Best specialty to work with Children with Disabilties?

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Hello! Long time creeper, first time poster. Not really sure if I'm posting this in the right place. I know I have a long way to go before I need to worry about specialties and all that but I was really just curious??

What is the best route to work with children with disabilities(autism, Down syndrome, etc) ?? I grew up around the population (mother and sister are bother special Ed teachers) so it's something I'm really interested in.

So what specialty works most closely with these groups? Behavioral/dev peds? Child Neurology?? Other?

Thanks for reading

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A resident I work with was literally just talking about how she wants to go into peds neuro development (or something like that) once she's done with her general peds residency because she really enjoys working with special needs kids. So there's def a niche for that. There are probably other similar areas like you mentioned.
 
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And I assume she already did that rotation and liked it.
 
One of my friends had a child with cerebral palsy. She said that from 0-12 years, they were patients in every department of the local children's hospital. Kids with disabilities are high utilizers of all pediatric specialties. Head toward pediatrics and see what makes your heart sing. It well can be that pediatric specialties will change in the next 10 years so that what seems like a reasonable choice now will be less relevant in the future.
 
I personally know someone who was a 2 lb baby, is now 8 years old. Has a peds ophthy, ped neurosurgeon, peds urologist, and PMR they see regularly.

Like LizzyM said, lots of opportunities to help kids with disabilities in most peds specialty, as well as primary care. My dad is a child psychiatrist, and he sees a lot of developmentally disabled kids.
 
Med-peds could also be interesting. More disabled children are living into adulthood and aren't necessarily seeing physicians who focus on disabled adults. Med-peds can let you provide a continuity of care from childhood to old age
 
Hello! Long time creeper, first time poster. Not really sure if I'm posting this in the right place. I know I have a long way to go before I need to worry about specialties and all that but I was really just curious??

What is the best route to work with children with disabilities(autism, Down syndrome, etc) ?? I grew up around the population (mother and sister are bother special Ed teachers) so it's something I'm really interested in.

So what specialty works most closely with these groups? Behavioral/dev peds? Child Neurology?? Other?

Thanks for reading

Basically any field within the pediatrics you will get to work with kids with special needs. If you truly like working with children, then go ahead and shadow a pediatrician and a subspecialist to see what opportunities might be available for you. If you are more interested in mental health, then child psychiatry will be the way to go, but it is a subspecialty under psychiatry as opposed to pediatrics.
 
I am a resident in a Neurodevelopmental Disabilities (NDD) residency, which in practice involves training in pediatrics, child neurology, and subspecialty training in neurodevelopment. While a little outdated, nddtraining.org is a good website created by the NDD residency program directors to help applicants understand what the subspecialty really is and entails. As other posters have mentioned, however, there are many specialties that treat children with disabilities (pediatrics, genetics, PM&R, child neurology, child psych, DB peds, NDD, and more) and so the path you take might depend on your perspective and how you'd like to contribute to the care of children with disabilities. NDD is unique in that it aims to understand the neurological mechanisms, and thus neurological mechanism-based treatments, of disabilities. A few of us have discussed the differences between child neurology, DB Peds, and NDD in this forum: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/child-neuro-vs-ndd-vs-peds-dbp.1125288/. I would be happy to answer any questions anyone might have or elaborate on anything further!
 
I'm a pediatric resident who is currently applying to development peds fellowships.

As said above, you are going to see these kids a lot in general pediatrics or any pediatrics specialties just from them being high-resource utilizers generally, but if you're interested particularly in working more specifically with these populations, there are several options depending on what draws you to the field. Peds neuro tends to manage seizures and hypertonicity requiring Baclofen pumps so they see a lot of CP kids, epilepsy kids that span the full spectrum in terms of development, and pseudoseizures. Rehab tends to also manage hypertonicity as well as getting kids in a state where they can be discharged home safely (everything from meeting PT/OT/ST goals to tolerating feeds to having home equipment to manage conditions at home), and they tend to see more accidents/acute injuries as well as brain injuries/surgeries or CP. NDD and DBP have some different philosophies on approach to conditions and treatment, but NDD programs actually often have DBP fellowships (can't speak a ton to NDD since my med school and residency had DBP programs). DBP sees kids with a wide variety of developmental and behavioral issues, especially autism, learning disorders, intellectual disability, ADHD, and other issues that masquerade as one of these (including hearing disorders, articulation disorders, ODD, anxiety, depression, etc), and they tend to manage psych medications as well as help with behavioral modification, bridge a gap with schools, and get families plugged into appropriate therapies and resources. Psychiatry tends to do more medication management than true therapy or much behavior management (they tend to defer to psychology for those), and peds psych sees a lot of depression/suicide attempts, ODD, ADHD, and a fair amount of other psych disorders (don't really see a ton of autism or Trisomy 21 unless they are doing med management for severe behavior issues). Genetics sees Trisomy 21 obviously as well as other genetic conditions or children with dysmorphic features; even though autistic children often get microarrays, they are often ordered by DBPs or other specialists rather than seeing genetics (unless something is abnormal on the microarray).
 
Totally agree with above. Admittedly I went back on forth a lot on NDD vs DB peds. DB Peds and NDD do vary a bit in philosophy (the history of both subspecialty creation, which occurred around the same time in early 2000s, is interesting and I attached a few PDFs that describe this), but also in training path. NDD residents/fellows complete a full child neurology residency and obtain subspecialty training in development on top of that, so the perspective of an NDD graduate will be heavily neurological. In some ways, NDD can be considered like child neurology "plus" type of training where the plus refers to an extra layer of developmental training -- weaved, rather than stacked, throughout the longevity of the other training -- on top of child neurology training. At least in my opinion, the hope of NDD training is to interrogate neurological mechanisms for these disabilities so as to develop the next wave of modern therapeutics, whether those be pharmacological or behavioral, that will specifically target neurological substrates. In the end, however, you would be a fully trained child neurologist (that can take child neurology call) with developmental subspecialization (similar to an epileptologist who has child neurology training and then further epilepsy subspecialty training following that). DB Peds trainees complete thorough developmental training following full pediatrics training (NDD residents complete an accelerated, albeit shortened, pediatrics training of only 2 years versus the standard 3 years). DB Peds graduates have huge strengths in coordinating care. They don't receive neurological training, but that of and in itself is in no way prohibitive in successfully treating of children with disabilities.

Here are two PDFs that help get at more concretely what NDD specifically aims to train you in:
http://www.abpn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/NDDCERT2015-blueprint1.pdf
http://www.abpn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/2011_core_NDD_MREE.pdf

As of right now there are 8 NDD programs. A few of these institutions (Boston Children's, Texas Children's, OHSU) have both DB Peds and NDD, while the remainder (Hopkins/Kennedy Krieger, Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh, UT Southwestern, Children's National, Indiana University) only have NDD programs.
You can go here (or later search for ERAS Participating Programs) to see a list of programs for both DB Peds and NDD: https://services.aamc.org/eras/erasstats/par/display8.cfm?NAV_ROW=PAR&SPEC_CD=336

In all with either type of training you can see any type of patients you want based on how you structure your practice, either at an academic center or in private practice, how you want. However, NDD training will give as comprehensive understanding of the nervous system as possible (or at least that we know about presently) and how it relates to human disease and hopefully developmental disabilities, so you just have to decide if you think that type of training would be helpful for you individually or for your patients.

I am attaching a few PDFs that help describe the history of NDD and try to get at the NDD vs DBP thing but keep in mind all of these are written by NDD folks so they may communicate some bias. Sorry if anything I wrote above is biased to; honestly just hoping to provide as much information as possible so you guys can understand the subtle differences and make an informed decision 🙂

Let me know if anyone has questions.
 

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Wow, thank y'all so much. This is very interesting stuff. If I have any questions I know who to come too!
 
I volunteer at an MDA summer camp every summer and they have a wonderful pediatric neurologist on staff who works mostly with kids who have MD disorders. Seems like a great specialty and the kids are wonderful.
 
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