Applying to a program both categorical and advanced

[sniderwes]

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Does ERAS count this as one program or two when it comes to paying fees per program?

 

[Dr. Death]

two

 

[sniderwes]

two

Damn so when someone says they're applying to 50 programs, it's categorical+advanced+TY+Prelim that adds up to 50? If categorical and advanced double count then I have like 100 programs on my list...

 

[DoctorPlzzz]

Damn so when someone says they're applying to 50 programs, it's categorical+advanced+TY+Prelim that adds up to 50? If categorical and advanced double count then I have like 100 programs on my list...

It is counted as 1 program.

I'm new so not allowed to post link, but just search ERAS application fees and should be first link.

If you apply to the categorical and advanced positions under 1 program (one school/hospital/group...etc) you pay for 1 program, not 2. And you will interview at that program once.

Applying this year. This is how I paid for it.

 

[atomi]

It is counted as 1 program.

I'm new so not allowed to post link, but just search ERAS application fees and should be first link.

If you apply to the categorical and advanced positions under 1 program (one school/hospital/group...etc) you pay for 1 program, not 2. And you will interview at that program once.

Applying this year. This is how I paid for it.

What? No.

The vast majority of people who do an advanced program have to find an independent intern year. You absolutely will have to pay for both separately.

There are a few integrated programs, but these are the minority.

 

[sniderwes]

What? No.

The vast majority of people who do an advanced program have to find an independent intern year. You absolutely will have to pay for both separately.

There are a few integrated programs, but these are the minority.

So I've been doing a lot of research and it doesn't seem like it costs extra to apply for a program's advanced program if you are already applying to their categorical. You just have to pay for a separate TY/Prelim year app whereever that ends up being.

I'm not sure when you applied, but most of the programs now have more categorical spots than advanced.

 

[DoctorPlzzz]

What? No.

The vast majority of people who do an advanced program have to find an independent intern year. You absolutely will have to pay for both separately.

There are a few integrated programs, but these are the minority.

Yes, this is true. I think there was a misunderstanding.

What I understood from the OP was about the categorical and advanced position from the same program, forgetting about intern year for now. In which case, it is just one fee for both positions under the same program.

Yes, you do have to find an intern year on your own for an advanced position, which will incur a separate fee (that is calculated under a new specialty so slightly different price depending on number of programs applied), but this is not what OP was asking.

 

[DoctorPlzzz]

So I've been doing a lot of research and it doesn't seem like it costs extra to apply for a program's advanced program if you are already applying to their categorical. You just have to pay for a separate TY/Prelim year app whereever that ends up being.

I'm not sure when you applied, but most of the programs now have more categorical spots than advanced.

Yes, this is true because categorical and advanced positions are offered by the SAME program. It is one fee, one application, once interview for both positions of this program (for this specialty, NOT including an intern year).

The other thing is that many people will apply to many advanced positions but significant less TY/prelim years because the TY/prelim years can be paired with any advanced position and prelims have much more spots than advanced programs (if you aren't picky).

The switch to categorical is true across all specialties because it makes sense for programs to train their own interns as TY/prelim years vary drastically. It is also more convenient for applicants to complete training at one program for the entirety of residency. HOWEVER, this switch is not occurring as rapidly in certain specialties compared to others. For example, there are rarely just advanced positions in anesthesiology now, and many are categorical. But categorical ophthalmology and radiology are still relatively rare.

P.S. - intern year in TY and prelim are under a "different" specialty, thus different program and new set of fees.

 

[eastwestnurse]

so does a program that is listed as both " family medicine" and "categorical" (two separate programs to check) only count as one program? Is there any advantage to apply both ways?