Applying to Medical School in America with a BSc from UK Uni

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Hey there, I am a medical student in London UK (where Medicine is an undergraduate degree). Our course is divided into 3 preclinical and 3 clinical years, and during my 3rd year I can 'stop' doing medicine for one year and do another subject, earning a BSc in that area (which would otherwise take 3 years or more).
My question is: if I do my 2 preclinical years over here, get a BSc in - let's say - Neuroscience, and sit the MCAT, etc. and apply to med school in the US would I have a chance?

Thanks

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Hey there, I am a medical student in London UK (where Medicine is an undergraduate degree). Our course is divided into 3 preclinical and 3 clinical years, and during my 3rd year I can 'stop' doing medicine for one year and do another subject, earning a BSc in that area (which would otherwise take 3 years or more).
My question is: if I do my 2 preclinical years over here, get a BSc in - let's say - Neuroscience, and sit the MCAT, etc. and apply to med school in the US would I have a chance?

Thanks
US MD med schools typically require 60-90 credits earned in US or Canadian accredited colleges, including all the prerequisite coursework. At least one requires a full bachelors degree earned in the US, and a few only require 30 credits. But all will want you to have earned a bachelors degree by the time of matriculation to med school.

The primary MD med school application service, called AMCAS, does not accept international transcripts at all, BTW. You can short-cut the process by transferring your undergrad credits from abroad and get them accepted by a US college. Whether you did this or not, you would be obliged to have a formal transcript evaluation in order to "translate" your coursework and grades into US equivalents and send the result to each med school you applied to individually.

Another type of medical school in the US confers a DO degree, which is equivalent to the MD in practice rights. Their application service is called AACOMAS. I believe they do accept foreign coursework, but I am less familiar with their other requirements.
 
Hey there, I am a medical student in London UK (where Medicine is an undergraduate degree). Our course is divided into 3 preclinical and 3 clinical years, and during my 3rd year I can 'stop' doing medicine for one year and do another subject, earning a BSc in that area (which would otherwise take 3 years or more).
My question is: if I do my 2 preclinical years over here, get a BSc in - let's say - Neuroscience, and sit the MCAT, etc. and apply to med school in the US would I have a chance?

Thanks

Can't you finish your MBBS (I believe thats what its called in the UK?), and then take the USMLE exams and apply for residency programs? That is what my sister did (and one of my first cousins as well). My sister finished her undergraduate degree in medicine from Pakistan (oh and we have the A levels in Pakistan too, so the undergrad medical school degree is 5 years of med school straight after your A levels) And after that she just studied for the USMLE. Got a 99th percentile and got a residency in NY (she was an american citizen so the visa issue wasn't there though...)

Edit: I believe she had 2 residency offers actually. She could have gotten several more but she was geographically restricted because her husband wanted to move to NY. Oh and on a side note, she just finished her residency of 3 years in internal medicine and will be officially starting as a doctor now. Her starting salary I believe is 200K as well (again she got another offer for 175K from somewhere else too). So, I have seen international doctors passing the USMLE exams and starting residencies. Its possible.

Oh and for american readers who are unfamiliar with the british educational system, English students do their A levels which is kinda like high school (but not really). Think of it as advanced highschool (Like AP classes), but ofcourse mandatory. And after one finishes their A levels, they can head into medical school, which is not 4 years but 5 instead. And after the 5 years they are doctors. This is as far as I understand the system, I may be wrong because I am basing this off of the Pakistani system which was basically adopted from the british (yay for colonization!)
 
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Hey there, I am a medical student in London UK (where Medicine is an undergraduate degree). Our course is divided into 3 preclinical and 3 clinical years, and during my 3rd year I can 'stop' doing medicine for one year and do another subject, earning a BSc in that area (which would otherwise take 3 years or more).
My question is: if I do my 2 preclinical years over here, get a BSc in - let's say - Neuroscience, and sit the MCAT, etc. and apply to med school in the US would I have a chance?

Thanks

I know someone in your exact situation (from London, wants to do neuroscience, etc) by any chance are you initials TA?

as Catalysitk said, you have to do a lot of leg work to even be considered by US allopathic schools. If you want to practice in the US, you are probably better off doing as cyanide said by finishing your medical degree in the UK while studying for the USMLE exams
 
Hey there, I am a medical student in London UK (where Medicine is an undergraduate degree). Our course is divided into 3 preclinical and 3 clinical years, and during my 3rd year I can 'stop' doing medicine for one year and do another subject, earning a BSc in that area (which would otherwise take 3 years or more).
My question is: if I do my 2 preclinical years over here, get a BSc in - let's say - Neuroscience, and sit the MCAT, etc. and apply to med school in the US would I have a chance?

Thanks

However, before you decide to finish your degree in the UK, or even do the 3 years and come to America, there are a few pros and cons you need to keep in mind. So, the pros ofcourse deal with you finishing your education early. Whereas, keep in mind that there are positions for international applicants for residencies in mostly less competitive programs. If you go by that route, you can kiss good bye to programs like derma, radiology, surgery etc. Internal medicine ofcourse is available. So really depends on what you want to do.

I personally wanted to go into more competitive residency programs and hence I went to an american college because the residency that a local student will get with a 90th percentile score will be something you won't get with a 99th percentile score. But the other option of continuing education inside of Pakistan was pretty attractive too since it was (A- Cheap!!!, B- saved 2-3 years of my life). So, I guess you have a lot to think about 🙂
 
Yes my original plan was to sit the USMLEs and then apply for a residency in the US. However I was reading somewhere that American graduates are matched first, THEN they look at foreigners. And it would be especially hard for neurosurgery apparently (which is what I want to do).

As for doing at least one year in an American college, Stanford says you have to spend one year of your education either in the US, Canada or the UK, which would therefore be fine for me. (?)
I thought I'd be fine as long as I get an awesome score in the MCAT. I guess I'll e-mail a couple of med schools and ask them too.

Oh, and no my initials are not TA 😉
 
Yes my original plan was to sit the USMLEs and then apply for a residency in the US. However I was reading somewhere that American graduates are matched first, THEN they look at foreigners. And it would be especially hard for neurosurgery apparently (which is what I want to do).

As for doing at least one year in an American college, Stanford says you have to spend one year of your education either in the US, Canada or the UK, which would therefore be fine for me. (?)
I thought I'd be fine as long as I get an awesome score in the MCAT. I guess I'll e-mail a couple of med schools and ask them too.

Oh, and no my initials are not TA 😉

Oh yea its true that americans are matched first. Like I've already said, the local students will always be preferred. So, if you go through that route then neurosurgery is pretty darn impossible. So, yea the only other option left for you would be coming to the US and finish your bachelors degree. Well check what schools say about accepting your british education (maybe theres many more out there than stanford, I wouldn't put my eggs in one basket and think i'll get getting admitted into stanford by any means) And just for the record, an awesome MCAT score is not as easy to get.

So out of curiosity, why not just become a doctor in england? Its not like your in some third world country which has more or less no opportunities. And the doors to any european country are open for you as well. Why do you want to practice in America? Is it worth the extra 3 - 4 years and the extra 100 - 200 K money that you will have to invest ? Why not just become a doctor in UK, move to sweden or denmark or some peaceful place like that? I just don't see why you would give up certainty for something which is much more uncertain. Your already in medical school and already on your way to become a doctor. Why give up all of that, and go back to an american college and perhaps spend another 2 years there (if your lucky to get enough transfer credits, most colleges still need atleast 60 hours to graduate from there), and then another 4 years of medical school here. Followed by another 7 years of residency for surgery (I think thats how long it is?) And then another 2 years of specialization in neurosurgery. Do you really think its a good decision to just risk everything you have?????? Like seriously, in 3 years you will be a recognized doctor everywhere except America and Canada.

Oh and reality check, do you have 200 thousand dollars just lying around ? Do you know how impossible it is for international students to even get loans. You can't get a loan without a co-signer with a pretty darn good credit score atleast. So really it may seem like an easy task just to come to college in America. But once your here, the reality of the situation dawns upon you. My gf who is a permanent resident in the US, even she couldn't get a loan for college because she didn't have a sufficient credit history. She had to take a year off and work 80 hours a week to just be able to make enough to pay for another school year. I don't want to deter you, but I just want you to look past the rosy picture of doctors making a lot of money in the US and evaluate whether taking such a risky move of dropping out of medical school in the UK is a good decision. Because, in my opinion, you seem to be injuring your chances of actually becoming a doctor. Coming to America and starting to study here by no means guarentees that you will become a neurosurgeon here. Wouldn't everyone in America want to be a neurosurgeon 🙂 But theres only some 50 - 100 people every year that make it. So, account for all the financials, the extra time, and the everyday uncertainty, and decide whether this is a good career move.
 
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I appreciate the help guys. I do not intend to give up anything 'certain' for something 'uncertain' as you say. I just would like to apply; if I don't get in I'll stick to my medical degree over here. I love my uni, but I also love America and want to live there, ergo practice there too.

And I was quoting Stanford not cuz I'm a crazy cocky student who thinks it's easy to get in, but simply cuz it's the ONLY one who says they want their students to have spent one year either in america, canada or ENGLAND (and not just the usual 'do at least one year of college in the US or Canada').
 
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