building a residency application

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Hello,

I am pretty new here, but as a pre-med there is a lot of information out there about how to build up a good med school application (ie volunteer, clinical exp., research, etc.)

I was wondering if you guys could tell me what you all did to achieve your desired residency positions during med school. So far, all I can seem to find is getting good grades/scores. Is anything else as important as it is as a pre-med?

Any help is appreciated!
 
Not too sound harsh...but first you need to make it into medical school.

Then you can worry about residency.

Grades and Step scores are all that truly matter. Personal connections help as well.
 
Hello,

I am pretty new here, but as a pre-med there is a lot of information out there about how to build up a good med school application (ie volunteer, clinical exp., research, etc.)

I was wondering if you guys could tell me what you all did to achieve your desired residency positions during med school. So far, all I can seem to find is getting good grades/scores. Is anything else as important as it is as a pre-med?

Any help is appreciated!

As a general piece of advice, the farther you get on in your education, the less the fluffy stuff matters and the more the objective criteria counts. In college applications to the Ivies, GPA, SAT, and recommendations from schoolteachers are almost of secondary importance, because it's not that hard to do well in both; thus, the rest of the application lies in recommendations from famous people, atheltics, artistic pursuits, community service, research, etc. In med school applications, GPA and MCAT become much more important, research and clinical experience becomes much more relevant, and extracurriculars such as marathons, orchestra participation, etc. become secondary. The primary interest is - can you hack medical school?

As for residencies, the focus is really on whether you can do the job of the resident and whether you have potential for being groomed into a top researcher, policy maker, etc. Thus, the Step 1 matters a ton, since it basically tells them what you know and about your reading work ethic. MS3/4 grades and recommendations matter a ton because they tell residencies how hard you work, how efficient you are, how you get on with people, etc. The other stuff - whether you play piano, write plays, were class president, sports, member of X interest group, etc. is pretty irrelevant to the work of a resident. Research is a plus, as is concrete work in policy making, administration, and global health. Otherwise, it's about Step 1 + MS3/4 grades + recommendations + med school reputation.
 
Not too sound harsh...but first you need to make it into medical school.

Then you can worry about residency.

Grades and Step scores are all that truly matter. Personal connections help as well.

Research can help for some of the competitive fields as well.
But I agree there is really nothing the OP can do at his/her stage besides worry about getting into med school, and that in general other ECs aren't going to matter one bit.
 
Research can help for some of the competitive fields as well.
But I agree there is really nothing the OP can do at his/her stage besides worry about getting into med school, and that in general other ECs aren't going to matter one bit.

Certainly the OP just needs to concerns themselves with getting into med school first (hopefully a state school!!).

However, at my school EC's help one get AOA. Grades matter, but so do significant EC's.
 
About the only thing you can plan for right now is which school you go to.

(Later, you'll pursue letters of recommendation, grades, ECs, leadership and research, among other things. But for now....)

Keep in mind that residency programs often care about the institution you're coming from. Fair or unfair, they'll take a top tier graduate over State U quite often. (Particularly when scores and other things are equal.)
 
Keep in mind that residency programs often care about the institution you're coming from. Fair or unfair, they'll take a top tier graduate over State U quite often. (Particularly when scores and other things are equal.)

This is true for some residency programs, like the top 10 most competitive. But it is not true for the majority of programs. Great USMLE scores, great grades on the specialty rotation, and stellar LORs, you will be a competitive applicant even if you go to a State U school.
 
About the only thing you can plan for right now is which school you go to.

(Later, you'll pursue letters of recommendation, grades, ECs, leadership and research, among other things. But for now....)

Keep in mind that residency programs often care about the institution you're coming from. Fair or unfair, they'll take a top tier graduate over State U quite often. (Particularly when scores and other things are equal.)

Please do not encourage these pre-meds to do any more worrying about what schools they should attend than the already coma-inducing threads in the Pre-Allo forum attest they do.

While it is true for some very competitive programs and specialties, as noted above, the VAST majority of programs do not consider the medical school you attended (as long as in the US), a significant factor in choosing residents. There is a PD survey on the NRMP website which shows what factors PDs are looking at and by far, USMLE and grades way outrank where you went to medical school.
 
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