Barely passed step 1 and step 2, any chance for gen surg

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I barely passed my board exams, I did mediocre in 1st two years. I was wondering if getting a surgery residency spot was out of range for me? I did good on rotation, mostly honors. I have good recs, none from program directors but good letters nonetheless. What are my chances of matching at a DO or MD residency position? Any help would be great.
 
thats kind of an odd question..
post your exact stats for more help.
are you an img? are you a do or md?
etc..
scores?
 
Just imagine the minimum passing score, and I am slightly above that. This is probably the wrong place to post this question. I should try the residency forum.
 
hey indymed....

we can only help u if you post your score ...... we need to know exactly what u got ..... if u don't these ppl on this forum won't help u.....u'd jus be wasting ppl's time....

so just put up ur score ..... we don't know who u r nor where exactly u r so these's no shame in this thing.... it's a hard exam (both step 1 and 2) ....not everyone has been lucky enough to get an easy exam.....it's jus the draw of the ball ....if u get a hard or soft one...just play it to your best....

U getting all those honors and barely passing step 1 and 2 is hard....i know, i've been there but look on the bright side alot of ppl don't even pass both steps and have to repeat ...so just thank God, Allah, Zeus, Buddha, Shiva or whoever ....that u passed.......

remember no shame here
 
....not everyone has been lucky enough to get an easy exam...

I am sure there are a few people who got an easy exam, but the vast majority do well because they studied hard/the right way for it, are intelligent and don't whine about other people getting "lucky" with easy exams just because you might be a little bitter about your own low score. Don't belittle other peoples achievements.
 
I am not belittling anyone

I'm jus saying that Indymed should jus state his score.....

Instead of beating around the bush....
 
Have no worries, Indy Med.

Most of the people that are hanging around these forums are overachievers 😉, myself not included, I am actually an underachiever 🙂 But that's not a bad thing, it just means I am capable of even more than the good amount I have done!

At any rate, General Surgery is becoming more and more in demand these days, contrary to what people are going to tell you. And aside from board scores, which are only 1 of the 3 things you'll really be evaluated on, your performance in rotations is the most important.

What you need to do, if you havent already, is do A LOT of 4th year Sub internships in surgery and really get in with a bunch of docs. The best way to guage your performance in a surgical rotation is if you're making your Attendings' lives easier. And the more you do for them without them asking, the more they'll take your side when it comes time to pop the question (that is, asking for a recommendation, of course).

From what I hear, there is an EXCESSIVE availability of General Surgery Internships available, contrary to popular belief, and the paranoia that a lot of people on here will have you believe. You made it into med-school. And the old addage is certainly true, that that was the toughest part of medical school, and your career in general. If you go out there and really promote yourself properly, you'll get that Gen Surge Residency you want without that beautiful board score. Board scores are only skin deep... And anyone in surgery will tell you, it's better to be lucky than good... sometimes...
 
Hey my scores: step 1:419
step 2:409

I know hat sucks and Im really not an idiot. Im also not complaining, I studied hard, and did my best. Just had a few bad days. I know subI is the way to go, but is it possible at all to get a spot? I am applying mostly to DO residencies.
 
Are those your NBME scores????

we wanted to know your USMLE Step 1 and step 2 true scores
 
Are those your NBME scores????

we wanted to know your USMLE Step 1 and step 2 true scores

Those are Indymed's COMLEX scores (400 is minimum passing, 500 is national average). It doesn't look like indy took the USMLE.

Btw, for Indymed... a way to greatly increase your options is to take the USMLE Step 1. Of course, that assumes that you do well on the USMLE (read score at or above the national average).
 
IndyMed I think anything is possible as long as your head and heart are in the right place. So good luck and just keep working hard and let your work do the talking for you.
 
Thanks for the well wishes. I guess I'll see what happens. I have good recs, good rotation grades, the only weak spot is my board scores so I guess I just need some luck.
 
You know what I think you should do, indymed?

Take the USMLE Step 1 and 2. ACE THEM. I'm talking >250 on both... Then, when you apply to all these residencies, tell the directors and admissions groups, etc, how much harder the COMLEX is than the USMLE...

It'll help the rest of us DO students out quite a bit. Also, from my experience, the COMLEX was tougher than the USMLE... at least while taking the exam... The USMLE was an easier day... though my percentile scores were pretty much the same for both...
 
You know what I think you should do, indymed?

Take the USMLE Step 1 and 2. ACE THEM. I'm talking >250 on both... Then, when you apply to all these residencies, tell the directors and admissions groups, etc, how much harder the COMLEX is than the USMLE...

It'll help the rest of us DO students out quite a bit. Also, from my experience, the COMLEX was tougher than the USMLE... at least while taking the exam... The USMLE was an easier day... though my percentile scores were pretty much the same for both...

Not to sound discouraging, but gunning for 250+ after barely squeaking past COMLEX isn't very realistic. In fact, you need to consider the possibility of failing the USMLE, which would be a disaster.

However, shooting for the national average on USMLE is a reachable goal for anyone... and I think accomplishing this would help considerably. In the Step I forum, you'll find a lot of solid diagnostic tools that can measure your progress and warn you ahead of time of the likelihood of failure. Just my 2 cents.
 
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