Attitudes Towards Physicians

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Hey everyone,

I've been reading a lot of articles regarding attitudes towards physicians, be it from nurses/PAs/patients etc. I'd also like to really emphasize that 'm not here to start any kind of flame war.

However, I will be starting medical school next fall and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share their experiences working with other groups. I know some med schools have courses/programs designed to integrate different groups in a healthcare setting, but does anyone know how pharm students/nursing students/etc. view medical students? I do believe that every member is a valued component of the healthcare team, but does this view translate in the real world setting?

Sorry if that isn't terribly clear, I'm exhausted after a 12 hour day and this has been on my mind a while. I know there are stereotypes about medicine that have permeated society, but do other students feel this way about med students, and if they don't is their potential for improvement in how the population at large will view docs in the future? It does seem at the moment that docs are perceived as overpaid ego jockeys.

Thanks for any thoughts all!
 
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MajorBubblez said:
Hey everyone,

I've been reading a lot of articles regarding attitudes towards physicians, be it from nurses/PAs/patients etc. I'd also like to really emphasize that 'm not here to start any kind of flame war.

However, I will be starting medical school next fall and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share their experiences working with other groups. I know some med schools have courses/programs designed to integrate different groups in a healthcare setting, but does anyone know how pharm students/nursing students/etc. view medical students? I do believe that every member is a valued component of the healthcare team, but does this view translate in the real world setting?

Sorry if that isn't terribly clear, I'm exhausted after a 12 hour day and this has been on my mind a while. I know there are stereotypes about medicine that have permeated society, but do other students feel this way about med students, and if they don't is their potential for improvement in how the population at large will view docs in the future? It does seem at the moment that docs are perceived as overpaid ego jockeys.

Thanks for any thoughts all!
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How do they view medical students? Who knows, we don't talk to them. Snark aside, the classmates I have gotten to know are so focused on what we're trying to do we don't really have time to invest in getting to know the other students outside of our program.
 
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Honestly, I believe it's more dependent on the individual, and how they interact with their environment than whether or not they're a physician, or PA or whatever. I've met many doctors who get along great with the staff and are well respected, but they also know how to communicate and are great people in general. I've also heard others doctors being complained about because they were dinguses, or couldn't work well with others.
 
MajorBubblez said:
Hey everyone,

I've been reading a lot of articles regarding attitudes towards physicians, be it from nurses/PAs/patients etc. I'd also like to really emphasize that 'm not here to start any kind of flame war.

Sorry if that isn't terribly clear, I'm exhausted after a 12 hour day and this has been on my mind a while. I know there are stereotypes about medicine that have permeated society, but do other students feel this way about med students, and if they don't is their potential for improvement in how the population at large will view docs in the future? It does seem at the moment that docs are perceived as overpaid ego jockeys.

Thanks for any thoughts all!
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That is the sentiment I have noticed from many people inside and outside of healthcare...Contrary to the popular sentiment in SDN, it is not the poor so much that don't like physicians, it's people from the middle class with BA/BS and master degree that are stuck in jobs paying them 40k-7ok per year. They feel like physicians are overpaid ego jockeys (to borrow your terms)... I have noticed this sentiment from extended family members and friends inside and outside of healthcare... You always hear sentence like this from these people... 'I have a BS or master degree; I could have been a physician if I wanted to. I don't understand why they pay them so much.' The media does not help us either with constant stories about physician salary.
 
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giantswing said:
The exception to this being if you're a woman. If thats the case then a good portion of them will hate your guts and may try to make life miserable, especially if it's in the or.
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Wonk wonk!

That's a little intimidating. I'm thinking that medical training forces you to become a more confrontational and/or assertive person after hearing stories from my med student friends about the variable treatment they've received from people in the hospital.
 
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FutureSunnyDoc said:
Wonk wonk!

That's a little intimidating. I'm thinking that medical training forces you to become a more confrontational person after hearing stories from my med student friends about the variable treatment they've received from people in the hospital.
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As a med student and an intern, confrontational is the LAST thing you should be. Ever.

oops, eta: last. LAST!!
 
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I have a couple pharm students rotating with my team right now; we get along fine. Try to think of them as people like you just trying to get by in the hospital, instead of a different group altogether.
 
MajorBubblez said:
Hey everyone,

I've been reading a lot of articles regarding attitudes towards physicians, be it from nurses/PAs/patients etc. I'd also like to really emphasize that 'm not here to start any kind of flame war.

However, I will be starting medical school next fall and I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share their experiences working with other groups. I know some med schools have courses/programs designed to integrate different groups in a healthcare setting, but does anyone know how pharm students/nursing students/etc. view medical students? I do believe that every member is a valued component of the healthcare team, but does this view translate in the real world setting?

Sorry if that isn't terribly clear, I'm exhausted after a 12 hour day and this has been on my mind a while. I know there are stereotypes about medicine that have permeated society, but do other students feel this way about med students, and if they don't is their potential for improvement in how the population at large will view docs in the future? It does seem at the moment that docs are perceived as overpaid ego jockeys.

Thanks for any thoughts all!
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Everyone has their role in healthcare, and whether or not you think yours is more important is what creates tensions. Nurses and pharmacy students are patient-centered as you should be, but they care "more" about what they need to contribute to the team. As a new medical student, you'll realize that you can't possibly know everything and the role that ancillary members of the healthcare team play will be invaluable later. So let everyone around you learn. Ultimately this will translate to better patient care.

Just keep things light and real. If you're nice to others there is no rational reason they should mistreat you (and if they do it's on them, right?).
 
I think if you told the average guy on the street they'd be like "oh wow nice good for you." Other professions probably view them the same.
 
I've gotten along well with pharmacy students. Pa students have been fine. Nursing students from other schools have all been good but some of the ones from my school are med school rejects and want to be nps. Real inferiority complexes, talking about how great nps are and a bizarre desire to compete which can be annoying. Interestingly all the nps I've met have been lovely
 
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