Biz Skills for Pathology

[KeratinPearls]

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What biz skills are required for pathology? What classes would you recommend? We aren't taught it at our program so would like to ask those currently in practice.

 

[pathstudent]

What biz skills are required for pathology? What classes would you recommend? We aren't taught it at our program so would like to ask those currently in practice.

Biz skills are something you are born with. Either you got them or you don't. So don't fret it.

 

[LADoc00]

Pathstudent why are you pre-vet but posting here?

Just curious.

Classes you need:
Basic Accounting
Advanced Accounting
and make sure both these give the basics in xls spreadsheets. I still suck at this.

If you arent confident in your skills above, you may need to take a basic Biz Bookeeping class if there is one offered.

Tax Law and Tax Accounting, usually 1 class
Business Law
Dont be deceived, even though there is "Law" in the name, both these course are usually taught at a community college.

other classes worthwhile:
Investments including 401K/retirement design

all are obtainable at a community college for 80 - 200 bucks a class.

 

[pathstudent]

My cat got hit by a car and lived and the "lab" bill alone for a CBC and BMP was over 100. The total bill was 1500, for basically nothing. A friend of mine had a dog that got hemolytic anemia and the bill was 6000 for a couple transfusions and couple nights stay. That's why I am going pre-vet.

P.S. I told them they could keep the cat. I loved that little bugger, but I can get another cat for nothing. My friend paid the dog bill (unbelievable).

Pathstudent why are you pre-vet but posting here?

Just curious.

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[deleted314957]

My cat got hit by a car and lived and the "lab" bill alone for a CBC and BMP was over 100. The total bill was 1500, for basically nothing. A friend of mine had a dog that got hemolytic anemia and the bill was 6000 for a couple transfusions and couple nights stay. That's why I am going pre-vet.

P.S. I told them they could keep the cat. I loved that little bugger, but I can get another cat for nothing. My friend paid the dog bill (unbelievable).

about 20 years we had a vet buy a used coulter counter from us and we were talking and he was telling us how much he could charge for a cbc for there thorobread horses that were the bulk of his practice( race horse country) and i will never forget his quote---"there ain't any medicare for horses".

 

[KCShaw]

Yeah, go figure, a stable price for a given service, and you don't "have" to keep providing the service even if people don't pay or some company or government decides they'll just pay less.

 

[LADoc00]

My cat got hit by a car and lived and the "lab" bill alone for a CBC and BMP was over 100. The total bill was 1500, for basically nothing. A friend of mine had a dog that got hemolytic anemia and the bill was 6000 for a couple transfusions and couple nights stay. That's why I am going pre-vet.

P.S. I told them they could keep the cat. I loved that little bugger, but I can get another cat for nothing. My friend paid the dog bill (unbelievable).

Hold it, what?! You are dedicating your life to a profession because you were OVERCHARGED?!

If we all did that, wouldnt we all be strippers rather than physicians?

Your logic seems flawed.

What the heck was the vet going to do with your stupid cat? Seems like a total jack move. Why did you even seek care for the cat if he meant nothing to you and you didnt want to pay??

Dude, you seem like a total idiot to absolutely frank.

 

[pathstudent]

Hold it, what?! You are dedicating your life to a profession because you were OVERCHARGED?!

If we all did that, wouldnt we all be strippers rather than physicians?

Your logic seems flawed.

What the heck was the vet going to do with your stupid cat? Seems like a total jack move. Why did you even seek care for the cat if he meant nothing to you and you didnt want to pay??

Dude, you seem like a total idiot to absolutely frank.

I didn't. the cat got hit by a car and the neighbors took it to the vet. All they did was do some lab work and bandage the cat up and told me it was 1500. I tried to haggle them told them that 100 bucks was ridiculous for simple lab work. Finally I asked them "how much do you want for the cat" and they said "1500" so I said no I ain't paying that and left. Like the US govt, I don't deal with vet terrorists.

If you ever owned a pet, you would know that vets charge 20 times what it would cost for insured humans for services as a way to rip people off. Like when the cat was ready to get its nuts cut off. They tried to charge me 50 bucks to check the cats creatinine before the operation. I told them I saw the cat make a huge pee in the morning so the kidneys must be fine. The most absurd I think is pet-oncology. What a way to rip people off. A 12 year-old dog has metastitic cancer and some family is hoodwinked into paying hundreds to thousands for chemotherapy when the dog would die soon anyway. Then there is also pet accupuncture.

 

[LADoc00]

about 20 years we had a vet buy a used coulter counter from us and we were talking and he was telling us how much he could charge for a cbc for there thorobread horses that were the bulk of his practice( race horse country) and i will never forget his quote---"there ain't any medicare for horses".

I tried 5 years to ago to break into the vet path biz, pretty competitive actually.

 

[LADoc00]

I didn't. the cat got hit by a car and the neighbors took it to the vet. All they did was do some lab work and bandage the cat up and told me it was 1500. I tried to haggle them told them that 100 bucks was ridiculous for simple lab work. Finally I asked them "how much do you want for the cat" and they said "1500" so I said no I ain't paying that and left. Like the US govt, I don't deal with vet terrorists.

If you ever owned a pet, you would know that vets charge 20 times what it would cost for insured humans for services as a way to rip people off. Like when the cat was ready to get its nuts cut off. They tried to charge me 50 bucks to check the cats creatinine before the operation. I told them I saw the cat make a huge pee in the morning so the kidneys must be fine. The most absurd I think is pet-oncology. What a way to rip people off. A 12 year-old dog has metastitic cancer and some family is hoodwinked into paying hundreds to thousands for chemotherapy when the dog would die soon anyway. Then there is also pet accupuncture.

Still confused, so its all a giant con game in vet med to you, why would you then want to be part of it?

I dont see the connection between your anecdote and the desire to actually be a vet dr.

Also to correct you, a vet definitely does not charge 20x what human physicians charge for pathology and lab tests. That is patently false. I have done both.

The entire tone of your responses is fairly insulting to vet med professionals who go through massive amounts of training and debt to get hoodwinked by patients who eat the dinner and skip out on the bill.

I dont think you have the faintest clue what goes into a CBC, so Im still also confused why are you posting HERE?

That you still havent addressed.

 

[pathstudent]

Still confused, so its all a giant con game in vet med to you, why would you then want to be part of it?

I dont see the connection between your anecdote and the desire to actually be a vet dr.

Also to correct you, a vet definitely does not charge 20x what human physicians charge for pathology and lab tests. That is patently false. I have done both.

The entire tone of your responses is fairly insulting to vet med professionals who go through massive amounts of training and debt to get hoodwinked by patients who eat the dinner and skip out on the bill.

I dont think you have the faintest clue what goes into a CBC, so Im still also confused why are you posting HERE?

That you still havent addressed.

ahhhhhh....go get your dog some accupuncture. If you think spending a couple hundred checking creatinine, CBC and BMP for a puppy or kitten before they get neutered makes any sense, then you are total *****, ripe to be hussled.

I asked the head of our chem lab what it costs the lab to do a creatinine including machine cost, tech time and reagents. He said less than a nickle. So even if the vet lab has 100 times the cost they are still shooting for 1000% profit.

I also suppose the dog obedience trainers that advertise for 90 an hour is reasonable too.

 

[KluverB]

Biz-skills 101....

Business of Oncology: An Office Lab Can Turn a Tidy Profit

 

[2121115]

For Biz skills... You need to know how to please your boss. If the gastroenterologist wants you to sign out in a smaller room or for only 15% of your PC instead of 50% of your PC (like you agreed to originally) then you need to know how to say yes and thank you sir. When the urologist wants your wife to pick up his dry cleaning and personally deliver it to his posh office in the back of the building, you need to learn to look the other way and ignore it. You also need to know how to bid lower than the other pathology group in town (so if they bid to sign out a GI biopsy for $15 you need to know to bid for $10) and to know when to nip it in the bud and bid to do it for free just to see that pond scum pathologist across town not get the business.