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Ditto this.Don't.
What do I do then?Ditto this.
Why?Don't.
How often does your lab produces publications? Did PI give any indication when you started? You can ask grad students or post docs in the lab. Some labs publish frequently but others take long time. Depends on the type of research, target audience for the publication but also on PI.I have been doing research at an institution for more than a year now, and am contributing a significant amount of time and help to the lab but I have not been offered anything regarding a pub as a co-author.
I want to ask if I can do anything more that would result in me being published. How should I go about this/what should I do?
I do agree with the bolded above.Strongly disagree with Goro and make. If your level of involvement rises to that of a coauthor, then you should be on the paper, period. What constitutes an appropriate level of involvement to be a coauthor varies somewhat by PI, but if you are contributing a substantial amount of manpower, contributing to discussions, and helping write the manuscript, then you should definitely be a coauthor. You need to have a candid conversation with your PI to see if they think you deserve to be a coauthor, and if they don't think you've done enough then you should ask what other responsibilities you need to take on to be considered a coauthor. If your PI is one of those that thinks no undergrads should be listed as authors, then you should run.
If you feel like you have enough experience to lead your own projects, then you should make that desire clear as well.
Goro thinks you shouldn't have this conversation- that is absolutely the wrong advice and contributes to toxic environments and exploitation of undergrad labor.
I agree with what you have written, but just because OP has been in a lab for "more than a year" doesn't mean they should have their name on a publication by now (it took me over 3 years working full time to get my first publication). Asking why they aren't on a manuscript yet could make them come across as impatient and naïve, but I suppose it doesn't hurt to inquire about the process, which will vary among fields of study and from lab to lab.Strongly disagree with Goro and make. If your level of involvement rises to that of a coauthor, then you should be on the paper, period. What constitutes an appropriate level of involvement to be a coauthor varies somewhat by PI, but if you are contributing a substantial amount of manpower, contributing to discussions, and helping write the manuscript, then you should definitely be a coauthor. You need to have a candid conversation with your PI to see if they think you deserve to be a coauthor, and if they don't think you've done enough then you should ask what other responsibilities you need to take on to be considered a coauthor. If your PI is one of those that thinks no undergrads should be listed as authors, then you should run.
If you feel like you have enough experience to lead your own projects, then you should make that desire clear as well.
Goro thinks you shouldn't have this conversation- that is absolutely the wrong advice and contributes to toxic environments and exploitation of undergrad labor.
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You must be bold with what you want, otherwise you’re going to be taken advantage of.
I work for a large clinical trial and our PI wants us to draw interns in “by the wagon-load” to do all the printing, collating, accompanying RAs to home visits, etc. Not particularly good experience for medical school. Therefore, its important for you to set expectations for what you get out of a lab because you run the risk of being taken advantage of without obtaining meaningful professional development/experience.
Contrary to what most people have recommended here, I had a conversation with my PI about 4 months into my research job about how I could facilitate getting my name onto a publication. I ended up taking on my own project updating a review paper that my boss had written years ago—it’s not exactly a high-powered original research article, but for us it was a win-win. I will (hopefully) get a first author publication and he will have an update on his paper with minimal work. I agree with others that it depends on your relationship with your PI, but I would personally recommend advocating for yourself.
See what GalaxyBrain wrote.Let me know your opinion on what I wrote above^
Yes, and you should have articulated more in your first response. Replying with "Don't" isn't helpful.I agree with what you have written, but just because OP has been in a lab for "more than a year" doesn't mean they should have their name on a publication by now (it took me over 3 years working full time to get my first publication). Asking why they aren't on a manuscript yet could make them come across as impatient and naïve, but I suppose it doesn't hurt to inquire about the process, which will vary among fields of study and from lab to lab.
I apologize. It doesn't hurt to ask about the publishing process. But the original post sounds really entitled.Yes, and you should have articulated more in your first response. Replying with "Don't" isn't helpful.
I have been doing research at an institution for more than a year now, and am contributing a significant amount of time and help to the lab but I have not been offered anything regarding a pub as a co-author.
I want to ask if I can do anything more that would result in me being published. How should I go about this/what should I do?
Yes, there are research wh..., um, sex workers,
The tenured, seasoned folks function on longer timelines and are less likely to give you academic writing opportunities.
I would've done that but because of COVID they are only allowing less than 50% of the lab to come in. Only the postdocs and I am allowed to go in. I haven't seen my PI in person in monthsTbh I would've asked something like this in person. Your tone could be easily misinterpreted as coming off as entitled, just like you did here even though your intentions were good.
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Catch me in Cell Metabolism Feb 2021 boys 😎
Agreed! Also very grateful that my PI was kind enough to give me such an opportunity. I'm very excited 🙂Let's go if premeds slowly want change we must speak up and not let ourselves get taken advantage of 👍
Amen brotherLet's go if premeds slowly want change we must speak up and not let ourselves get taken advantage of 👍