Baptist University vs KansasCOM vs LMUDCOM

[bigblubba]

trying to weigh my options before putting in deposit. any help and feedback would be great. Both are OOS for me. KansasCOM is 10 hrs away driving and baptist is 8 hrs away. I dont know what i want to do but i dont want to limit myself, so which ever school will allow me to get a competitive residency. there might be a few more pros or cons but these are the ones i can remember right now. if anyone has anything to add please let me know.

KansasCOM

pros:

• still new but a bit older (oldest class is 3rd years now)
• wichita cheaper to live
• lectures not mandatory (this seems huge)
• P/F

cons:

• slight more expensive: 58k year
• kinda of the middle of no where
• rotations seem weaker
• board pass rate 74%

BUCOM

pros:

• the school is in the medical district, surrounded by hospitals
• Clinical hasn’t happened yet, but the sites look very promising
• connected to Baptist health systems which has their own residency
• may have more opportunities for clinical research
• I think I might prefer Memphis over wichita
• affiliated residencys in Family Medicine, Internal Medicine, OB/GYN, Radiology, and General Surgery.
• slight cheaper (52K year)

cons:

• mandatory lectures
• graded (no P/F)
• new school with no scores or match list, inaugural class was last year so ill be second year.

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[CBass2288]

i think the P/F is hue as well as non-mandatory lectures. although BUCOM is not totally mandatory from what i've heard. although kansasCOM does have board pass rates since they're a few years newer, their numbers aren't great. their strength basically lies in the P/F imo. BUCOM's massive strength is the rotations and affiliated hospitals. that's massive for any school, let alone a DO. their weakness is graded curriculum, and no boards data.

 

[bigblubba]

i am OOS for all 3. each is about 9 hours from my place.



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[Hollow Knight]

Just here to write my obligatory “LMU is a post apocalyptic hellscape” post. Carry one. Don’t attend that med school

 

[bigblubba]

thanks. do you attend there? also for anyone reading this post please rank the 3 schools from best to worst

Just here to write my obligatory “LMU is a post apocalyptic hellscape” post. Carry one. Don’t attend that med schoo

 

[Wolf77x]

Just here to write my obligatory “LMU is a post apocalyptic hellscape” post. Carry one. Don’t attend that med school

Damn is it really that bad?

 

[Hollow Knight]

thanks. do you attend there? also for anyone reading this post please rank the 3 schools from best to worst

I'm not familiar with the other two schools so I can't rank the three. I have friends who have gone to LMU, and I even know one of their faculty. It's just a bad institution. Super stressful, lots of people fail out. Most importantly, the training just isn't good- I rotated with one of their students recently and he was telling me that on his Internal Medicine rotation he did not see or present patients or write notes, he just shadowed like a premed student the whole rotation.

You'll probably match if you just show up and pass your boards, but you won't be ready for residency at all, and it'll be a stressful 4 years.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Damn is it really that bad?

See my comment above, but yes. Those docs catch up in residency ( at least the ones I've worked with), but it's a scam of an institution. You'd think with the money they charge they could hire better professors/get actual clinicals

 

[Wolf77x]

I'm not familiar with the other two schools so I can't rank the three. I have friends who have gone to LMU, and I even know one of their faculty. It's just a bad institution. Super stressful, lots of people fail out. Most importantly, the training just isn't good- I rotated with one of their students recently and he was telling me that on his Internal Medicine rotation he did not see or present patients or write notes, he just shadowed like a premed student the whole rotation.

You'll probably match if you just show up and pass your boards, but you won't be ready for residency at all, and it'll be a stressful 4 years.

Has anyone had good rotations? Heard they’re a mixed bag. Also that seems like the preceptors fault as well.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Has anyone had good rotations? Heard they’re a mixed bag. Also that seems like the preceptors fault as well.

Maybe most DO schools are like this, in which case good luck I guess. My friends (and attendings) who went to VCOM were very well-trained, but I only have friends at a handful of places.

I just figured LMU was exceptionally bad. Regardless, that's unacceptable. Any school with rotations like that shouldn't be accredited. Eventually, you will be responsible for human lives.......

but my info comes from a small sample size of LMU students I've met who hated it. Unless they're liars though, again, that's just not acceptable.

Also the interns we get from LMU are universally terrible (but again, small sample size)