anyways? We are talking about basic classes here and some people applying to school have masters degrees in engineering, and don't have time or interest to take a basic class during the day, when 99% of their coursework has been in a classroom.

Many school list on the transcript if the class was online or not, some don't and this is how some people get away with it. If you know for a fact that the school will not note it is online on your transcript then your good. Often what they are worried about is a for profit degree mill pumping up this classes and some times legit universities will pump out an online class that does not cover the course material. This give you an unfair advantage and prevent the school from making a fair comparison of you with not online applicants. The wisest way to go is to take it live as I would say most school do list the class was not live in some way.

UNE offer online pre-reqs because they take online pre req credits..... As long as it is theirs...

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

beg to differ. Even though it is "easy" to grasp, there are many mechanisms and shortcuts that are sometimes left out of online courses. To OP, is the online orgo offering online exams or in class exams?

Doesn't matter, you'll forget the majority of them and the courses tech different mechanisms anyway most of the time. I'm studying for the mcat right now and I've seen plenty of mechanisms and reactions on it that I've never seen in my class and I attend a top 50? school.


Honestly it isn't the material that is the problem here. But rather the fact that online classes have a stigma attached to them. The only part I would ever have a problem with is an online lab as opposed to an in person lab.

 

[hmania]

Doesn't matter, you'll forget the majority of them and the courses tech different mechanisms anyway most of the time. I'm studying for the mcat right now and I've seen plenty of mechanisms and reactions on it that I've never seen in my class and I attend a top 50? school.


Honestly it isn't the material that is the problem here. But rather the fact that online classes have a stigma attached to them. The only part I would ever have a problem with is an online lab as opposed to an in person lab.

such thing as an online organic lab?

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

such thing as an online organic lab?

Yes, it's basically you taking chemicals and doing reactions on a program. I think the program should be used for all chemistry classes as a basic introduction to the weeks lab. But yes, I think that the hands on component is very important, if not the only point as you're not going to remember the tests.

 

[BK2681]

I'd look at Oregon State University E-Campus. My friend took the Gen. Chem. online there and it showed up on the transcript as if she had taken it on campus at OSU. I don't think the lab is included, but you could easily take that at a CC.

http://ecampus.oregonstate.edu/online-degrees/undergraduate/online-organic-chemistry/

 

[deleted92121]

Took O-Chem II through UNE which falls under their SOM. I thought it was tough but ultimately I thought it prepared me well. I really learned a lot due to being so self-directed. I also called the schools I am interested in before signing up for it and all but one said they would accept it.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I'd look at Oregon State University E-Campus. My friend took the Gen. Chem. online there and it showed up on the transcript as if she had taken it on campus at OSU. I don't think the lab is included, but you could easily take that at a CC.

http://ecampus.oregonstate.edu/online-degrees/undergraduate/online-organic-chemistry/

If that site is up to date, then Dr. Myles and Dr. Walker will be instructing. Both are known for being fair graders (I think Dr. Walker has a cut-off of like 86% for an A-).

I am taking 331 in person right now with Dr. Myles. Multiple choice tests - pretty easy so far. Class average on the first two exams for Dr. Myles CH331 was 75% (I got a 92 and an 84).

I can't vouch for the quality of the online course, but I can vouch for the quality of the instructors. I have seen slightly above average students score As in Dr. Walker's O-chem series.

 

[Chocolaterocks]

hi- need advice on an on- line organic chemistry ii lab. Anyone have any suggestions for the current summer of what is available?
Thanks so much.

 

[AlabamaPop]

If you already have 2 credits of lab, it is unnecessary to take more.

Schools require 8 semester hours of Organic Chemistry that already includes labs.

Organic 1 Lec: 3 credits
Organic 1 Lab: 2 credits
Organic 2 Lec: 3 credits'
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Total: 8 semester credit hours

 

[surfguy84]

if its to satisfy a premed req then that won't work, most or majority of med schools don't accept online taught pre-reqs for med school

This actually isn't true. I've contacted ~25 schools (DO and MD) and 80-90% WILL accept online pre-reqs, including labs.

 

[Chocolaterocks]

Hi I see there is the UNE lab is there anything else? Thanks so much.
Anyone who has taken the UNE lab find it okay? thank you.

 

[deleted92121]

This actually isn't true. I've contacted ~25 schools (DO and MD) and 80-90% WILL accept online pre-reqs, including labs.

This has been my experience as well. And really it makes sense. You don't even have to go to class for many medical schools and can sit in your apartment watching lecture videos at 1.5 playback speed. How is this any different from taking online courses?