Anybody want to chime in on UPMC???

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I'm interviewing at this program very soon....anything i should know that may not be on their website (which i've researched already) and how good a program is it????


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If you like critical care and sick patients, you will probably enjoy it. Their regional program is also strong, although I am not sure about resident exposure.
 
The location is a problem only if you must be on the coast or in a big city. Pittsburgh has great amenities for its size. It has a solid food/drink scene and very good arts for its size. Sports are big in the city even if you're not a Steelers fan. Cost of living is excellent (better than any East Coast areas from my experience).

All this from someone who has no vested interested in UPMC's anesthesiology program. Went to med school in Pittsburgh and hope to return some day.
 
I'm 6 months out from graduating...so take my input with a grain of salt. super program...you can get as much or as little out as you put into it.

some thoughts from another UPMC thread.
 
The worst part is that you have to travel to ~7 different hospitals during residency. Otherwise, from my experience and research, it's an all-around really great program. In their intern year, they get a month of regional experience where a lot of residents told me they got really close or met their regional numbers.
 
so post interview, i like UPMC more than i thought i would. But from what i hear they only go down to 25 on their rank list to fill all 20 spots, so im not sure how likely i am to match there....wouldn't mind ending up there though.
 
so post interview, i like UPMC more than i thought i would. But from what i hear they only go down to 25 on their rank list to fill all 20 spots, so im not sure how likely i am to match there....wouldn't mind ending up there though.

That is weird.. If that's the case why would they need to interview so many people.
 
That is weird.. If that's the case why would they need to interview so many people.

i shouldn't say only, i think the appropiate word is typically...they typically go down to about 25-30 to fill all their spots...that's what i heard, can't attest to how true that is but i wouldn't be surprise.
 
I would argue having to fly to the coast is a problem, as is having an airport that is not a major transport hub with many direct flight options. I like to travel. And I'm not a big fan of the cold and gloom and it is cold there 5 months of the year. I believe Pittsburgh also has the fewest sunny days of any major US city. If it wasn't the least it was bottom 2. There are sunny day statistics available on some govt website that I reviewed.
I looked at a job there. It seemed like a good fit. The people were nice, they were totally gutting a place for a fancy new children's hospital, decent income potential and lifestyle, but the location was a deal breaker for me.
 
I would argue having to fly to the coast is a problem, as is having an airport that is not a major transport hub with many direct flight options. I like to travel. And I'm not a big fan of the cold and gloom and it is cold there 5 months of the year. I believe Pittsburgh also has the fewest sunny days of any major US city. If it wasn't the least it was bottom 2. There are sunny day statistics available on some govt website that I reviewed.
I looked at a job there. It seemed like a good fit. The people were nice, they were totally gutting a place for a fancy new children's hospital, decent income potential and lifestyle, but the location was a deal breaker for me.


The sunny day data looks bad on paper but honestly I don't remember it being horrible, and I lived there for 20+ years. If you travel frequently to a coast I could see that being an issue, but how often does one travel during residency? I live on one of the Great Lakes now, and Pittsburgh has nothing on this for cold and gloom. 😉 Arts, culture, sports and dining to rival any large metro area.

And that new Children's Hospital is outstanding. If the pay in the greater PGH area was better I'd go back tomorrow.
 
If the pay in the greater PGH area was better I'd go back tomorrow.

And that's the big problem. UPMC pays poorly (and isn't hiring, anyway), AHN and VA aren't hiring at the moment (AFAIK), and most of the other stuff around the area is Northstar.

When UPMC finally falls apart, Pittsburgh could be a great market. And I think that day is coming - Romoff and his minions are always doing crazy things like claiming in court that UPMC has no employees, so I figure sooner or later they're going to offend someone with some real clout. Until then, though, job opportunities in Pittsburgh are pretty limited.
 
UPMC has been described as a whole bunch of shell corporations (and that no one, per se, works for UPMC).

I'm sure that's what they had in mind when they said that. Which, IMHO, says everything you need to know about the character of UPMC's leadership.
 
I'm sure that's what they had in mind when they said that. Which, IMHO, says everything you need to know about the character of UPMC's leadership.

FWIW, does this matter to prospective residents who are looking for quality of clinical training and fellowship placement? Seems like UPMC still has a great rep for both, this would be a bigger issue for those looking for jobs in the Pittsburgh area.
 
FWIW, does this matter to prospective residents who are looking for quality of clinical training and fellowship placement? Seems like UPMC still has a great rep for both, this would be a bigger issue for those looking for jobs in the Pittsburgh area.

Right, that's what I'm saying. Residency lets you network with the local market. Unless you have family ties to the area, the Pittsburgh job market is bad enough that I wouldn't recommend focusing on it.
 
Who is the department chair now at UPMC? Last I heard there was an interim who was a vascular surgeon, but supposedly they had someone from a Boston program pegged?

UPMC's got a great alumni network though, so I think you'd be fine if you had to go broader than just the local area.
 
The location thing if often overblown.

I have to disagree. After living 25 years in very warm climates in big cities, then moving to a very cold, midwest town with very little sun for medical school, location jumped very close to the top of my list for residency considerations. I was downright miserable third year with snow shoveling and -50 windchill temperatures. I would venture to guess there are plenty of forces acting on a persons wellbeing in residency and <40 degrees and overcast 2/3 of the year is a direct assault to those of us used to 70 degrees on Christmas. Then add in that most people find jobs around where they train.
 
I would argue having to fly to the coast is a problem, as is having an airport that is not a major transport hub with many direct flight options. I like to travel. And I'm not a big fan of the cold and gloom and it is cold there 5 months of the year. I believe Pittsburgh also has the fewest sunny days of any major US city. If it wasn't the least it was bottom 2. There are sunny day statistics available on some govt website that I reviewed.
I looked at a job there. It seemed like a good fit. The people were nice, they were totally gutting a place for a fancy new children's hospital, decent income potential and lifestyle, but the location was a deal breaker for me.

I love Pittsburgh for reasons mentioned elsewhere in this thread, but this post is entirely accurate. As GomerBlog advises, don't worry too much about the weather. It's going to be 72 degrees and fluorescent wherever you match. I'd recommend finding an apartment with an attached garage when you arrive so you don't have to shovel snow at butt-oclock in the morning.
The city tends to be more popular for those with families than those who are single and still swinging. Lifestyle is good.

UPMC was extensively discussed on here last year, so I won't go into great detail, but to respond to a few things:
The new Children's Hospital is here, everyone loves rotating through it (except the AGH residents).
The job market looks extremely tight here right now, odds are pretty good you'll have to move again after fellowship or residency. I wish someone had told me to think about this a little harder when I was looking at residencies.
There is no problem with regional numbers for anyone - I got them about two weeks into my first regional rotation. I'm unclear why we have this reputation since our regional program is strong.
You work a lot harder (and get scutted a decent bit more) than they make out on the interviews, but I suspect that is universally true.
I can't imagine I was ranked that highly here as I have no real connection, but I still matched
Yes, we rotate through a gajillion hospitals. It pissed me off last year - I think it's really hard when you don't have your feet firmly on the ground in the specialty itself, but I've gotten over it.
It's a big residency in all the classic ways.
We still have an interim department chair. We can't find a chair, which I think has a lot to do with UPMC +/- qualified people available +/- very high standards.

Like all residencies, some things suck and some things are great, and you have no real way of knowing about them unless you actually go there.
 
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