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JeetKuneDo

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I've read many times throughout many forums on sdn of how nurse practitioners could threaten MD's as primary care providers. Recently, I received a bill from my school's hall health which stated that the ARNP I saw is considered "Doctor". No disrespect to her, she was very nice and knew what she was doing, but it's just interesting to see that my school considers ARNP to equal Doctor.
 
I've read many times throughout many forums on sdn of how nurse practitioners could threaten MD's as primary care providers.
Family medicine and Primary Care is in the toilet right now. These types of providers are in serious, serious demand and because of the shortage, and the lack of access to such providers, many people use the ER as their primary care clinic, which has obvious catastrophic fallouts. This is not the fault of the NP. Without NPs, primary care would be even more of a nightmare and the majority, if not all, practicing physicians (the real one's, not the SDN ones) agree that the NP role is critical right now and that NPs are not a hindrance to the profession. In rural area's, NPs are the ONLY access to family medicine for some people. The blame falls on the government. If anyone is ruining family care and primary care, it is the government. End of story.
Recently, I received a bill from my school's hall health which stated that the ARNP I saw is considered "Doctor". No disrespect to her, she was very nice and knew what she was doing, but it's just interesting to see that my school considers ARNP to equal Doctor.
In most states, the american bored of nursing dictates that only advance practice nurses who also hold a PhD can be addressed as "Doctor" in a clinical setting. Each state has specific provisions on this and generally, in most, if not all states, NPs are not supposed to address themselves as Doctors...but thats not always the case. I have heard other doctors introduce NPs as doctors knowing full well they are NPs. Ive heard NPs address themselves as doctors knowing full well they aren't. I have also heard doctors address med students as doctors knowing full well they are not, so it happens. And just for the record, lawyers are also considered doctors, PhD holders are considered doctors, pharmacist are considered doctors, etc. People in these professions, with these degrees. can be addressed as "Doctor"...in other words, MD/DO is not the only profession that retains the right to this title.

Furhtermoe, this could be a typo type issue. Did the NP address herself as "Doctor So and So" at the clinic or did she say that she was a NP? Perhaps the reason she is billed as "Doctor" has to do with the logisitcs of billing and nothing more. For example, at the hospital where I work, we have a surgical NP who frequently does the rounding and order writing/changing. She clearly idntiifes herself as a NP. However, when you dial her extension, it comes up Dr. Her Name Here. Just a stupid secretarial hospital typo/error. 🙂
 
Family medicine and Primary Care is in the toilet right now. These types of providers are in serious, serious demand and because of the shortage, and the lack of access to such providers, many people use the ER as their primary care clinic, which has obvious catastrophic fallouts. This is not the fault of the NP. Without NPs, primary care would be even more of a nightmare and the majority, if not all, practicing physicians (the real one's, not the SDN ones) agree that the NP role is critical right now and that NPs are not a hindrance to the profession. In rural area's, NPs are the ONLY access to family medicine for some people. The blame falls on the government. If anyone is ruining family care and primary care, it is the government. End of story.

I agree with you, not complaining about an NP's role at all.

Furhtermoe, this could be a typo type issue. Did the NP address herself as "Doctor So and So" at the clinic or did she say that she was a NP? Perhaps the reason she is billed as "Doctor" has to do with the logisitcs of billing and nothing more. For example, at the hospital where I work, we have a surgical NP who frequently does the rounding and order writing/changing. She clearly idntiifes herself as a NP. However, when you dial her extension, it comes up Dr. Her Name Here. Just a stupid secretarial hospital typo/error. 🙂

True, it could be a typo since she did introduce herself with "Hi, I'm Yadayada, Nurse Practitioner. I was just a little surprised at the bill and was wondering if it was the norm now to consider NP's as doctors for billing purposes.
 
I was just a little surprised at the bill and was wondering if it was the norm now to consider NP's as doctors for billing purposes.
Being a NP and making a MDs salary would be awesome (I mean, for us NP'ers....not so much you MD'ers 😉). Sounds like she's got it figured out. 😀

Maybe they're scamming the insurance company. in which case, more power to them!! :meanie:
 
On one hand, if they were as effective and cheaper to train/employ then it would be good for the system to use NPs for primary care. On the other hand, I doubt that is true. And on yet another hand, the threat of that makes it a pretty unattractive proposition to go into primary care. We're screwed.
 
On one hand, if they were as effective and cheaper to train/employ then it would be good for the system to use NPs for primary care. On the other hand, I doubt that is true. And on yet another hand, the threat of that makes it a pretty unattractive proposition to go into primary care. We're screwed.
Hopefully the shortage will create incentives that make going into the specialty worthwhile. Nursing wasn't always an in demand job...until there were no nurses and they had to make the profession more attractable. Same thing with teachers. :xf:
 

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