Anything new concerning student loan consolidation?

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Last I heard, Bush was going to try and make into law that all consolidated loans are held at a variable rate instead of fixed rate next year (good news for banks, bad news for students). Is anything else going on as well?
 
Shouldnt happen for this coming cycle which means if you are graduating this year or next year you should be able to consoilidate before that rule goes into effect.

The only other issue about consolidation at this point is that rates WILL go up this July. Some say they will at a minimum double. So if you can, consolidate now.
 
trouta said:
The only other issue about consolidation at this point is that rates WILL go up this July. Some say they will at a minimum double.

I agree they'll go up, but doubling would be pretty shocking.
 
This is a stupid question, but when you guys talk about consolidating, are you talking student loans only? I would like to throw the credit card in there too if I could.
 
southerndoc said:
It's not Bush, but Congress who is considering this.

Last I heard it was still just being tossed around.

It definitely won't affect the class of 2005 people. However, student loan consolidation was NEVER meant to be used the way it currently is, so it's only a matter of time before the government drops the hammer and shuts the fixed rate consolidation system down. It'll probably happen in the next few years. So if you're an '06 or '07 graduate and you have direct stafford loans, then it's worth looking into consolidating what you can right now.
 
Sledge2005 said:
It definitely won't affect the class of 2005 people. However, student loan consolidation was NEVER meant to be used the way it currently is, so it's only a matter of time before the government drops the hammer and shuts the fixed rate consolidation system down. It'll probably happen in the next few years. So if you're an '06 or '07 graduate and you have direct stafford loans, then it's worth looking into consolidating what you can right now.
We 2004 graduates and our study loan officers thought the change was going to happen summer of 2005. I'm glad it's not, because this means more people can take advantage of locking in their loans. Even if the interest rate does go up for the next consolidation cycle, it will still be lower than what the interest rate is projected to be 10 years from now.
 
The Fed has raised rates seven times this year, each 1/4 point. Expect a 2% -3% raise in consolidation rates this July with government agencies (Sallie May), etc. Further, the government's plan would most likely only apply to these government agencies, meaning private lenders may be able to set rates at their discretion. Currently, consolidation rates are based primarily upon the AVERAGE rate of the loans you will be consolidating. If you have 8-10 groups of loans when you graduate, and 1/2 of them are above 5%, and 1/2 of them are below 3%, they will still average out to 4% before consolidation. If you are still in school, you may be able to consolidate the loans you currently have (and lock them at 2-4%) and then leverage them after graduation to offset the expected higher rates of your future loans by reconsolidating.
 
Sledge2005 said:
It definitely won't affect the class of 2005 people. However, student loan consolidation was NEVER meant to be used the way it currently is, so it's only a matter of time before the government drops the hammer and shuts the fixed rate consolidation system down. It'll probably happen in the next few years. So if you're an '06 or '07 graduate and you have direct stafford loans, then it's worth looking into consolidating what you can right now.

I disagree. This bill has been dead in the water for quite a while now. You can almost guarantee that the classes of 2006-2007 are safe.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=121216&highlight=consolidation
 
DireWolf said:
I disagree. This bill has been dead in the water for quite a while now. You can almost guarantee that the classes of 2006-2007 are safe.

In the aggregate, that's a relatively large guarantee offer. . .
 
DireWolf said:
I disagree. This bill has been dead in the water for quite a while now. You can almost guarantee that the classes of 2006-2007 are safe.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=121216&highlight=consolidation

Aside from the fact that your thread is several months old, I don't think some random SDN poster with only 10+ posts is a super credible source. And they're especially not when it seems like from his post that he's just speculating!

Here's an article published recently that details what is really going on. It's from the chronicle of higher education:

Combatants Alter Tactics in Fight Over Student-Loan Consolidation
With interest rates expected to rise in July, loan industry pushes for
change this year

By STEPHEN BURD

Washington

A looming increase in the interest rates that borrowers must pay on
federal student loans is forcing the combatants in a fierce fight on
Capitol Hill to reconsider their tactics.

The battle, which has been raging in Congress for the past two years, is
over the future of a government program that allows borrowers to
refinance their student loans. No other student-aid issue has been as
contentious as lawmakers consider legislation to extend the Higher
Education Act, the law that governs most federal student-aid programs.

On one side of the debate are the Republican leaders of the U.S. House
of Representatives Committee on Education and the Workforce. They have
been pushing a proposal that would change how the interest rate is
calculated for student-loan borrowers who consolidate their debt. The
government, they say, has made the federal loan-consolidation program
too attractive to borrowers -- and too costly to taxpayers -- by
allowing borrowers to lock in low, fixed interest rates for up to 30
years. Instead, the legislators have pushed a proposal, championed by
the student-loan industry, that would shift the rate to one that varies
from year to year based on market conditions but is capped at 8.25 percent.

On the other side are the panel's top Democrats, as well as student
advocates and companies that specialize in refinancing loans. They argue
that Congress should not make it harder for borrowers to repay their
loans when so many students are buried in debt.

The debate has been occurring at a time when the consolidation program
is more popular than ever. In order to lock in interest rates of about
3.5 percent for the life of their loans and save thousands of dollars
each, borrowers consolidated about $44-billion worth of loans in 2004,
almost four times as much as in 2000.

But in July, interest rates on student loans are expected to rise for
the first time in five years. The Congressional Budget Office projects
that the rate will jump by at least two percentage points, to about 5.5
percent, and will continue to grow for the foreseeable future. That
change could significantly alter the terms of the debate. "This is no
longer going to be such a black-and-white issue," says John Dean, a
lawyer for the Consumer Bankers Association, which supports a shift to a
variable rate.

Rising Rates

As rates rise, it will become increasingly difficult for Democrats and
their supporters to argue solely for the fixed-rate option. They
acknowledge that borrowers who wish to consolidate their loans will be
worse off if they have no other choice but to lock in higher interest rates.

With that in mind, student advocates and consolidation-company officials
are shifting their stance. Having the government offer variable-rate
loans is not a bad idea, they say, as long as it also maintains a
fixed-rate option for borrowers. "People should be able to choose the
option they want," says Alik Widge, an advocate for the National
Association of Graduate-Professional Students. "Chances are they will be
able to figure out which one fits their needs better."

At the same time, the prospect of rising rates threatens to undercut the
Republicans' central argument for making the shift: that it is too
expensive for the government to continue to offer fixed-rate
consolidation loans. As interest rates grow, the savings that the
government would see from shifting to a variable rate diminish. That is
because the government makes up the difference to lenders when interest
rates exceed those which borrowers have locked in. As more and more
borrowers lock in higher rates, the amount that the government must make
up for these loans shrinks.

As a result, loan-industry officials are scrambling to get the proposal
on a faster-moving vehicle than the reauthorization bill, which is
unlikely to be completed this year. Lenders hope that lawmakers will
consider making the change as part of "budget reconciliation"
legislation -- a measure in which legislators propose cuts in federal
mandatory programs, such as Medicare, Social Security, and student
loans, to reduce the government's budget deficit -- if Congress moves
forward with that process this year.

"Given the availability of large savings from moving to a variable rate
as soon as possible," Mr. Dean says, "we would hope that Congress would
explore that option."

Seeking a Compromise

With the dispute in Congress over the consolidation program heating up,
some lawmakers and college groups have offered proposals designed to
find a compromise. (See table below.)

The one with most promise has been floated by Rep. Thomas E. Petri, a
Wisconsin Republican. Under that plan, borrowers would be given the
option of consolidating with a fixed or a variable rate, capped at 8.25
percent. The fixed rate would be indexed to a longer-term Treasury
instrument that would produce a higher rate than borrowers pay now. In
fact, those who refinance would almost always pay less if they chose a
variable rate.

Borrowers are in the best position to know what type of plan works for
them, Mr. Petri says. He wants to model the consolidation program on the
mortgage market, where borrowers must pay a little more to lock in an
interest rate and have the advantage of knowing what their monthly
payments will be.

"I believe that most citizens would be comfortable having similar
choices when refinancing their student-loan obligations," he says.

The plan has won the backing of some of the major loan-consolidation
companies. Those officials, who until now fought almost exclusively to
save the fixed rate, acknowledge that their position has evolved. Given
the "economic conditions we are likely to see in the future, we think
the opportunity to choose between fixed and variable consolidation-loan
interest rates should be given to borrowers," says Jim Newell, vice
president of government relations for Collegiate Funding Services.

Members of groups representing graduate and professional students are
also likely to support the congressman's plans, as they have made a
similar proposal.

Mr. Petri says that both Republican and Democratic lawmakers have
expressed interest in his plan. With the change in the way the fixed
rate is calculated, and another provision that eliminates some "excess
earnings" of lenders, Mr. Petri says his plan would produce as much, or
even more, savings for the government than the provision in the House
bill. The Congressional Budget Office has not yet estimated the cost of
Mr. Petri's plan.

But requiring borrowers to pay more for a fixed-rate loan may be a deal
killer for groups that lobby for undergraduate students.

Kate L. Rube, higher-education adviser to the State Public Interest
Research Groups, says her organization supports giving borrowers who
seek to refinance the choice of a fixed or a variable rate, but doesn't
want to see the terms become less generous. "We shouldn't go backwards
in terms of the benefits borrowers are receiving now," she says.

The student groups would also like to see the cap on variable-rate loans
reduced to 6.8 percent.

Still, student advocates' primary goal is to preserve the fixed-rate
option, says Jasmine Harris, the legislative director for the United
States Student Association: "It's a great benefit for borrowers."
 
Here's the second half of the same article


Time Running Out

For loan-industry officials there is no more important goal this year
than to get Congress to shift how the rate is calculated.

They have argued that the billions of dollars that the government
provides in subsidies each year to keep the costs of fixed-rate
consolidation loans cheaper for borrowers would be better spent giving
more benefits to current and future students.

But they also have another motive. Sallie Mae and other large lenders
have lost a significant share of the refinancing market to consolidation
companies. In large part, they are seeking to have lawmakers prevent
borrowers from getting fixed-rate consolidation loans so that
refinancing would be less appealing. They hope that the change would
force these companies out of the market.

The lenders know that they have to act fast. The Congressional Budget
Office has estimated that shifting to a variable rate this year would
save the government $2-billion. But as rates rise, the amount of savings
plummets. By 2008 the government would actually lose money by making the
change.

Loan-industry officials are trying to persuade legislators to look to
the consolidation program for savings as part of the
budget-reconciliation process. If that were to happen, colleges and
students would benefit also, they say.

That is because, they say, the leaders of the House education committee
are depending on savings from the loan programs to offset the costs to
the government of other proposals in their reauthorization bill that
would help students, such as an increase in the amount they are allowed
to borrow in their first two years of college and a cut in the
origination fees they must pay to obtain their loans.

If lawmakers move ahead with reconciliation this year, but don't look to
the consolidation program for savings, they will have to make other cuts
to the loan programs. That could leave the education committee's leaders
empty-handed.

"Anything that can be done to minimize the impact of reconciliation on
reauthorization needs to be explored," says Mr. Dean, of the Consumer
Bankers Association.

But opponents of the proposed change say the issue should be dealt with
in reauthorization, where lawmakers have more time to engage in
substantive policy discussions.

"Policy considerations are ideally the basis for making program changes,
as opposed to the need to cut programs for budgetary reasons," says Mr.
Newell, of Collegiate Funding Services. "The results are always better
for students."

ALTERNATIVE APPROACHES TO REFINANCING STUDENT LOANS

Under current law, student-loan borrowers get a fixed interest rate
based on the weighted average of the rates of their combined loans,
rounded to the nearest eighth of a point and capped at 8.25 percent. HR
609, a bill being considered by the U.S. House of Representatives, would
no longer allow borrowers to lock in low interest rates for up to 30
years, as they can now. Instead they would be charged a rate that varies
each year according to market conditions. The cap would remain at 8.25
percent.

Supporters What it would do Rationale Outlook

1. Helping those most in need U.S. Rep. Robert E. Andrews, a New Jersey
Democrat Would require most borrowers who consolidate their loans to pay
a variable rate capped at 8.25 percent. Borrowers with higher debt
burdens -- those putting at least 8 percent of their annual income into
loan repayment -- would get a lower variable rate and a reduced cap. For
example, the rate cap would be lowered to 5 percent for borrowers who
could show that their monthly payments exceeded 10 percent of their
total income, and to 3 percent for those whose monthly payments exceeded
12 percent. The proposal is designed to deal with one of the main
criticisms of the loan-consolidation program: Billions of dollars in
loan subsidies have been spent to help doctors, lawyers, and other
affluent professionals refinance their loans at the government's
expense. Under Mr. Andrews's plan, the greatest benefit would go to
borrowers most in need of the help. The plan has failed to pick up
steam; most student-aid experts believe that it would be too complicated
to carry out. It is unclear, for instance, how lenders and the
government would be able to verify borrowers' claims about their
debt-to-income ratios.

2. Lowering the cap Lobbying groups like the American Association of
State Colleges and Universities and the National Association of Student
Financial Aid Administrators Would require borrowers who refinance their
loans to pay a variable rate. However, the rate cap would be lowered to
6.8 percent. With interest rates on the rise, the plan would allow
borrowers to avoid having to lock in a high rate. Throughout much of the
1990s, borrowers who refinanced in the guaranteed-student-loan program
were required to pay a fixed interest rate as high as 9 percent,
supporters of the proposal say. Not good. The proposal is unlikely to
win support from student groups, which want borrowers to continue to
have the option of a fixed rate. And Republican leaders of the House
Committee on Education and the Workforce don't like the plan because of
its cost. The government is required to make up the difference to
lenders when interest rates exceed the cap. Therefore, the lower the cap
is set, the higher the price tag for the U.S. Treasury.

3. Giving borrowers a choice U.S. Rep. Thomas E. Petri, a Wisconsin
Republican Would give borrowers the option of consolidating with a fixed
or a variable rate, capped at 8.25 percent. The fixed rate would be
indexed to a longer-term Treasury instrument that would produce a higher
rate than borrowers pay now -- in fact, borrowers would almost always
pay less if they chose the variable rate. Supporters of the proposal say
it would be a mistake to get rid of the fixed-rate option altogether.
Many borrowers, who like the predictability of knowing what their
monthly payments will be, would prefer to lock in an interest rate, even
if it is costlier for them to do so. As in the mortgage market,
borrowers would be asked to pay a little more to take advantage of this
benefit. More promising than the other two alternatives. Groups
representing graduate and professional students have offered similar
proposals. Other student groups and Democratic leaders of the House
education committee support the idea of giving borrowers options. But
they don't want to see the fixed-rate option become less generous than
it is now. They would also push lawmakers to lower the cap on
variable-rate loans to 6.8 percent.

SOURCE: Chronicle reporting
 
Hercules said:
I agree they'll go up, but doubling would be pretty shocking.

Get ready to be shocked! If you're currently graduating and lock in now, you can get a 2.875% loan which will decrease to 1.625% if you get all the borrower benefits. The interest rate will likely be increased by at least 1.5% (it's estimated now to be increased by 1.69%). So, you're definitely looking at an almost doubling of the interest you'll be paying, and possibly a more then doubling of it.
 
You should have followed the link in the thread and would also visit the senate homepage and see the most up-to-date actions regarding this bill.

My assumptions were based on the fact that nothing has been done with it in two years.

In reading your article it seems that this topic might be revisited by the senate in near future. However, even if legislation is brought forth and signed into law later this year, the class of 2006 would still be exempt under a grace period. Maybe the class of 2007 would be the earliest to feel the effects of any changes.
 
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