Bio Question for those who took the DAT

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A lot of people who took the test and did breakdowns simply say the bio section is random, that you can't read "too much" bio material because its that random, and a lot have said that "a lot of what I studied for wasn't on the test" can some of you who have taken the test give some examples of what surprised you about the material covered on the exam, I fully understand what a huge topic bio is and it will almost certainly seem random when all those different subjects are put into 40 questions but please give some examples of what was left out of cliffs ap bio/destroyer/bio text books etc... that you got on the test that shocked you, and any other comments/advice/hints or anything else would be appreciated from all people who took the test regardless of your scores or whether you did a breakdown or not, thanks.

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I made a list of the testable subject material from the DAT website, and then read up on it in an intro bio book. Bio is random, but it's not really hard. I was pleasantly surprised by how easy the questions were...I guess I was expecting to have to know small details such as random enzymes from the pyruvate dehydrogenase complex 😱. Try not to over think it by memorizing useless info. Hope this helps. 😀
 
I haven't taken the DAT yet but I can say that there's nothing that cliff ap doesn't talk about, what I mean is that people think by going over cliff's ap once, twice even 3 times u can grasp all the material but in reality I don't think DAT asks questions that you've never seen in cliffs AP and Kaplans BB.
 
I know cliffs and the others do cover a lot of material, but I've searched more recent posts of test takers that do make statements like "what I studied wasn't really on the test", one example I keep reading is that people study hormones and they don't get any hormone questions (which doesn't mean I won't study hormones) but aside from that they are usually very vague about bio and when I read what they say about the test I make a lot of assumptions that they studied well, so obviously, if the person totally decided to ignore plants completely and got plant questions on the exam, I WOULD NOT think they would come on sdn and say they they were tested on random (which I can almost substitute as "weird") things, when I read that type of stuff (which I have been seeing a lot on the forum) I think its topics that are off of the usual road most people would be on, or even things that weren't covered in regular materials like a couple of people have said.
 
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this is a quote from whateveryoulike:
Bio: nothing was very representative of this section. I dont know if it was just since I had the FRAP test, but I thought atleast 1/4 of my bio questions were nowhere to be found in ANY of my reading (and I read the textbooks on top of the standard review material). when people say you really cant do too much about the bio section, theyre not kidding. the questions are THAT random. I knew endo pat, so I was really pissed off that I didnt get a single question about hormones. 😛


this is a quote from libralin:
Bio
Some questions are really easy that you will know the answer right away. Couple questions were covered in neither Kaplan BB nor Cliff Bio. Therefore, I have no idea of the answers for those questions. I skipped reading entire plants section in Cliff Bio, and it’s OK for me because there are no detailed plants questions. Most questions are basic stuff, I won’t try to memorize that much detailed such as which hormones are produced in anterior pituitary gland?

this is a quote from IdahoDoc:
BIO: 17, ouch (22 first DAT), there were a lot of questions that i wasn't sure about i mean really from left field. Not sure how i would have known to study that stuff. It was completely different then my first DAT. I used High Yield Bio and Destroyer. Both were good but again it was kinda like playing poker with a card-shark, just know way of knowing where they get there stuff from.


this is a quote from R9973:
BIO:
SOOOO RANDOM! Some of the questions were very easy, most were "average," but the really hard ones I have never even seen before in any of my studies with Kaplan or school. It really is luck of the draw. I am a Bio major with a 3.9 GPA, so I figured this would be a very easy section for me. I reviewed Kaplan's Bio, but I never truly studied hard for Bio. Honestly though, I don't think I would have done any better with the section if I studied Kaplan's Bio due to the randomness of the questions.

from all of these quotes whateveryoulike APPEARS to be the most thorough and he even said there was stuff he didn't see in his studies, I'm just wondering from all these people and others who took the test what some of those subjects might be?
 
hmm I dont know what to say but I as long as you study the topics that DAT wants u to know and read Campbell bio book, I honestly dont think they would ask anything that can not be found in Campbells bio book.
 
i read the chapter summaries from cambell's text the night before my exam (oh, and a few picture diagrams here and there)...did ok if you ask me for the time i put into it.
 
Ok, this is the truth.

Most questions are a complete joke. But there are a few that I don't think anyone could prepare for.

Stop looking into the word "random" much, it just means that some questions will be unexpected.
 
i got your standard genetics questions, evolution questions, parts of a flower, mitosis/meiosis, reproduction, anatomy and physio, organs, circulatory, nervous, and digestive system.

Then I got a question about what the structure is called at the tip of a sperm cell and i just went, 'wtf?!' I got asked general questions about reproduction and % chances of traits and stuff, and gastrula bastula, then this super-specific question about the ANATOMY of a sperm cell.

So yeah, so of it is out of left field

Oh - and I got that question wrong, I had to look it up when I got home because it stuck in my head
 
some of the random questions I had (without stating the specific question since I dont want to violate the agreement made with the ADA to secrecy of questions):

1)something related to process that an egg undergoes when a sperm cell fertilizes it. this was a VERY specific question related to processes that I didnt see mentioned in my bio book.

2)something related to a newborn babies initial breathing

3)FRAP question

there were a few others but I cant think of them off the top of my head. I would honestly recommend people learn the bio as well as possible to ensure that they will get as many of the predictable questions correct as possible. that way when the off-the-wall questions come up, and you get them wrong, your overall score isnt hurt as much. I got a 22 in Bio despite flat-out- guesses on quite a bit of random questions. I dont think I would have done this well had I not known the predictable questions so well. If you learn the expected material to the most intensive level possible, it will ensure that your bio score is determined only on how lucky you are to get as little random questions as possible. I dont think it would be wise to spend too much time learning random material since the rate of return on that kind of stuff is so low. Stick to the expected material and make sure there isnt a single area you arent 110% comfortable with. As a standard: if you cant teach it to someone else without aid of any kind then you dont know it well enough
 
I got a 29 in the bio section

the harder questions are derived from the following areas
Biochemistry
Cell Biology
Research techniques (Read up on things like PCR, Western Blots, FRAP, etc) these are all pretty standard lab techniques.
Development


Check the notes I made up for development they may help you a bit 👍

The harder bio questions expect you to not know everything but using what you do know and a bit of intelligence to make an educated guess.




Secondary oocyte released from developed Graafian follicle at ovulation.

Oocyte surrounded by same layer of granulose cells as it was within the follical
-beween the granulose cells and the eggs plasma membrane is the glycoprotein layer called the zona pellucida.

Sperm is capped by an organelle called the acrosome, which contains glycoprotein digesting enzymes.

Effects of sperm upon entering egg
1)stimulates the egg nucleus to complete second meiotic division, producing two egg nuclei, one is extruded from the egg as a second polar body. This leaves a single haploid egg nucleus.
2)Sperm penetration triggers movement in egg cytoplasm which establish the bilateral symmetry of developed animals.
3)Activation is characterized by a sharp increase in protein synthesis and an increase of metabolic activity.

Cell Cleavage-rapid divisions with no significant increase in cell size so nucleus to cytoplasma ratio increase.

When zygote reaches ~32 cells becomes a solid ball of cells know as a morula. Each individual cell of the morula is known as a blastomere.

Bastomeres continue to divide and secrete a fluid into the center of the morula, when a hollow ball of 500-2000 cells exist its known as a blastula with a fluid filled center known as a blastocoel.

The pattern of cleavage division is influenced by the presence and location of yolk.
-when egg contains little or no yoke cleave occurs throughout the whole egg as holoblastic cleavage. This pattern is still seen in ancenstors of the vertebrates such as echinoderms, tunicates, lancelets, and mammals. This holoblastic cleavage results in formation of a symmetrical blastula.

Even tho cleavage is not impeded by yolk in mammalian eggs, the inner cell mass is concentrated at one pole. Opposite this inner cell mass (across the blastula) on the outside is what is called the trophoblast.
-part of the trophoblast enters the maternal endometrium and contributes to the placenta.
-part of placenta is composed from the trophoblast and another part is composed of modified endometrial tissue called the deciduas basalis of the mothers uterus.

In mammals blastula is called a blastocyst.
-blastocyst cells are pluripotient which means they can turn into ANY cell in the body (aka stem cells), they CANNOT develop into a complete organism. The cells from the morula are totipotient, which means 1 cell can develop into a new organism.

GASTRULATION

Actin filament contractions that change the shape of the migrating cells cause an invagination of the blasula tissue. Pattern of gastrulation amoung vertebrate groups depend on the shape of the blastulas produced during cleavage.

The invagination produced is called the archenteron. This will later become the digestive gut (these cells that make up the archenteron will become endoderm dervived. The open pore to the archenteron is called the blastopore. In deuterosomes (that’s us and our friends echinodermata, hemichordate, and xenoturbellida) the blastopore becomes the anus. In protosomes however, the blastopore becomes the mouth. (I always think dodo since deudo sounds like dodo and it becomes the anus you get it, ok ok I’ll get back to work jeez).

So anyway gastrulation officially begins as the surface of the blastula invaginates into the blastocoel.

Two layer gastrula
-composed of the ectoderm (cells outside) and the endoderm (cells that formed the archenteron.

Three layer gastrula
-third layer (mesoderm) forms between the ectoderm cells and endoderm cells. Remember you build your muscle last!!! In mammals gastrulation requires the involution of surface cells into a blastopore or primitive streak, and the mesoderm is dervived from some of these involuted cells.

In mammalian gastrulation, the amniotic cavity forms within the inner cell mass and its base. Layers of ectoderm and endoderm differentiate, a primitive streak develops through which cells destined to become mesoderm migrate into the interior. The trophoblast moves away from the embryo and begins to play a role in forming the placenta.



NEURULATION

Two morphological features found only in chordates, the notochord and the hollow dorsal nerve cord, the development of the dorsal nerve cord is called neurulation.

The notochord is first visible soon after gastrulation is complete. It is a flexible rod located along the dorsal midline in the embryos of all chordates although in us its function is later replaced by the vertebral column when it developes from mesoderm.

After the notochord is in place a layer of ectodermal cells above the notochord invaginates forming a long crease called the neural groove, down the long axis of the embryo.

Once the edges of the neural groove fuse together it becomes a long hollow cylinder called the neural tube.
-so notochord comes first then the neural groove then neural tube.
-the neural tube later differentiates into the spinal cord and brain

In vertebrates just before the neural tube closes its edges pinch off to form a small strip of cells called the neural crest which becomes incorporated into the roof of the neural tube. It’s a key point of evolution between veterbrates and lesser chordates.

Ectodermal cells associated with the neural crest cells thicken into placodes, which develop into parts of the sense organs in the head.

Neural crest cells migrate toward notochord and become sensory neurons in the dorsal root ganglia, others become specialized as Schwann cells which insulate nerve fibers, others form the autonomic ganglia and the adrenal medulla, this is why cells that secrete adrenaline from the adrenal glands is so similar to the neurotransmitter nor-adrenaline from the sympathetic neurons, both these nerves and glands arise from the neural crest cells.
 



a great 40 yard dash is a 4.4, an amazing 40 is a 4.3 and epic is a 4.2 and the legend of Deion Sanders is a 4.1

Its a game of inches to get from the low to mid 20's to the upper 20's you have to step up your game to another level. Just like its a game of 10ths of a second in a 40. Alot of people in the NFL can run 4.4's and 4.3's but only a VERY select few ever see the 4.2 range.
 
my first bio question was a graph with PO2 against time, and the questions was asking me what the data was showing about the animal,
if the animal was resting
if the animal was running
if the animal was walking
etc.
simple question just it being my first one freaked me out. :scared:

it was a crazy first question, i guess meant to break my confidence and waste my time. (it did just that):scared:
 
I agree with everyone else, a lot of the bio was just really unexpected, but AP Bio book is really good and from what I hear Campbells is really good for explanations and reading the material. Hope that helps.
 
In response to whateveryoulike, the sperm question is definitely in the destroyer. I am not sure if you are referring to capacitation or acrisomal process. As for the babies breath question I am pretty sure that one is in the destroyer also. Either in a question or in the answers somewhere. CO2 stimulates a babies first breath. Had you known the destroyer better you would have gotten 2 more questions in bio correct.
 
I had this bio section, too. I got the acrosome question right! (it's a 'some' kinda like a lysosome or peroxisome, full of hydrolytic enzymes, don'tcha-know?)

But isn't it totally unethical for us to be discussing this stuff? We signed an agreement before we took the DAT to not divulge its contents, right? Sorry to be a party-pooper!
 
I use Destroyer and Campbell Bio to study for bio and I think its sufficient. I have kaplan BB but I use it for questions only rarely to study the actual topics. Destroyer questions are good and Campbell goes very indepth with topics which is really good. On the DAT if you know your stuff you are good the problem is that unlike with chemistry sections (where there the answers follow logic as a result of your knowledge of major concepts) bio has a lot of things that u just memorize and at the end of the day it's either you know it or you don't and there are a lot of things to know...:scared:
 
I didnt get any of these questions on my test, however I did get a histological slide.

It was actually pretty easy.

I think that a lot of people "freak out" and say that Bio was "Sooooo" random because there were a few really wierd questions. However, for the most part I think that the bio section is pretty straightforward.

I studies Campbells, and except for the Frap question everyone keeps talking about, I seriously think every other topic is covered in that book. It really is a great study tool.
 
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