BioOrganic vs BioChem?

[ITtoMD]

Hey guys. 8 weeks left until I leave my job and go back to school full time, yay!

As I'm planning out my classes, I need to take 2 physics, 2 OChems, and Biochem (most FL schools require it). I'm a tad confused as I see offered at UNF:
BCH 3023C - Bioorganic Chemistry
and
BCH 4033 - BioChemistry

The first doesn't have much in the way of pre-reqs, the second requires Ochem 2 and QChem (which I'm finishing up now).

My question is, any idea if the first counts as filling the Biochem requirement?

My other search had an opposite situation, where BioOrganic looked higher than BioChem.

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[rowerlauren]

Bioorganic Chemistry is much more difficult than you need to take.

Biochem and not bioorganic is what you should take for those pre-reqs.

Although that many pre-reqs is interesting... can you talk to someone in the admin who is used to pre-meds?

 

[TamarMD]

That's weird. I attend USF and we have biochem as BCH 3023 and it is classified as Intro to Biochem. I always thought that florida state school used the same course numbers for the same classes. If that were true then BCH 3023 would be the one that you need to take. However still check with your premed advisor. We also need to take chem and organic chem to get into the BCH 3023 class. You can call the bio department because BioOrganic sounds like too much work.
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[Isoprop]

you will need biochem most likely. bioorganic chem is organic chem applied to biology. biochem is the chemistry that happens inside organisms. they're actually pretty different.

 

[ITtoMD]

Yeah, see it seems like it would be what you guys are saying, but they never offer BioChem 1/2, and always offer the BioOrg Chem, and it has way fewer requirements.

I'll try talking to them which I planned on anyways, but I wasn't terribly impressed with their knowledge. I may just try calling UF or USF and see what they say.

 

[ITtoMD]

Here are the descriptions:

BioOrg Chem: The carbon chemistry of biological substances, the structure and function of biological molecules and elementary metabolism.

Bio Chem: This course introduces students to catabolic, anabolic and energetic processes in living systems. Emphasis is on the relationships between the molecular structure and the interactions of biological molecules.