Best atlas for pathology residents

[ravisingh007]

Which is the best atlas afip series or amirsys .what about who fasciles .how do these compare with individual books like ezinger,fletcher,blaustien .

One more question do afip CDs contain everything that is given in there respective books.which is a enter buy CDs of books

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[LoaLoa]

Might just be me, but I rarely use the fascicles. I use my other books all the time.

In my humble opinion, particularly for a trainee, the major subject-area textbooks would be much more readable and practical.

 

[ravisingh007]

Can u tell me the specific differences u felt reading each

 

[LoaLoa]

Can u tell me the specific differences u felt reading each

Really? Why don't you flip through them and look for yourself?

 

[ravisingh007]

My college does not have amirsys and afip.i live in india.pathology doe not have that much value.we have only general pathology no specilisation except in hematopathology that also just around 10 seats in whole india.

 

[LoaLoa]

Since there is at least a small chance you may not be trolling......Regarding whether you should buy AFIP fascicles, general reference texts, or WHO Classification books, it depends on the subject area of interest.

If my intention was to build a general reference library, starting from scratch, that'd be sufficient for >99% of what a general pathologist needs, I'd buy the following--preferably in electronic format, where available:

• Rosai and Ackerman's Surgical Pathology. This book alone has 90% of what you need. If I had to pick one, this would be it.
• Blaustein's Pathology of the Female Genital Tract
• Edzinger and Weiss's Soft Tissue Tumors
• McKee's Pathology of the Skin
• Cibas's Cytology: Diagnostic Principles and Clinical Correlates
• WHO Hematopathology book. Skip the other WHO books unless you have extra cash.
• Katzenstein's surgical pathology of non-neoplastic lung diseases
• Lefkowich's Liver biopsy interpretation
• If I had any money left I'd buy:
  • Fletcher's Diagnostic Histopathology of Tumors (if you do a lot of tumor cases.)
  • Russell and Rubenstein CNS pathology book

The AFIP fascicles are great for identifying rare entities, but I wouldn't buy them unless I had a very solid general reference library already and had money to spend. In my view, the Amirsys products are nice, but again, wouldn't buy them unless I had everything else. The WHO Classification books vary widely in their quality and usefulness for daily practice.

 

[Over9000]

Since there is at least a small chance you may not be trolling......Regarding whether you should buy AFIP fascicles, general reference texts, or WHO Classification books, it depends on the subject area of interest.

If my intention was to build a general reference library, starting from scratch, that'd be sufficient for >99% of what a general pathologist needs, I'd buy the following--preferably in electronic format, where available:

• Rosai and Ackerman's Surgical Pathology. This book alone has 90% of what you need. If I had to pick one, this would be it.
• Blaustein's Pathology of the Female Genital Tract
• Edzinger and Weiss's Soft Tissue Tumors
• McKee's Pathology of the Skin
• Cibas's Cytology: Diagnostic Principles and Clinical Correlates
• WHO Hematopathology book. Skip the other WHO books unless you have extra cash.
• Katzenstein's surgical pathology of non-neoplastic lung diseases
• Lefkowich's Liver biopsy interpretation
• If I had any money left I'd buy:
  • Fletcher's Diagnostic Histopathology of Tumors (if you do a lot of tumor cases.)
  • Russell and Rubenstein CNS pathology book

The AFIP fascicles are great for identifying rare entities, but I wouldn't buy them unless I had a very solid general reference library already and had money to spend. In my view, the Amirsys products are nice, but again, wouldn't buy them unless I had everything else. The WHO Classification books vary widely in their quality and usefulness for daily practice.

I suppose every pathologist has different professional tastes when it comes to books, because I absolutely cannot stand the Rosai book. The pictures are nice, yet few and far between, and the prose is long-winded and impractical. I also don't like Sternberg that much, though it has more practical usefulness than Rosai if you can get past the typos.

Blaustein is a wonderful book. That might be the best surgical pathology book on the market.

The WHO website has most of the WHO books available for free download. Some of the newer editions, like the breast one, are not free, but the older ones are. Free ain't a bad price for some of those.

I love the Amirsys books. Those are my go-to books for basically everything. The pictures are excellent (there are arrows!), the wording is concise, and explanations for differences between diagnostic entities are generally clear. They're written for the diagnostic pathologist, not the academic, and that's why I love them. However, downsides are that the neuropathology book doesn't have a lot of stuff on non-neoplastic brain, and there is no placenta chapter in the gyne book (OMG).

 

[Pollux]

I second the Amirsys series. There is no placenta in the GYN book because they have one specifically dedicated to placenta that is coming out soon. http://www.amirsyspublishing.com/books/coming-soon/dp-placenta/

 

[LoaLoa]

I second the Amirsys series. There is no placenta in the GYN book because they have one specifically dedicated to placenta that is coming out soon. http://www.amirsyspublishing.com/books/coming-soon/dp-placenta/

Are those Amirsys books new? I'm not familiar with that series, but from what you guys are saying they're great. For some reason, I was thinking of Amirsys's other products (Immunoquery, StatDx and their online pathology atlas) rather than their printed books when I wrote my answer. Getting old I guess.

And Over9000, I agree that Rosai has way too many words. It's just the lesser of two evils when compared to Sternberg, which I found to be a bit of a mess.

 

[Over9000]

Are those Amirsys books new? I'm not familiar with that series, but from what you guys are saying they're great. For some reason, I was thinking of Amirsys's other products (Immunoquery, StatDx and their online pathology atlas) rather than their printed books when I wrote my answer. Getting old I guess.

And Over9000, I agree that Rosai has way too many words. It's just the lesser of two evils when compared to Sternberg, which I found to be a bit of a mess.

Rosai likes to write as if to prove to people how much he knows; one can read entire pages on Rosai and walk away with no useful information. Sternberg is edited terribly, and some chapters are disasters, not to mention the photographs are of poor quality.

I would suggest that new residents get a grasp on Molavi, and then turn to subspecialty books and the Amirsys DP series from that point onward.

The DP books have been out for a few years, and they surpass most other books on the market. They're expensive, but the expense is justifiable given the quality of the publications.

 

[ravisingh007]

I agree with over 9000.i found microscopy good in sternberg but theory better in rosai. So I combined stacey emills hitology with rosai .most of my seniors like grays more than koss for cytology.and thanks for afip advice.lets see the new edition of stenberg coming in feb 2015 .amisrys series are great .I have normal histology but it's quite expensive costing a lot for a few hundred pages sometimes I can get individual books like ezinger for a little more price.so was confused .

 

[Euchromatin]

I would suggest that new residents get a grasp on Molavi, and then turn to subspecialty books and the Amirsys DP series from that point onward.

I agree with this. I never really liked Sternberg OR Rosai very much. Also, for me personally, I never found sitting and reading pathology textbooks, outside of looking things up for a particular case I was working up or as I was following along with a structured board review lecture or something, to be a very effective learning tool.

I used Molavi and pictures from websites (Path Outlines, Webpathology, etc.) a lot early in first year. Then I moved to subspecialty books and later in residency would often go to the primary medical literature too. I personally like Crum for gyn, Koerner's "diagnostic problems in breast pathology," Odze for GI and the nontumor AFIP fascicle for placenta. I also have some books in the expert consult/"foundations in diagnostic pathology" series (I particularly like the bone/soft tissue, head and neck and dermpath books in this series), some of the black Amirsys "diagnostic pathology" series and a few of the "biopsy interpretation" series. Once I have the diagnosis more or less hashed out, I also find the CAP cancer checklists and/or the newest edition WHO book can sometimes be helpful if you want to verify what diagnostic entities/categories they currently have separated out or grouped together and what the current grading scheme/other relevant details are, if applicable.

I found the Bethesda guidelines for thyroid and gyn cytology fairly useful in training. I don't have strong feelings regarding Cibas vs. DeMay. WHO hemepath is a necessity, but probably not the best book for learning the subject during residency...it isn't really my favorite area so I'm not sure which books would be "best" for that (probably depends on whether you want coverage of non-neoplastic hematology, hemepath, lymph nodes, etc. or all of them)

 

[LoaLoa]

Psht. Molavi.....They didn't have such luxuries when I trained. It was Rosai, Sternberg, or, if you were a wierdo, Wiedner. You kids get off my lawn.

 

[deleted314957]

Psht. Molavi.....They didn't have such luxuries when I trained. It was Rosai, Sternberg, or, if you were a wierdo, Wiedner. You kids get off my lawn.

a new 4 volume Silverberg ( with mark wick and livolsi, et al) is coming out in march 2015 for $450. it is surg path and cyto path. i always liked silverberg. i think the most recent was 2005. first came out in the early 80's i believe

 

[Denmark]

I like some Afip; kidney (1), prostate (14) and testis (18).
Some are in between, salivary gland, ENT and PNS.
Two are bad, tunors of bone and joint (2) and breast pathology.

The other I have not read.

From the 3 serie the book about soft tissue is "The book" about soft tissue pathogy. Better than Enzinger.

The new soft tissue book will come soon, hopefully it is like the book from the 3th serie. The parts about diffentialndiagnosis is great.