AOA derm competitiveness
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Don't really know that much about it but apparently many of these residencies spots require you to first complete a prior residency in FM or IM (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/osteopathic-derm.894404/). So I don't really blame people for not wanting to do two residencies but given how many people would love to get into derm, I am still a little surprised at the unfilled spots.
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All AOA derm positions are either in the process of transitioning to ACGME and NRMP or closing. Wouldn't count on this route, though it's worth a shot for what few programs remain I guess.
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I'm also a bit shocked that each year a certain number of Derm spots go unfilled, even if it is just against the initial match.
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Yea but even up until now...
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Same is true for 95% of ACGME Derm positions too...
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Are you sure about that? I was under the impression that they let MD folks know in 4th year. Still though, it's worse for us. Imagine you took step 1 and do well enough to maybe get a decent ACGME IM residency. However, you'd rather do AOA derm. We have to go into an AOA internship, then apply derm. What happens if we dont get in then? Other than missing out on that ACGME IM spot that would then be lost. lol. It's a risky move. I'm at wits end about what to do about that.
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Hmm... you might be right about that because I've seen on many MD listing Preliminary year then Derm for the place they matched (maybe that's what a pre-match is?). And i'm not sure, but my follow-up question for that is what do the MD students who do preliminary year end up doing too if they don't match? Can't you just apply again for ACGME IM? Worst case scenario being that you have to repeat your preliminary year? Not sure.
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The hard thing about is..if you dont match (DO) and you need to do something else as a backup, youre only an intern at a program for 1 year, right? So, most IM programs you apply to are 3 years. You apply and your first year is as an intern, but you're already in those last two years. In our situation, we aren't guaranteed a freely open 2nd year IM spot, just because we are interns..so where does that take us? Do have to scramble to get into a 2nd yr IM spot, or do we have to reapply completely and do intern year again...very confusing and difficult, TBH..there's no real reason they can't just make all the programs categorical and allow us to know in 4th year..it would make everything logistically so much more practical.
