Baylor psychiatry

[doctaroo]

I'm trying to get a feel for what this program is like. Is it a mid or upper tier program?
I've read reviews and the website extensively; just haven't been able to gage much about its quality.

I know that Menninger clinic is famous, but with respect to residency training, I'm not sure if it necessarily means much. 😀

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[TexasPhysician]

Not upper tier. It isn't top 3 most competitive within the state. Gabbard may have left as well. I'd talk to current residents to see if things have changed. Previously they had a bit of resident turnover.

 

[mkeguy]

i interviewed there last year. youll get a good education there. not sure what you mean by "tier"s. youll be well trained there and see more than you would most places due to volume. they make no secret its not the cushiest psych program.

menninger seemed like a unique training opportunity but not enough i wanted to train there. i kinda got the vibe that its a lot of midlife crises and angsty teens of rich people.

nice faculty from my interview experience.

 

[doctaroo]

Thanks for the replies. Helps alot! I guess I'll learn more on interview day!

 

[klonopin]

Not upper tier. It isn't top 3 most competitive within the state. Gabbard may have left as well. I'd talk to current residents to see if things have changed. Previously they had a bit of resident turnover.

Which ones are more competitive then? And how is that determined?

Baylor is probably the only Texas program that people in places like New York might possibly know by name. So if you have an interest in working in any other part of the country after residency, that could make a difference. However I believe the program is known for having rather heavy clinical demands. They work at multiple hospitals with high patient volumes.

 

[TexasPhysician]

Which ones are more competitive then? And how is that determined?

Baylor is probably the only Texas program that people in places like New York might possibly know by name. So if you have an interest in working in any other part of the country after residency, that could make a difference. However I believe the program is known for having rather heavy clinical demands. They work at multiple hospitals with high patient volumes.

Most competitive meaning first choice of applicants. Highest board scores, AMG's, etc. In Texas, UTSW and UTMB lead the pack. UT-SA and Texas A&M are probably closest behind. Many TX applicants avoid Baylor. They have fellowships going unfilled years in a row.

Baylor is high volume - correct. Some believe too high initiating residents there to transfer out. They lost their top faculty to private practice. I'm not going to voice all the reasons why friends have left there.

Just because a name is well recognized, doesn't mean it's a good program. Baylor has an excellent med school, but many of their residency programs aren't held in high regards.

 

[klonopin]

Most competitive meaning first choice of applicants. Highest board scores, AMG's, etc. In Texas, UTSW and UTMB lead the pack. UT-SA and Texas A&M are probably closest behind. Many TX applicants avoid Baylor. They have fellowships going unfilled years in a row.

Baylor is high volume - correct. Some believe too high initiating residents there to transfer out. They lost their top faculty to private practice. I'm not going to voice all the reasons why friends have left there.

Just because a name is well recognized, doesn't mean it's a good program. Baylor has an excellent med school, but many of their residency programs aren't held in high regards.

Where are you obtaining the data on the board scores of the applicants who apply and match at these programs? I can't even find that out about my own program...

I would argue that merely being popular among Texas applicants is not really any more an indication of a program's quality than its name being recognized nationwide. I don't know much about the programs you mentioned other than UTSW, but I'd want to know what makes these programs better, and what makes Baylor worse.

High volume is one of those things that some people will say make a program worse, and other people will say make a program better. So that could go either way.

I believe UTSW has better research opportunities, if that is important.

 

[TexasPhysician]

Where are you obtaining the data on the board scores of the applicants who apply and match at these programs? I can't even find that out about my own program...

I would argue that merely being popular among Texas applicants is not really any more an indication of a program's quality than its name being recognized nationwide. I don't know much about the programs you mentioned other than UTSW, but I'd want to know what makes these programs better, and what makes Baylor worse.

Texas people know the strengths of their own programs better than most. When you see that people won't apply somewhere and a program's own applicants go elsewhere, it isn't usually a good sign. I'm not saying Baylor isn't a decent place to train though (I don't train there so I wouldn't know), but it isn't competitive amongst AMG's. I'd argue that most places are good enough quality to train - they are accredited after all.

Some programs have residents actively involved in decision making of incoming interns. Others don't. It also isn't impossible to find out where they match. A surplus of FMG's is also not usually a sign of high competition.

 

[2tall]

absurdly peculiar