Being realistic about life after dental school?

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Now that most of us have an acceptance in hand, and are deciding where to go/waiting on financial aid... has anyone else thought about life after dental school? This may be a bit premature but what is the likelihood of being able to buy your own apartment or used car after going to say, NYUCD, and having debt of close to 500K? I realize we can all do these things in our lifetime, but can I, with that much debt, realistically afford a small 1-bedroom or something? Will the debt really cripple my lifestyle? I NEED ANSWERS
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I plan on stealing toothfairy money from my ped patients to help repay my loans
You know, I've always figured peds to be a lucrative field because most parents will always spend more on the betterment of their children than they would on themselves.
 
I feel like all anyone talks about on this forum is debt from dental school. No one here knows what your salary is going to be straight out of dental school. Everyone is different. People say new dentists make around 500 dollars a day. This topic has been discussed over and over on this forum. Focus on preparing for dental school. The better dentist you become the quicker you can pay back your loans. The best way to go further into debt is being ill-prepared for dental school and having to repeat a year. Work hard, get through dental school, and eventually the loans will get paid off.
 
I feel like all anyone talks about on this forum is debt from dental school. No one here knows what your salary is going to be straight out of dental school. Everyone is different. People say new dentists make around 500 dollars a day. This topic has been discussed over and over on this forum. Focus on preparing for dental school. The better dentist you become the quicker you can pay back your loans. The best way to go further into debt is being ill-prepared for dental school and having to repeat a year. Work hard, get through dental school, and eventually the loans will get paid off.

This horse has been beaten beyond recognition. You are asking a bunch of pre-dents; we are all about to make the same/ a similar leap as you and have no idea how it is going to turn out. Going to have to wait a few years and ask the grads of 2012-14 for the details.
 
young dentist here

1.) congrats on admission to NYU dental school. Unless if you are a vegetarian I recommend Halal Cart, long line but you could study with flashcards while waiting for good food.

2.) mathematically you could pay off the loans via the old fashioned way (what im doing now), IBR (what I'm thinking of doing), or just have the government bail you out when the dental salaries go under (hopefully the economy should not come down to this)

3.) dont work in NYC or LA, LA has a lot of HMO practices which make it difficult to earn a living there. I dont know what constitutes a small town but money can be made if you could move there

4.) if you must see the city, live near the outer suburbs and commute to work the opposite direction while everyone is driving into the city honking like crazy

5.) marry middle class/upper middle class/rich. This sounds like a taboo thing to say but a lot happy couples I have seen have both contributing to the table. As long as she/he doesnt have a lot of debt/irregular spending habits this is a good financial plan. I know my parents both have to work in order to have a good house in CA, imagine the possibilities if you're in a lower cost area.

6.) hopefuldentistry brings up some interesting points but you could only do so much in dental school, a lot of the knowledge gained actually comes after dental school but if you're willing to shadow/hustle with Oral surgeons and periodontists, you definitely have an edge as a newly grad.
 
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fire up the loan calculator and get an idea on what your monthly payment will be. check the 5-10-20-30 year plans. Go to an accountant if you feel you need to.
 
there is some poster dude named Bereno, he or she has this awesome excel worksheet that calculates how much you could pay off in a 1-100+ year scenario. It doesnt take into state taxes but its as close as you can get to calculating loan debt. The excel sheet actually gave me hope when I calculated certain payments
 
there is some poster dude named Bereno, he or she has this awesome excel worksheet that calculates how much you could pay off in a 1-100+ year scenario. It doesnt take into state taxes but its as close as you can get to calculating loan debt. The excel sheet actually gave me hope when I calculated certain payments

Here is the thread you're talking about: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...tions-of-dental-school-excel-document.868931/
Very useful tool that I recommend everyone look at, especially if you're worried about finances.

Small blip: it's crazy how an anonymous forum can have such prominent figures that people can name right off the bat. 😛
 
young dentist here

1.) congrats on admission to NYU dental school. Unless if you are a vegetarian I recommend Halal Cart, long line but you could study with flashcards while waiting for good food.

2.) mathematically you could pay off the loans via the old fashioned way (what im doing now), IBR (what I'm thinking of doing), or just have the government bail you out when the dental salaries go under (hopefully the economy should not come down to this)

3.) dont work in NYC or LA, LA has a lot of HMO practices which make it difficult to earn a living there. I dont know what constitutes a small town but money can be made if you could move there

4.) if you must see the city, live near the outer suburbs and commute to work the opposite direction while everyone is driving into the city honking like crazy

5.) marry middle class/upper middle class/rich. This sounds like a taboo thing to say but a lot happy couples I have seen have both contributing to the table. As long as she/he doesnt have a lot of debt/irregular spending habits this is a good financial plan. I know my parents both have to work in order to have a good house in CA, imagine the possibilities if you're in a lower cost area.

6.) hopefuldentistry brings up some interesting points but you could only do so much in dental school, a lot of the knowledge gained actually comes after dental school but if you're willing to shadow/hustle with Oral surgeons and periodontists, you definitely have an edge as a newly grad.
Thanks for a great post, and thank you for the congratulatory remark 😀
Yeah, I'm looking into getting married around 30 to someone in the working class, something I'll think about later ofc.

As far as living in NYC, I was just thinking about living with my parents until I'm 30 anyways so maybe that'll help, if that option doesn't work out, maybe buy a studio in Queens, NY.

I really hope I can pay off my loans relatively quick (8-10 years after graduating).
 
Lol, if you are going to use the excel sheet, be sure to be realistic about the MISC expenses and stuff like that. Hope it helps 🙂
 
there is some poster dude named Bereno, he or she has this awesome excel worksheet that calculates how much you could pay off in a 1-100+ year scenario. It doesnt take into state taxes but its as close as you can get to calculating loan debt. The excel sheet actually gave me hope when I calculated certain payments

I added an area called auxiliary taxes (or something like that) so that you can add state taxes a little easier. Just an FYI.
 
Is this even an option? 😵

wishful thinking but its best to move on and pay. Keep in mind the typical college grad doesnt have any assets (or few), so I would be curious to know what the government would take from you if you could not pay loans.

Another thing to keep in mind, is that there is 3% default rate on loans right now (cant find the link to that number which could be understated too), thats probably with lower tuition than what many here face today but it would have to go much higher before the government/public does something about it
 
I would be curious to know what the government would take from you if you could not pay loans.
Defaulting on loans in the US is very dangerous. Not only you'll have bad credits, the gov. will take from your paychecks that you get from ANY job. In order to support yourself (and perhaps family), you'll need to have a job somehow.
It's gonna get worse until it (might) get better: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/10/pell-cuts-cromnibus_n_6299092.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
 
Move out of the country after graduating and practice elsewhere and never pay back loans...

I kid of course but is that even possible or would you be hunted down overseas?
 
Move out of the country after graduating and practice elsewhere and never pay back loans...
I kid of course but is that even possible or would you be hunted down overseas?
If you give up your US citizenship and join another citizenship then you're safe.
 
If you give up your US citizenship and join another citizenship then you're safe.
Wow, that's crazy to think someone could take out 500k worth of loans and get a great dental education and just practice elsewhere lol
 
Move out of the country after graduating and practice elsewhere and never pay back loans...

I kid of course but is that even possible or would you be hunted down overseas?

People do it more often than you think. I used to know guy that was in debt for over 50k getting a masters in music (lol) and he fled to Thailand. You probably would be hunted down at one point or another if you left to Canada or the EU or some other country that the US has pull in. But honestly it would stink to not live in a 1st world country, you gotta have a degree in something real useless and a ton of debt and no job prospects to even consider it worth it to defect in such a manner.

If you give up your US citizenship and join another citizenship then you're safe.
It is surprisingly hard and costly to renounce your US citizenship, at least according to a few older guys I know.
 
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