ASTRO social media survey

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ASTRO (or maybe ARRO) just sent out another high quality survey, this time about social media use. If you have received a link to complete the survey, I would highly recommend doing so. At the end they ask about use of SDN and if you feel this forum accurately represents the radiation oncology community, and if you feel safe posting your (anonymous) opinions here.

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Our specialty needs to stop doing useless research like this. Why can't we publish something that actually increases OS and extend the indications of radiotherapy? Instead, all we get is research aimed at less RT or no RT.

I mean we publish SABR-COMET and Gomez/Iyengar trials.

But yes, agree on the flooding of surveys as 'research' is getting silly. I did like the ARRO survey on resident evaluation of brachytherapy experience presented a few years ago at ASTRO but that's the last one I remember not immediately rolling my eyes at.
 
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Or find more ways to make radiation faster, cheaper, more acceptable.
 
Our specialty needs to stop doing useless research like this. Why can't we publish something that actually increases OS and extend the indications of radiotherapy? Instead, all we get is research aimed at less RT or no RT.

Agree!

Got at least 10 surveys for the last year!
 
I don't think they really care. As long as 5% or so respond, it should be good enough to call definitive...

5%? If they get 1% response rate it’ll be a miracle if the investigators even mention in the discussion that their results could be skewed much less totally unrepresentative.
 
RadOnc attracted better candidates than MedOnc or Surgery from c. 2003 - 16, but that has not yet translated in quality of our research ideas.
 
Our specialty needs to stop doing useless research like this. Why can't we publish something that actually increases OS and extend the indications of radiotherapy? Instead, all we get is research aimed at less RT or no RT.

Curious what else would be useful from representative societies. Perhaps more on trainee/continuing medical education?
 
Some great practice-changing studies did not involve corruption.. I'm thinking PORTEC2, Turrisi SCLC, Canadian breast.

This word "corruption" is odd in this context.

Systemic agents typically need clear phase 3 data with large, expensive studies to be approved by the FDA. That's both for approval and for each indication for use. This is in addition to research before this stage that is often performed in or with academia. Drug companies pay for all of this, typically with rates to academic centers higher than the rates paid by government funded studies.

New linear accelerators need no such trials. A report is filed with the FDA, the device is granted clearance for marketing, and rad oncs start buying it. The indication for use is very broad, something like can be used to radiate anything the doc says. The vendors don't need to pay for studies, and they don't. They might give a little money here and there to spread some influence, but it's peanuts compared to pharma money. In academics, we then publish what we can think to do with these devices, but it's typically retrospective data since nobody will pay for the prospective studies.

As for the government, they pay for studies and provide a lot of cooperative group funding, but NIH funding has not grown in a long time and is highly competitive. Getting large practice changing studies off the ground is a long process, mired in beuracracy and politics, and highly competitive. A lot of people try to go this route, since it essentially makes your academic career to be involved with these studies, but the pace of discovery using the NIH funded route is much slower.

So it's not corruption to get funding from pharma. It's a byproduct of the regulatory environment that we have. Pharma funding is how a lot of the research simply gets paid for.
 
Since the other thread was closed re: ASTRO:

These kinds of jobs were always present on the board but recently it seems Astro changed a setting regarding priority of where these jobs appear. The non rad onc/non physician jobs always showed up on back pages before. Now it seems like it's just reverse chronological order. I'm not sure why they changed it.
Maybe their priorities have changed with the weakening job market.

Other entities aren't going to post their RN, CNA, janitorial jobs etc without decent placement. Chronological puts everyone on the same footing.

Bottom line, RO job placement is no more important to ASTRO than making money from anyone else looking to post a job.

ASTROs job site was never the place to get the best jobs imo and this is one more nail in the coffin in that regard
 
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Since the other thread was closed re: ASTRO:


Maybe their priorities have changed with the weakening job market.

Other entities aren't going to post their RN, CNA, janitorial jobs etc without decent placement. Chronological puts everyone on the same footing.

Bottom line, RO job placement is no more important to ASTRO than making money from anyone else looking to post a job.

ASTROs site was the never place to get the best jobs imo and this is one more nail in the coffin in that regard

Not sure why it was closed for being an "offending" post. Repetitive regarding job market or my tone was too snarky?

But I just would like to say, I will be happy to adjust my tone and give ASTRO the benefit of the doubt that this is an error and hope they change it. However, the reality is that they have been posting not only non-physician jobs, but also non-RT and even non-oncology related jobs for a long time, just not in this volume. IMO jobs outside of the radiation industry these have no place on the ASTRO job board and ASTRO should not be accepting these for publication. It is a really, really slimy look. What's next, clickbait ads?
 
The post was fine. I'm just trying to balance SDN between discussions about the practice of radiation oncology, oncology, and medicine in general with discussions of the job market. I don't want the job market discussions to drown out the other discussions. All these discussions are important, but I think the health of our open community relies on a balance of threads and discussion topics.

Think of it this way, just like on the front page of the Astro careers site, imagine if someone clicks to SDN and of the top 10 threads, 9/10 are about radiation utilization, the job market, etc. That is not sustainable in the long run in my opinion, as it will push out all other discussion about radiation oncology over time. Now where that balance should be is open for discussion. I believe strongly in transparency in these issues of moderation and my experience has been that SDN believes in limiting moderation as much as possible within certain confines.

I'm also of the strong belief that the ASTRO Careers site issue is just a website glitch. I've seen the same thing happen in the past. So why make a new thread again blasting ASTRO (with all associated conspiracy theories) for something that's just a website glitch? On this point time will tell.
 
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