Calculus III?

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I know most medical schools require a full year (2 sem) of college math and some don't count AP Calculus credits earned. I received credit for Calculus I (5 on AP Cal AB) and am now taking Cal II. I was wondering if I have to take Calculus III to satisfy the med school math requirements. Has anyone taken or is taking Calculus III? How would you rate its difficulty with the first two semesters of Calculus?

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Ugh. Calc III? Good lord. 😉

Here's my take on that, cuz I knew a kid in the same situation back in undergrad. Instead of Calc III (or in his case Linear Algebra or differential equations or whatever it was) he took the Psych department's statistics class, and learned about statistical analysis of large groups, group comparisons, analysis of variances, t-tests, z-tests, and all that.

IMHO, that stuff is going to be more useful to you as a physician than Calc III. You don't need calculus for medical school; they just need students to understand the basic principles of differentiation and integration, because your body operates on some of those premises. On the other hand, understanding group comparisons is really the basis for most of the clinical medicine research out there. Of course, statistics isn't *hard,* so it's not like you won't be able to pick it up when they cover it in med school. It's probably easier than multivariable calculus, though.

If you WANT to take Calc III, kind of for fun (you're a "math person") or to distinguish yourself from the rest of the pack, go for it. But I wouldn't do it cuz you think it's the only way to fulfill that requirement.

p.s. In my experience, taking difficult science classes at undergrad doesn't really hold you back as much as the premed deans would have you believe. Take what you want, and speak passionately at your interviews about why you made the choices you did, your love of science, and why you wanted to take the hard courses. If you wind up with a 3.2, but a transcript with classes like physical chemistry, protein folding, kinetics, inorganic chemistry, etc, etc--that's impressive to med schools too. A lot of premeds steer away from those classes to keep their GPAs up...
 
Take it - if you're a "math person," it's actually a fairly interesting course, and coming right out of Calc II you should do well in Calc III (I placed out of I and II and took III at the end of Sophomore year; didn't find it excruciatingly difficult but then again I kinda like the stuff). I would recommend Calc III over Linear Algebra which doesn't follow II as naturally (and who cares about eigenvalues?)
 
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I'd go for it...Calc III was probably the easiest of the series (assuming you start at I with zero calc experience). All it is is mulitvariate analysis. Other good (read: easy) choices might be Logic, Linear Algebra, ODE, or Vector Analysis (Calc IV).

Just stay away from Group/Game theory classes and the worst of them all, Real Analysis -.-

I do agree, however, that stats classes might actually be more practical and useful...
 
Depakote said:
I'm pretty sure most schools only require Calc I, some a year of Math (i.e. Calc I and another course like Stat or Calc II). I applied to 25 schools and none required Calc II.

Don't most schools just require one year of math? i.e wouldn't Statistics I and II suffice?
 
A lot of schools actually will take AP credit, for math at least. Just call and ask!
 
you need to have passed calc 1 and 2, if you got AP credit it's the same thing. statistics isn't a bad idea because they tend to go over it really fast in med school. no reason to subject yourself to calc 3.
 
rpkall said:
Ugh. Calc III? Good lord. 😉

Here's my take on that, cuz I knew a kid in the same situation back in undergrad. Instead of Calc III (or in his case Linear Algebra or differential equations or whatever it was) he took the Psych department's statistics class, and learned about statistical analysis of large groups, group comparisons, analysis of variances, t-tests, z-tests, and all that.

IMHO, that stuff is going to be more useful to you as a physician than Calc III. You don't need calculus for medical school; they just need students to understand the basic principles of differentiation and integration, because your body operates on some of those premises. On the other hand, understanding group comparisons is really the basis for most of the clinical medicine research out there. Of course, statistics isn't *hard,* so it's not like you won't be able to pick it up when they cover it in med school. It's probably easier than multivariable calculus, though.

If you WANT to take Calc III, kind of for fun (you're a "math person") or to distinguish yourself from the rest of the pack, go for it. But I wouldn't do it cuz you think it's the only way to fulfill that requirement.

p.s. In my experience, taking difficult science classes at undergrad doesn't really hold you back as much as the premed deans would have you believe. Take what you want, and speak passionately at your interviews about why you made the choices you did, your love of science, and why you wanted to take the hard courses. If you wind up with a 3.2, but a transcript with classes like physical chemistry, protein folding, kinetics, inorganic chemistry, etc, etc--that's impressive to med schools too. A lot of premeds steer away from those classes to keep their GPAs up...
As someone who has followed this route that you are describing (but with a GPA significantly higher than 3.2) I must still disagree with your conclusion. In terms of medical school admission, your GPA is more important than course difficulty (at least coming from a top tier school, if that has any bearing). Of course, my heavy science and math background did help on the MCAT.
 
BrettBatchelor said:
Calc III is easier than Calc II. If you like math, take it for kicks. Physics will never be the same.
That totally depends on who you have for a prof! I took Calc III while TAing calc II, and it was the one A on my transcript that I felt I TRULY earned. He gave problem sets that we had a month to do, and we all lived in his office. Then again, my professor was known all over campus for making at least one girl cry every year.
 
omega_703 said:
I know most medical schools require a full year (2 sem) of college math and some don't count AP Calculus credits earned. I received credit for Calculus I (5 on AP Cal AB) and am now taking Cal II. I was wondering if I have to take Calculus III to satisfy the med school math requirements. Has anyone taken or is taking Calculus III? How would you rate its difficulty with the first two semesters of Calculus?

Many medical schools do not require anything above pre-calculus.

Some medical schools require Calc I.

Few medical schools require Calc II.

ZERO medical schools require Calc III.

(On a side note, there is no use of math beyond basic high school algebra in medical school.)

Don't take Calc III unless math gives you a woody.
 
Calc III was the easiest of the Calc's I thought. Calc II was the hardest.
 
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OSUdoc08 said:
Many medical schools do not require anything above pre-calculus.

Some medical schools require Calc I.

Few medical schools require Calc II.

ZERO medical schools require Calc III.


Actually, it depends if the OP goes to a semester or quarter based school- if (s)he goes to a quarter based school, calc III is the 3rd quarter needed to complete one year of calc, and I noticed in the MSAR that there *are* some schools that require a year of calc (Washu, Harvard, JHU (?) I think)- though there are only a few. If the OP goes to a semester school than Calc III would be into the 2nd year of math and that would never be required. I'm assuming though that they mean the 3rd quarter, since calc is usually just a one year sequence.
 
Any math classes below real analysis=easy. enough said.
 
Take calc III b/c it's fun. I swear, once I got to multiple integrals I wondered why did they make us do the shell and donut methods in calc I for? Multiple Integrals Rocked my world! Honestly, if you're a math nerd take calc III and dif-eq, you'll love it.
 
What exactly is Calc III? I know C1 is single-variable, C2 is multi-var...is C3 simply diffyq?
 
Calc I=differentiation and limits
Calc II=series and integration
Calc III=multivariable calc w/ some vector calc


This is the way it is at most schools. Some schools mix what they call CalcI-III up with those topics that I listed. Some schools also call diff eq calc IV.
 
You might want to look at the policies of different med schools. Some with a calculus requirement may actually want you to take calc III since you AP'd out of Calc I and Calc II. Certain schools (Cornell, off the top of my head) want to see that you've pursued upper-division study in any subject that's a pre-med requirement if you tested out of the earlier courses.

Hope that makes sense.
 
novawildcat said:
Calc I=differentiation and limits
Calc II=series and integration
Calc III=multivariable calc w/ some vector calc


This is the way it is at most schools. Some schools mix what they call CalcI-III up with those topics that I listed. Some schools also call diff eq calc IV.
If that's what your calc sequence will be, and that's what my quarter system calc classes covered, calc III is definitely easier than calc II. Take calc III, it's good fun and you'd be surprised at the number of cuties in the class - at least at a large public school. However, stats has way more hot girls. Use that knowledge wisely, my friend.
 
Calc 3 was f'ng useless in my opinion. I took Calc1-3 and Differential Equations. I don't remember what the point of calc3 was. Multivariable ****? They could teach you that in 5 minutes. So take it if you want to integrate stupid equations, it's an easy class if you're decent at calculus already. I didn't get any benefits out of the class though in any future class I took, and most of my classes are/have been heavily math dependent.
 
novawildcat said:
Calc I=differentiation and limits
Calc II=series and integration
Calc III=multivariable calc w/ some vector calc


This is the way it is at most schools. Some schools mix what they call CalcI-III up with those topics that I listed. Some schools also call diff eq calc IV.

Interesting. Over here, CI and CII are covered in the same class (C1), and CIII = C2.
 
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