assessment hours

[bcliff]

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I’ve heard a lot of conflicting reports, and I wanted to see what the SDN consensus is: How are FTF assessment hours accrued in the context of a research study counted on the APPI?

 

[WisNeuro]

I believe that they had to have been clinical in nature, and had to have been supervised by a licensed individual to count. E.g., testing a potentially demented population under supervision. Although, I have not closely read the APPIC rules on this in about 6 years, so I do not know about any wording changes.

Edit, here's what the current manual states
"In this section, you should indicate all psychological assessment instruments that you used as part of your practicum experiences with actual patients/clients (columns one and two) or research participants in a clinical study (column three) through November 1. If the person you assessed was not a client, patient, or clinical research participant, then you should not include this experience in this summary. Do not include any practice administrations."

 

[bcliff]

I believe that they had to have been clinical in nature, and had to have been supervised by a licensed individual to count. E.g., testing a potentially demented population under supervision. Although, I have not closely read the APPIC rules on this in about 6 years, so I do not know about any wording changes.

Edit, here's what the current manual states
"In this section, you should indicate all psychological assessment instruments that you used as part of your practicum experiences with actual patients/clients (columns one and two) or research participants in a clinical study (column three) through November 1. If the person you assessed was not a client, patient, or clinical research participant, then you should not include this experience in this summary. Do not include any practice administrations."

Ok, great -- So, then when neuro- sites report FTF assessment hours totals, based on APPIC reqs, that would include research hours? The wording seems ambiguous regarding clinical research questions pursued with non-clinical samples.

 

[WisNeuro]

Good question, I only listed testing with clinical samples in my hours, but I had a TON overall, so I didn't care much about my non-clinical testing hours. May be worth a quick e-mail to appic.

 

[Ollie123]

We included them at my university. Folks here indicated one isn't supposed to if its for research and cited listserv discussions indicating they don't count. However, the application materials are abundantly clear that they DO count (assuming the other criteria are met of course - supervised, etc.). Quite frankly, it seems idiotic for them not to count so including them made sense to us and our DCT signed off on it. We went with the application materials since I couldn't find any actual evidence outside this board that they shouldn't.

That said, it makes sense to be reasonable about it. Administering a SCID to participants in a therapy clinical trial for depression makes sense to include. I wouldn't count BDI data collected online from 500 undergrads as part of a generic survey battery (for instance).

 

[bcliff]

Yea, that makes sense -- I do a ton of administration of neuro- assessments for research, and I meet weekly with my advisor to discuss the study overall, including scoring and administration issues. Based on this info I feel pretty confident that they’ll all count. I’ve been nervous about getting enough FTF assessment hours, but this definitely relieves some of that pressure.