Applying with sexual misdemeanor

[duckfyslexia]

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Charged for 1 trespasses, 1 voyeurism, never convicted, got a discharge, but will need to disclose on the applications. Is there even a point in applying considering that it was a conditional discharge and will be wiped off the record in 2 more years? Will this be an automatic rejection by every school?

 

[•Syzygy•]

let me guess, you now wanna be a gynecologist

 

[tekkenman11]

Try when your record has been wiped clean. Applying with that now is a death sentence.

 

[Turkishking]

Charged for 1 trespasses, 1 voyeurism, never convicted, got a discharge, but will need to disclose on the applications. Is there even a point in applying considering that it was a conditional discharge and will be wiped off the record in 2 more years? Will this be an automatic rejection by every school?

Are you joking?

 

[Mad Jack]

Charged for 1 trespasses, 1 voyeurism, never convicted, got a discharge, but will need to disclose on the applications. Is there even a point in applying considering that it was a conditional discharge and will be wiped off the record in 2 more years? Will this be an automatic rejection by every school?

Automatic rejection for sure unless it was public urination, in which case just most likely rejection.

 

[Dox4lyfe]

Charged for 1 trespasses, 1 voyeurism, never convicted, got a discharge, but will need to disclose on the applications. Is there even a point in applying considering that it was a conditional discharge and will be wiped off the record in 2 more years? Will this be an automatic rejection by every school?

Lol gl

 

[ChymeofPassion]

Ur done

 

[GShow]

Hoping this is a troll. I wouldn't want my doctor having a record of spying on people doing the dirty.

At least that's what I assume you did, as you were charged with trespassing and having sexual pleasure from watching other's who are naked/having sex (Voyeurism).

 

[Planes2Doc]

I'm pretty sure a lot of schools will reject people that have misdemeanors regarding moral turpitude. Even though battery, voyeurism, soliciting a prostitute, and others can be classified as misdemeanors, they will still lead to a rejection. At this point, a misdemeanor is only semantics. For example, student A getting a simple speeding ticket in Texas that counts as a misdemeanor is not the same as student B that was trespassing to do voyeurism. Despite being expunged, I would actually be concerned about licensing in the future, since even expunged offenses will pop up. So even though medical schools won't have a clue in two years (assuming your name or mug shot aren't available online), licensing boards will in a few years. So be careful before you end up wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars and years of your life.

 

[Planes2Doc]

And on a similarly related note, there is a guy from my home town that is an exhibitionist on Facebook (and his videos are apparently available online). This came to light when someone posted a screen shot of his profile on a local garage sale page. It said that he completed medical school at the Ohio State University College of Medicine. Searching through Google yields no results of him practicing as a physician. I don't think it would take a rocket scientist or neurosurgeon to figure out why.

Voyeurism is a DSM-V disorder. Seek help.

 

[DokterMom]

Charged for 1 trespasses, 1 voyeurism, never convicted, got a discharge, but will need to disclose on the applications. Is there even a point in applying considering that it was a conditional discharge and will be wiped off the record in 2 more years? Will this be an automatic rejection by every school?

Sounds like more than voyeurism if you got a discharge from it...


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Couldn't help it...

 

[Govols22]

 

[MD_Odyssey]

let me guess, you now wanna be a gynecologist

Ohmygosh!

 

[Princeton Medical Student]

Charged for 1 trespasses, 1 voyeurism, never convicted, got a discharge, but will need to disclose on the applications. Is there even a point in applying considering that it was a conditional discharge and will be wiped off the record in 2 more years? Will this be an automatic rejection by every school?

I'll be the first to respond seriously. (I want to rant about the off topic ****ty/smug responses, but I wont).

Applying with this on your record is a mistake. If you are correct that this will be entirely wiped off your record (I would check with your lawyer), then you absolutely should wait these two years, and do something productive in the meantime. I would advise to be careful, and to conduct a background check on yourself to see if there is any record of this occurring. In some states, and for some background checks I am aware that sealing the records would not prevent them from appearing on a background check. If your lawyer assures you that no record will exist, then you should apply in those 2 years.

 

[Planes2Doc]

I'll be the first to respond seriously. (I want to rant about the off topic ****ty/smug responses, but I wont).

Applying with this on your record is a mistake. If you are correct that this will be entirely wiped off your record (I would check with your lawyer), then you absolutely should wait these two years, and do something productive in the meantime. I would advise to be careful, and to conduct a background check on yourself to see if there is any record of this occurring. In some states, and for some background checks I am aware that sealing the records would not prevent them from appearing on a background check. If your lawyer assures you that no record will exist, then you should apply in those 2 years.

Medical school isn't the issue with this expunged record. It's the actual medical licensing board after medical school.

 

[Princeton Medical Student]

Medical school isn't the issue with this expunged record. It's the actual medical licensing board after medical school.

Im unsure if expunged conviction == discharge though, since from my understanding a discharge means he never was actually convicted. Is @Law2Doc still active here?

 

[Planes2Doc]

Im unsure if expunged conviction == discharge though, since from my understanding a discharge means he never was actually convicted. Is @Law2Doc still active here?

Yeah things tend to get very tricky. You can have arrests that do not end up leading to conviction and so on. I believe everything and anything will pop up when the licensing boards look. Therefore, if you want to become a business consultant or investment banker and make tons of money. You will benefit from having things like this dropped or expunged. But do you want to be a doctor, nurse, realtor, or nail technician? Then you may have trouble getting your license.

 

[I'mJustCurious]

Medical school isn't the issue with this expunged record. It's the actual medical licensing board after medical school.

There are lawyers with felonies that are able to still get licensed, so I would imagine that a medical school graduated would have to disclose to the medical licensing board and it would be up to the board to decide.

 

[Peach Newport]

A betting man would say you need to find a new career. Hell, I say you need to find a new career. However, I guess there's still a chance that this is all overblown and you're actually not the pervert the law thinks your are. I mean, hey, you weren't convicted.

You have two big problems.

1) Schools find out. There is not a single medical school in the country that would accept you if they knew this. This is a HUGE deal, despite being an "expunged" or "dismissed" misdemeanor. You have a better chance of getting in with multiple drug convinctions than a sexual crime. It totally undermines the public's trust in doctors. Schools will almost certainly find out - Most schools use CertiPhi, a service that's extremely comprehensive.

Don't bother with a lawyer. This actually isn't really a legal issue. Plus, ten lawyers will tell you ten different things about this subject. What you need to do is run an FBI background check on yourself. This costs money and is time consuming, but you must do it. If anything comes up, you're done.

2) Licensing. This will be extremely State-dependent, so TALK TO THE STATE MEDICAL BOARDS.

Neither of these are steps you can skip.

Now if you'll excuse me I need to wash my hands.

 

[Planes2Doc]

There are lawyers with felonies that are able to still get licensed, so I would imagine that a medical school graduated would have to disclose to the medical licensing board and it would be up to the board to decide.

True. But it's the nature of the crime that makes it difficult to get licensed. See @Peach Newport's post below:

A betting man would say you need to find a new career. Hell, I say you need to find a new career. However, I guess there's still a chance that this is all overblown and you're actually not the pervert the law thinks your are. I mean, hey, you weren't convicted.

You have two big problems.

1) Schools find out. There is not a single medical school in the country that would accept you if they knew this. This is a HUGE deal, despite being an "expunged" or "dismissed" misdemeanor. You have a better chance of getting in with multiple drug convinctions than a sexual crime. It totally undermines the public's trust in doctors. Schools will almost certainly find out - Most schools use CertiPhi, a service that's extremely comprehensive.

Don't bother with a lawyer. This actually isn't really a legal issue. Plus, ten lawyers will tell you ten different things about this subject. What you need to do is run an FBI background check on yourself. This costs money and is time consuming, but you must do it. If anything comes up, you're done.

2) Licensing. This will be extremely State-dependent, so TALK TO THE STATE MEDICAL BOARDS.

Neither of these are steps you can skip.

Now if you'll excuse me I need to wash my hands.

This is very true. The nature of the crime is what will sink this person when it comes to licensing. As I mentioned earlier, the difference between misdemeanor and felony in this case is pretty much semantics. I'm a firm believer that what people do in their free time is something that shouldn't impact their professional life at work in any way. Therefore, I don't care if a physician is looking at porn during their time off, frequenting strip clubs during their time off, hiring escorts during their time off, or hell, even cheating on their wives during their time off. While people may look down at these things, they are not necessarily illegal and you are not actually victimizing someone.

In this case, the OP took it to the next level. There was clearly a victim here (and it is NOT the OP), and a crime was perpetrated. Things like this do not go well in the medical profession, especially when doctors have access to the most private aspects of a patient life including their body and everything inside it.

Does anyone remember this?

http://nypost.com/2014/07/21/johns-hopkins-settles-with-victims-of-pervy-gyno-for-190m/

 

[Goro]

Charged for 1 trespasses, 1 voyeurism, never convicted, got a discharge, but will need to disclose on the applications. Is there even a point in applying considering that it was a conditional discharge and will be wiped off the record in 2 more years? Will this be an automatic rejection by every school?

DOA at my school.

 

[Kisangani]

Your offense was not punished (discharged) so whatever you did was likely not as bad as others are assuming. If you have an otherwise strong application, this may or may not hold you back. You may not even need to report it unless what you were charged with was a felony (not sure what the fine print on the AMCAS app says regarding reporting law infractions). I know at least one person at my school who has been arrested in the past and they said that it never came up in the application process at all. Good luck.