Anyone Take The Psychopharmacology Examination for Psychologists (PEP)?

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I think I'm finally going to bite the bullet and take the exam in early '15. I have heard a range of study timelines for the exam, so I thought I'd ask to see if anyone has any tips/feedback about the process.

PEP exam for those unfamiliar with it.

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I think I'm finally going to bite the bullet and take the exam in early '15. I have heard a range of study timelines for the exam, so I thought I'd ask to see if anyone has any tips/feedback about the process.

PEP exam for those unfamiliar with it.
If you don't mind my asking, are you practicing in a state where you can obtain Rx privileges or are you taking this for another reason? I have recently begun seeking out more education on psychopharmacology myself because of lack of psychiatry and other docs wanting questions answered.
 
I'm considering taking the course just for informational purposes at some point, assuming I can possibly either save up the money or get some sort of institutional financial support (not optimistic about that). However, unless the VA goes the route of the DoD, I'm not really geographically close enough to either LA or NM to realistically consider practicing.

I do know some folks who've taken it, though, T4C; I'll shoot them emails and ask how long they prepped.
 
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If you don't mind my asking, are you practicing in a state where you can obtain Rx privileges or are you taking this for another reason?

No, I'm practicing in a non-Rx'ing state.

My research requires me to be very knowledgeable about medications, so that was my primary reason for pursuing the training; the coursework and applied training has also helped my clinical work. I'm looking to get licensed so I have something to fall back on, but I'm pretty sure I don't want to just do med checks all day (which is what most positions want these days).

I do know some folks who've taken it, though, T4C; I'll shoot them emails and ask how long they prepped.

That'd be great!
 
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I took the PEP last year after completing the post-doctoral course work at New Mexico State University. As the fail rate is 78 percent, the exam is very tough so you have to study for around one year a couple of hours a day. I took the EPPP a year before I completed the PEP and the PEP is like the EPPP on steroids.

However, it is SO worth it. Insurance companies and Medicaid New Mexico just raised our already high rates another 7.8 percent in August, so I am now prescribing and very happy with the tons of new opportunities and drastically increased income it has brought as compared to my V.A. GS-13 position. If you PM me with you e-mail address and contact information, I will be glad to help you out.

by the way, there is a semi-useful PEP study guide put out by the American Psychological Association http://www.apapracticecentral.org/ce/courses/exam-content.pdf
 
I took it about 2 years ago and passed first try. Study time is hard to judge . I put a few books like MGH review into my kindle and had text to speech read to me on my commute(s), which averaged 3 hrs/day, 7days/week. Took about one practice exam a week until I understood not only the answer, but logic behind the questioning style.

Like any other academic thing, practice exams are key. But you have to be careful, the APA's practice exam is like $75 per administration. I easily spent over a grand on it.

Hoover has a review course, as does Alliant. You can get CE credits for either. Marlin's course is in Chicago, I think. Alliant's is online. Both are worth it for the study materials.
 
So I am writing this as a public service as there is little information out there and I so wished I had more info when I started. I passed the PEP yesterday with a 73% and my program was FDU. I also attended the Chicago Prep Course with Marlin Hoover and purchased the online version of the Alliant prep course with John Bolter. From my experience:

First, if you are deciding whether or not to become a prescribing psychologists jump over the MS program and consider the low pass rates for the PEP (rumor is 53% pass rate per administration and somewhere around 66% of folks who persist) which is the gate-keeper restricting access to the profession. Are you capable of passing and willing to spend copious amounts of time studying? If not, reconsider. Otherwise, the MS program is worth it by itself for the CE's, knowledge, and another degree on the wall...but no one will tell you that passing the program does NOT guarantee passing the PEP.

I actually believe I learned as much or more during my PEP prep than my program. First I attended the Chicago course and it was WELL worth it - if nothing else just for the study materials. I used his slides as a jumping off point and this is really where I got my structure/organization for studying. Also, I bought and went through the John Bolter prep course that is available for purchase online. This was ok, I would do it again but I'm not sure how much I learned. Then I read the Mark Muse book - Clinical Psychopharmacology for Psychologists which is good, not great, but worth it for the practice test. Also, trust me on this, rent/buy the psychiatry board prep book put out by Mass Gen called Psychiatry. This is amazingly helpful and succinct. Also, use the test questions they have in the back for another practice test. It is really VERY similar. Finally, I took the APA's online practice test at the beginning and toward the end of my study (I never passed it). Remember how with the EPPP, the practice tests were always harder than the real thing? I would say the real thing was just as hard - not a lick easier - which make the practice tests a good simulation.

My strategy was to write down EVERYTHING I didn't know off the top of my head and over the months learn it and ended the last few weeks by systematically memorizing every bit of it. Then I looked back at all of the disorders that I didn't have a ton of info on and googled them learning the distinguishing symptoms as well that might come up in a case scenario.

I wanted to move through my studying as quick as possible and so I went down to 3 days at work and studied full days 2 days/week, and a few hours on the weekend for 3+ months. I believe this is equivalent to the one hour/day for a year method others use. I shared the resources I used above and I believe I needed every bit of it. As the test answers are weighed differently you could pass or fail in the 69%-72% range and so shoot for 110 correct=73.3%. This is, thank goodness, what I got. I needed every bit of my study time. Maybe you have a psychopharm background or if you are a neuropsychologist you ABSOLUTELY have an advantage, but I want others to know that this is a very difficult test and you MUST study for it, in my opinion. Now that I am on the other side, I'm glad that this test restricts access to this very important profession. For those already in the program or studying, the PEP is the rate-limiting factor for prescribing. : )

Good luck all!
 
That was super useful. Not surprisingly life/work got in the way of my initial plan to take in '15. Shocker.

I'm going through ABBP now, but once my cases are done, I'll be shifting over to study for the PEP. I'd like to give myself a solid 6mon, so i'm looking end of '16 or beginning of '17.

I finished my class training and practica a number of years ago, so taking a review class seems like the best approach. I use a lot of the general pharma knowledge in day-to-day clinical work and my research, but that's much more niche and not psychiatric cases.

I haven't looked at the nitty-gritty pharmacology stuff since my last pharma publication 1+ yr ago, but i do decent amount of pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics in my case consultations.

I have done dept funding left over for the fiscal year, soni'll look into buying those reference materials. @PEPExamExperience, do you have a link for the Chicago review course?

Is the test more technical/research based or more applied clinical work? You mentioned memorizing, which got me thinking about memorizing dosing ranges of every SSRI, which is different than thinking about vignettes/case examples.

Just when I thought I'd finally sharpen up my golf game...Ugh...a never ending climb it seems.
 
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It’s a great resource. Highly recommended!


 
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