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Yesterday, I received this email:
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Obviously, there are limitations to self-reported data. And obviously, the higher-ups are going to recruit their friends in high-paying positions to drive up the averages. But at least they're paying attention to us.
 
I didn’t get this email because I’m too much in debt and don’t make enough money to be subscribed to any of these organizations. I would like to help my profession but I have to help my family first.

Because of the above the results will be skewed no matter what.
 
I didn’t get this email because I’m too much in debt and don’t make enough money to be subscribed to any of these organizations. I would like to help my profession but I have to help my family first.

Because of the above the results will be skewed no matter what.
Unless they changed something, APMA membership for a 1st year attending was really cheap for me, on the order of a few hundo. Say what you will about them, there were some very useful resources about learning billing, which is why I'm on their mailing list still.

Past year 1, I opted not to renew, for personal reasons more complicated than I didn't feel like paying the dues.
 
I didn’t get this email because I’m too much in debt and don’t make enough money to be subscribed to any of these organizations. I would like to help my profession but I have to help my family first.

Because of the above the results will be skewed no matter what.
Take care of you , as old timer they don’t give a ..
 
I despise what the APMA did with the new schools, but they are the only organization fighting for podiatry when it comes to reimbursement. Not paying a membership or giving them a yearly donation is short sighted.
I am short sighted... encourage others to do the same. 🙂

(was in APMA and local versions back when it was required for ACFAS and until 4 new schools in under 20 years...
There is good reason ACFAS broke off from them, and we'll never get paid more with huge oversaturation APMA creates.
There is so much more value from ACFAS with quality education, journal, content. Money is finite.)

National APMA provides nothing but lower income and a garbage journal and meetings (unless you're a pod dean or supergroup owner, in which case they're grrrrr-eat). That's too bad, because some local APMA state ones try to do good things.

...APMA had done these surveys in the past. There are basically the ACFAS income surveys (good), APMA (fair), and PM News surveys (poor). MGMA is fine if you're a non-govt hospital pod, but worthless to 90% of DPMs.
 
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I despise what the APMA did with the new schools, but they are the only organization fighting for podiatry when it comes to reimbursement. Not paying a membership or giving them a yearly donation is short sighted.

Well call me Mr. Magoo

I pay board dues. That’s it. No other memberships.
 
I despise what the APMA did with the new schools, but they are the only organization fighting for podiatry when it comes to reimbursement. Not paying a membership or giving them a yearly donation is short sighted.

That wasn't APMA.

CPME accredits the schools.

APMA often finds out after the fact that a new school intends to open. And their "job" should be to support everyone entering the profession.
 
Yesterday, I received this email:
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Obviously, there are limitations to self-reported data. And obviously, the higher-ups are going to recruit their friends in high-paying positions to drive up the averages. But at least they're paying attention to us.
One of the benefits of this is the transparency it promotes. Those entering practice can see the averages and it's broken down by years in practice. The data can create a starting point for more podiatrists to negotiate their salaries.
 
One of the benefits of this is the transparency it promotes. Those entering practice can see the averages and it's broken down by years in practice. The data can create a starting point for more podiatrists to negotiate their salaries.
The problem is that the only people filling these surveys out are going to be the private practice owners and DPMs who sold out to private equity supergroups. A lot of young podiatrists are disenchanted right now and maybe a little embarrassed they are working as an associate making 100K with a bonus structure which is unattainable. If everyone in the profession did this survey there would be a significant salary disparity. But people won't and the numbers will continue to be skewed and not reflect the current state of private practice podiatry which the majority of the profession works in.
 
That wasn't APMA.

CPME accredits the schools.

APMA often finds out after the fact that a new school intends to open. And their "job" should be to support everyone entering the profession.
How dumb do you think people are?

APMA and CPME have the same street address... they are the same umbrella.
 
not to change the point of this thread but it’s absolutely hilarious we started two new podiatry schools when we’re this oversaturated
 
How dumb do you think people are?

APMA and CPME have the same street address... they are the same umbrella.
Pretty dumb if they think APMA controls CPME. Listen into to a public BOT meeting sometime. You'll find out.
 
The problem is that the only people filling these surveys out are going to be the private practice owners and DPMs who sold out to private equity supergroups. A lot of young podiatrists are disenchanted right now and maybe a little embarrassed they are working as an associate making 100K with a bonus structure which is unattainable. If everyone in the profession did this survey there would be a significant salary disparity. But people won't and the numbers will continue to be skewed and not reflect the current state of private practice podiatry which the majority of the profession works in.
You can find a problem with any dataset. But this is APMA actually listening to you. How else would you suggest they get the numbers you're looking for?
 
Podiatry salaries are already available. I worked at a unionized health center. Management always had salary data for each provider group: MD/DO, DMD, DPM etc. I believe the data was based on other large health center salaries, FQHC data and department of labor statistics. Also, I wonder how accurate self-reported data really is.
 
If they stratify out how much are the dpms earning who are <5 years out vs those 10-20 years in practice, and associate vs owner, hours worked, other variables, this can be extremely useful for estimating what our wage curve looks like.

If on the other hand, they spin these results to paint an unrealistic picture of the profession for prehealth students, this is going to be just more sound and fury.
 
hey all – APMA is running this initiative in collaboration with us at Marit Health. I’m the physician founder of Marit, and our goal is to build a more complete picture of physician compensation that reflects all kinds of practice models.

Podiatry is one of the few specialties where total comp can range so widely - from ~$175k to over $1M depending on practice setup (see screenshot below) - so we’re looking forward to digging into those drivers, and bring transparency to the variance across practice types, yrs of experience, etc. to support the profession use it to push for greater transparency and higher reimbursements. If you have any feedback on what kind of cuts would be most helpful in the final report, do let me know

So far, approximately 400 Podiatrists have already contributed with a wide mix of early and late stage Podiatrists across various practice types and regions. If you’d like to add your data and be part of this, here’s the link: https://apma.joinmarit.com/

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hey all – APMA is running this initiative in collaboration with us at Marit Health. I’m the physician founder of Marit, and our goal is to build a more complete picture of physician compensation that reflects all kinds of practice models.

Podiatry is one of the few specialties where total comp can range so widely - from ~$175k to over $1M depending on practice setup (see screenshot below) - so we’re looking forward to digging into those drivers, and bring transparency to the variance across practice types, yrs of experience, etc. to support the profession use it to push for greater transparency and higher reimbursements. If you have any feedback on what kind of cuts would be most helpful in the final report, do let me know

So far, approximately 400 Podiatrists have already contributed with a wide mix of early and late stage Podiatrists across various practice types and regions. If you’d like to add your data and be part of this, here’s the link: https://apma.joinmarit.com/

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Awesome. Appreciate the effort.
 
No surprise that podiatry has the highest variance compared to all specialties. $265K is way off for average total comp. It's more like sub $200K and of course we're paid the lowest in almost all specialties.
 
I think the problem we see is basically all hospital employed pods are there or over, especially with years of experience. We almost need to split it into hospital employed average versus group/private average. Although, you'd have PP owners bringing up that median there too. I don't think 265k is far off for non-associates employed in larger groups and/or hospital. And again, I'm not saying there's an abundance of these jobs open at any given time... that's a different issue entirely.
 
I’m at a tribal hospital system in the southwest and my base is 265k. I do get some bonus opportunities and loan repayment stuff as well.
 
Rural bumps up the salaries and so does these high cost of living areas. But the $80-120k jobs are very real. A lot of my residency class took those jobs. How many people are entering those salaries?
 
You can see the current breakdown by practice types, yrs of experience, compensation model, region, etc. here on the trends page (PS: requires login). This is total comp, so it includes all forms income, including partnership distributions

Still early days, so there will be some bias - but as more people contribute, hopefully we will see robust trends
 
It really does come down to the model. It's that simple. All of us hospital employed pods are going to be 350 to 500. Private practice is a whole different animal. You're still going to have that inter-specialty variability that just does not exist for other specialties.
 
who are you encouraging to share their salary as a podiatrist (foot and ankle surgeon) compared to just podiatrist? Just keep it as one imo.
 
If they stratify out how much are the dpms earning who are <5 years out vs those 10-20 years in practice, and associate vs owner, hours worked, other variables, this can be extremely useful for estimating what our wage curve looks like.

If on the other hand, they spin these results to paint an unrealistic picture of the profession for prehealth students, this is going to be just more sound and fury.
yes - this will be one of the cuts we'd like to look into. Here's a view of how new grads vs mid-career salaries vary. Once again, Podiatry tops the list 🙂

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I think the problem we see is basically all hospital employed pods are there or over, especially with years of experience. We almost need to split it into hospital employed average versus group/private average. Although, you'd have PP owners bringing up that median there too. I don't think 265k is far off for non-associates employed in larger groups and/or hospital. And again, I'm not saying there's an abundance of these jobs open at any given time... that's a different issue entirely.
I agree 100%... but over half of podiatrists are associates.
And we are not just talking new grads... 30 year old DPMs are associates, 50yo ones, even age 70+ ones.
The majority of podiatrists are associates (normal PP or supergroup associates).
 
Call me a skeptic but these organizations doing these surveys aren’t to help us but to help the recruiting push. “Look you can make $300k in 7 years!”
Clearly APMA has an axe to grind, but @Hoos2004 appears to be making some legitimate inquiries, or at least as legit as for the other physician specialties they're reporting on.

There are other salient factors to job satisfaction that the survey is not designed to capture: are you in your desired practice location? are you doing meaningful work or are you just lobstering?
 
Clearly APMA has an axe to grind, but @Hoos2004 appears to be making some legitimate inquiries, or at least as legit as for the other physician specialties they're reporting on.

There are other salient factors to job satisfaction that the survey is not designed to capture: are you in your desired practice location? are you doing meaningful work or are you just lobstering?
Other doctors (or the real ones) CANNOT truly relate/appreciate the plight of the podiatrist.

Oh why don't you just move to where your wife's parents are from and get a job? Just call the local hospitals in the beach town you want to live.
 
You can find a problem with any dataset. But this is APMA actually listening to you. How else would you suggest they get the numbers you're looking for?
This survey means something if more than 50% of practicing podiatrists respond. I will fill my survey out. I just did one for ACFAS. If it gets less than 1000 participants its of no value. The data needs to also be broken between hospital DPMs vs private practice DPMs (owners vs associates) and should be broken down per years of practice, etc.

Hopefully we get some real data
 
The only data that matters to me is the number of opportunities I have outside of my current below average hospital job (230k - 260k). Not long ago an admin told me "you have raised our quality of care for podiatry problems well beyond our expectations, but unfortunately your production can be quickly replaced." That's when I knew I was truly stuck. My guess is she gets lots of emails from podiatrists looking for jobs. I also realized I would not be getting the NP or MAs I was asking for. It's not all doom and gloom I like the job, but wow I have no ability to negotiate. I'll try again in a couple years.
 
The only data that matters to me is the number of opportunities I have outside of my current below average hospital job (230k - 260k). Not long ago an admin told me "you have raised our quality of care for podiatry problems well beyond our expectations, but unfortunately your production can be quickly replaced." That's when I knew I was truly stuck. My guess is she gets lots of emails from podiatrists looking for jobs. I also realized I would not be getting the NP or MAs I was asking for. It's not all doom and gloom I like the job, but wow I have no ability to negotiate. I'll try again in a couple years.
Accurate. Hospital employed podiatrists have little to no wiggle room to negotiate because there is always another podiatrist emailing admin/HR saying how they are the next great fellowship trained DPM and the hospital NEEDS them. The profession is saturated. These are the facts. The hospital knows they can replace any DPM very quickly. Any DPM employed by a hospital knows they can be replaced.

I've been successful with negotiating a higher salary, a 2nd nurse and even an APP for my practice. But it's only because I do so much volume it makes it hard for them to say no without being cruel.

I'm on pace to do 13K RVUs this year. So yeah if you work like a dog you might have some negotiating power. But if you are doing average volume I would say forget about negotiating anything
 
Podiatry jobs motto: Go rural or go home (especially if home is rural)
 
At least I can still talk shop as the apparently 2nd widest pay variance specialty on the list. The podeyetry job market alliance continues.

Interesting data breakouts. Some others I would suggest would be time at current job and even number of jobs total. Maybe some kind of “how long did it take you to get a job you don’t anticipate leaving?” I’ve got a decent number of friends who were on associate job #3 by year 4-5 out, and starting over usually costs money.
 
The only data that matters to me is the number of opportunities I have outside of my current below average hospital job (230k - 260k). Not long ago an admin told me "you have raised our quality of care for podiatry problems well beyond our expectations, but unfortunately your production can be quickly replaced." That's when I knew I was truly stuck. My guess is she gets lots of emails from podiatrists looking for jobs. I also realized I would not be getting the NP or MAs I was asking for. It's not all doom and gloom I like the job, but wow I have no ability to negotiate. I'll try again in a couple years.
Ding Ding Ding! If I were advising my children on fields they are interested in starting a career in, I would tell them to look at the job market. Anyone can look for jobs and see what sort of availability there is. This is a much better indicator than self reported (inaccurate) data from likely 5-10%? of the profession.
 
Good Afternoon Everyone, I'd like to introduce myself and join this conversation. My name is Sam Dupre and I am the new Director of Strategic Analytics for APMA. In short, I am the person who will be managing and using this data within APMA and I want to put myself out into this conversation to hopefully address some of the concerns mentioned herein.

I'll keep this brief for now, but this is my background. I am new to the podiatric world, but I have ~20 years of experience with quantitative analytics in everything from public health to demographics, and in data disclosure protection of sensitive data.

I'll be addressing individual posts in this chat, but I'd like to address a few common narratives that I am seeing here. These statements are my own.

1) We need the lowest paying responses! There seems to be a perception from some that APMA wants to end up with a compensation number that is inaccurately high for ulterior motives. All I can do is promise that is not the case and make a plea to you all. I hear the narratives about positions with extremely low salaries in comparison to the existing compensation statistics for the profession. WE NEED THAT DATA. Without responses from your colleagues who are in those positions, the data that we have to work with will never reflect those perspectives. PLEASE convince any colleagues you know whom are in those lower paying roles to respond to the survey so that we can end up with results that truly reflect the profession.

2) What is the point of this survey? The profession is changing. Podiatrists have questioned the validity and representativeness of compensation figures which currently exist. People have asked us questions about on-call volume, changes in practice settings, and many other similar questions. These are critical points and very valid concerns. Without data of this granularity, from a truly representative swathe of the profession, we will never be able to answer these questions. I'm not a podiatrist, I'm a data guy. I am fascinated by these questions and I want to know which concerns from APMA's critics are backed by data so that we can support podiatrists with the information that they need and deserve. The existing data does not meet my standards and the standards of our team and so we NEED to fix that. THAT is why we are doing this survey, not from some desire to push any particular narrative.

3) Why did we do [X] in designing the survey? (e.g., having 2 specific categories for type of podiatrist instead of broader choices or a single "podiatrist" class). A lot comes down to response privacy. Feel free to check my publication history, but I have worked extensively on data disclosure avoidance and respondent privacy. We recognize that there is a diversity in roles within the profession, but every disaggregation makes respondents less anonymous. This is incredibly important to Marit and I want you to be comfortable giving responses without being at risk of being identified. Between Marit's methods and APMA's, the privacy protection thresholds that are being applied to the data by Marit before the anonymized data is given to us are stronger than what the IRS and the US Census Bureau have historically used in many of their public data releases. Many of these design choices were made to give us granularity where it is most important, at the cost of some less-critical areas, so that anonymity is preserved.

4) On that topic, I've seen some worries about the geographic questions, with people worried that they would be identified. We have standards specifically to prevent that. Marit and APMA have negotiated privacy mechanisms where respondent location will be abstracted and grouped with other respondents to a point where they are not identifiable before that data is passed to APMA. APMA will never see figures for geographic areas that are small enough to not meet thresholds for anonymity. Instead, for example, people from Mansfield, Ohio might get grouped with those from Columbus to give aggregated numbers if there aren't enough distinct podiatrists there OR if those podiatrists are too different (and thus individually identifiable).

Thank you for your time and apologies for the long post. PLEASE respond to the survey and encourage your colleagues who feel that existing compensation figures don't match their reality to fill out the survey. Please feel free to send me a direct message if you have any questions, comments, or if there are entirely unrelated data questions that you have that you would like APMA to look into at some point.

Warm regards,
Sam
 
Good Afternoon Everyone, I'd like to introduce myself and join this conversation. My name is Sam Dupre and I am the new Director of Strategic Analytics for APMA. In short, I am the person who will be managing and using this data within APMA and I want to put myself out into this conversation to hopefully address some of the concerns mentioned herein.

I'll keep this brief for now, but this is my background. I am new to the podiatric world, but I have ~20 years of experience with quantitative analytics in everything from public health to demographics, and in data disclosure protection of sensitive data.

I'll be addressing individual posts in this chat, but I'd like to address a few common narratives that I am seeing here. These statements are my own.

1) We need the lowest paying responses! There seems to be a perception from some that APMA wants to end up with a compensation number that is inaccurately high for ulterior motives. All I can do is promise that is not the case and make a plea to you all. I hear the narratives about positions with extremely low salaries in comparison to the existing compensation statistics for the profession. WE NEED THAT DATA. Without responses from your colleagues who are in those positions, the data that we have to work with will never reflect those perspectives. PLEASE convince any colleagues you know whom are in those lower paying roles to respond to the survey so that we can end up with results that truly reflect the profession.

2) What is the point of this survey? The profession is changing. Podiatrists have questioned the validity and representativeness of compensation figures which currently exist. People have asked us questions about on-call volume, changes in practice settings, and many other similar questions. These are critical points and very valid concerns. Without data of this granularity, from a truly representative swathe of the profession, we will never be able to answer these questions. I'm not a podiatrist, I'm a data guy. I am fascinated by these questions and I want to know which concerns from APMA's critics are backed by data so that we can support podiatrists with the information that they need and deserve. The existing data does not meet my standards and the standards of our team and so we NEED to fix that. THAT is why we are doing this survey, not from some desire to push any particular narrative.

3) Why did we do [X] in designing the survey? (e.g., having 2 specific categories for type of podiatrist instead of broader choices or a single "podiatrist" class). A lot comes down to response privacy. Feel free to check my publication history, but I have worked extensively on data disclosure avoidance and respondent privacy. We recognize that there is a diversity in roles within the profession, but every disaggregation makes respondents less anonymous. This is incredibly important to Marit and I want you to be comfortable giving responses without being at risk of being identified. Between Marit's methods and APMA's, the privacy protection thresholds that are being applied to the data by Marit before the anonymized data is given to us are stronger than what the IRS and the US Census Bureau have historically used in many of their public data releases. Many of these design choices were made to give us granularity where it is most important, at the cost of some less-critical areas, so that anonymity is preserved.

4) On that topic, I've seen some worries about the geographic questions, with people worried that they would be identified. We have standards specifically to prevent that. Marit and APMA have negotiated privacy mechanisms where respondent location will be abstracted and grouped with other respondents to a point where they are not identifiable before that data is passed to APMA. APMA will never see figures for geographic areas that are small enough to not meet thresholds for anonymity. Instead, for example, people from Mansfield, Ohio might get grouped with those from Columbus to give aggregated numbers if there aren't enough distinct podiatrists there OR if those podiatrists are too different (and thus individually identifiable).

Thank you for your time and apologies for the long post. PLEASE respond to the survey and encourage your colleagues who feel that existing compensation figures don't match their reality to fill out the survey. Please feel free to send me a direct message if you have any questions, comments, or if there are entirely unrelated data questions that you have that you would like APMA to look into at some point.

Warm regards,
Sam
Thanks for your work here. Welcome to podiatry lol. This survey will not work because the profession is broken. Simple as that. You cannot understand without being a podiatrist.
 
Yesterday, I received this email:
View attachment 408779

Obviously, there are limitations to self-reported data. And obviously, the higher-ups are going to recruit their friends in high-paying positions to drive up the averages. But at least they're paying attention to us.
Hi, thank you for starting this thread. I put a longer introduction reply in this thread, but I am the new Director of Strategic Analytics at APMA and I am the main person who will be using this data. This is my background.

"Obviously, there are limitations to self-reported data. And obviously, the higher-ups are going to recruit their friends in high-paying positions to drive up the averages. But at least they're paying attention to us."

PLEASE help us do the opposite. You feel that much of the existing compensation estimates don't reflect the actual figures; I hear your concern. Driving up the averages to ignore part of the profession would make this data largely useless to me. Instead, help me figure out exactly where those lower paying positions are. Who is in them? What are the characteristics of those roles?

I'm certain that you have intimate knowledge of those dynamics, but we NEED evidence of these things in order to help serve the full podiatric population, not just some particular privileged subset.

So, please do the opposite. Help us by driving up responses among those who you feel have been typically ignored in these calculations.
Warmly,
Sam Dupre
 
I didn’t get this email because I’m too much in debt and don’t make enough money to be subscribed to any of these organizations. I would like to help my profession but I have to help my family first.

Because of the above the results will be skewed no matter what.
Hi, I put a longer introduction reply in this thread, but I am the new Director of Strategic Analytics at APMA and I am the main person who will be using this data.

You're absolutely right, we need people like yourself to help us convince non-members to take this survey as APMA likely does not have their contact information. The results will be skewed towards members. We have a number of post-survey analytics planned to assess and adjust for that bias, BUT it would be a huge help if you can help convince your non-member colleagues to respond so that APMA can help serve the profession as a whole, not just our members.
 
Accurate. Hospital employed podiatrists have little to no wiggle room to negotiate because there is always another podiatrist emailing admin/HR saying how they are the next great fellowship trained DPM and the hospital NEEDS them. The profession is saturated. These are the facts. The hospital knows they can replace any DPM very quickly. Any DPM employed by a hospital knows they can be replaced.

I've been successful with negotiating a higher salary, a 2nd nurse and even an APP for my practice. But it's only because I do so much volume it makes it hard for them to say no without being cruel.

I'm on pace to do 13K RVUs this year. So yeah if you work like a dog you might have some negotiating power. But if you are doing average volume I would say forget about negotiating anything
God damn how much do you work
 
I am short sighted... encourage others to do the same. 🙂

(was in APMA and local versions back when it was required for ACFAS and until 4 new schools in under 20 years...
There is good reason ACFAS broke off from them, and we'll never get paid more with huge oversaturation APMA creates.
There is so much more value from ACFAS with quality education, journal, content. Money is finite.)

National APMA provides nothing but lower income and a garbage journal and meetings (unless you're a pod dean or supergroup owner, in which case they're grrrrr-eat). That's too bad, because some local APMA state ones try to do good things.

...APMA had done these surveys in the past. There are basically the ACFAS income surveys (good), APMA (fair), and PM News surveys (poor). MGMA is fine if you're a non-govt hospital pod, but worthless to 90% of DPMs.
Hi, I put a longer introduction reply in this thread, but I am the new Director of Strategic Analytics at APMA and I am the main person who will be using this data.

Thank you for your feedback! APMA is trying to collect substantially better (and more representative) data in this survey than may have been collected in the past. Hopefully we are successful, but if you feel there are still things that this survey misses, please tell me. Send me a DM if you are willing, I'd love to hear your input and concerns on future data collection or any follow-up.
Warmly,
Sam
 
Hi, I put a longer introduction reply in this thread, but I am the new Director of Strategic Analytics at APMA and I am the main person who will be using this data.

Thank you for your feedback! APMA is trying to collect substantially better (and more representative) data in this survey than may have been collected in the past. Hopefully we are successful, but if you feel there are still things that this survey misses, please tell me. Send me a DM if you are willing, I'd love to hear your input and concerns on future data collection or any follow-up.
Warmly,
Sam
Mr Dupre please email the schools; they have a complete alumni list. I will share any link with my direct friend group. My advice is to share with schools for alumni email blast.

For SDN members. If you are rural, put your nearest metro, so it can be truly anonymous. FYI.

My suggestion is to also differentiate. Employee Docs vs Employee docs. I already am an early contributor to the salary website.
 
Well call me Mr. Magoo

I pay board dues. That’s it. No other memberships.
Hi, I put a longer introduction reply in this thread, but I am the new Director of Strategic Analytics at APMA and I am the main person who will be using this data.

Fair enough. Not what APMA would prefer of course, but completely respect your decision and stance. As a non-member, APMA isn't necessarily able to reach you in these sorts of data collection. I don't want this survey to only reflect members. To be truly useful in helping APMA support the profession as a whole, please encourage your non-member colleagues to respond as well?
Warmly,
Sam
 
Mr Dupre please email the schools; they have a complete alumni list. I will share any link with my direct friend group. My advice is to share with schools for alumni email blast.

For SDN members. If you are rural, put your nearest metro, so it can be truly anonymous. FYI.
It can’t be truly anonymous for certain states. Even if you put a metro. some states have like 30 podiatrists bro. Especially people who are putting cities and then “government” like yeah you work for a VA in that city and there’s three employed podiatrists there so…

I filled it out for what it’s worth. But yeah I almost didn’t want to because it isn’t as anonymous as you’d think. Everyone knows everyone in podiatry

But I don’t think it matters if someone knows I make $200k, who cares. Just enter the data. And apma better not screw us with this since we literally entered all our salaries with our npi numbers
 
Mr Dupre please email the schools; they have a complete alumni list. I will share any link with my direct friend group. My advice is to share with schools for alumni email blast.

For SDN members. If you are rural, put your nearest metro, so it can be truly anonymous. FYI.
Thank you for your suggestion! Dr. Dupre to be precise, but not a big deal at all, Sam is fine too. This is a great suggestion. I'll make sure that doing so is on the comms team's radar.
Warmly,
Sam
 
It can’t be truly anonymous for certain states. Even if you put a metro. some states have like 30 podiatrists bro. Especially people who are putting cities and then “government” like yeah you work for a VA in that city and there’s three employed podiatrists there so…

I filled it out for what it’s worth. But yeah I almost didn’t want to because it isn’t as anonymous as you’d think. Everyone knows everyone in podiatry

But I don’t think it matters if someone knows I make $200k, who cares. Just enter the data. And apma better not screw us with this since we literally entered all our salaries with our npi numbers
Fair enough, I hear your point. It's a balance. All we can do is to do everything we can to make things as close to anonymous as possible, going by statistically supported thresholds and standards. Hopefully we are able to show that we are doing everything we can to protect your privacy while collecting the data needed to support the profession.

I can guarantee you though, even though NPI is collected as part of the mechanisms to prevent artificial data submission, APMA will NEVER see any identifiers (e.g., NPI) in the data we receive from Marit.

As a sidenote, I'd just like to reiterate... please don't hesitate to reach out to me if you have any concerns about podiatric analytics or data. My mandate is to collect and use GOOD representative data to support the profession. Critical voices are helpful in identifying potential past gaps.
Warmly,
Sam
 
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