Can I continue my job as an M1

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So I know it's typically suggested to not work during medical school, but maybe I still can? I work as a research consultant and most of my job is done via email (90%), the other 10 percent is in person meetings and phone calls.

I could maybe do 5-10 hours of work a week and pocket 80k just on my commission, however, I'm thinking its Foolish to think I can do this and succeed in medical school. My clients are primarily medical directors and early/late stage scientist so I have definitely gotten network connections from my job as a nice perk. What do you guys think? Drop it before M1 or try and see if I can pull this off with med school.

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See if you can pull it off. If it's truly a 10 hour a week commitment, it's totally doable.
 
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What job is this and can I send in an application?
 
See if you can pull it off. If it's truly a 10 hour a week commitment, it's totally doable.

I have a 40 hour work week now, but most of that time is travel. It's an average of 10 actual hours of work, but I usually procrastinate with other stuff.
 
Maybe you should not go to medical school and work 50-60 hours a week and make 800k a year?

Working more hours won't net me more money. It's a very slow sales cycles and I'm limited by the work hours of other people (9-5 hour job), and they usually only have 30-60min to speak to me anyhow. I can also only manage so many accounts.
 
If you pocket 80k from 5-10 hours of work why are you going into medicine?

I have thought about this a lot! But I just can't see myself doing this for much longer. My life is in front of a computer screen most of the time and I only get excited when I close a deal, the rest of the time I really hate it. I don't care to make tons of money, I just want to do something I enjoy, but figured It could pay for my medical school potentially.
 
What job is this and can I send in an application?

LOL. Have you heard of CROs, Pharma, Biotech, Etc. Lots of people that do what I do and net just as much and more so than medical directors.
 
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I'm no superstar, but I was able to pull off doing consult work like you're describing during MS1-2. I've cut back on hours during MS-3 but it's still doable.
 
I'm currently a monitor working for a CRO and contracted to a big pharma company (came into it after a life in the financial world), and while I do make more than 80k, it's definitely not based on 5-10 hrs of work a wk. I clearly need to switch into your role. I'd gladly take the pay cut in exchange for a short work wk. Expect a PM soon as I clearly picked the wrong field!

I'm an incoming M1, but I have a gig where I can make remotely and get $30 hrs per hour for about 5 hrs of work a week that I intend to keep during med school. The good thing is there is a secondary team, so I can just email and have them do the work when I don't have time to.

LOL. Have you heard of CROs, Pharma, Biotech, Etc. Lots of people that do what I do and net just as much and more so than medical directors.
 
I'm no superstar, but I was able to pull off doing consult work like you're describing during MS1-2. I've cut back on hours during MS-3 but it's still doable.
That's good to hear. I should probably say 10hours of dedicated work as these 5 hours have been slow weeks as pharma people take off for the summer.
 
I'm currently a monitor working for a CRO and contracted to a big pharma company (came into it after a life in the financial world), and while I do make more than 80k, it's definitely not based on 5-10 hrs of work a wk. I clearly need to switch into your role. I'd gladly take the pay cut in exchange for a short work wk. Expect a PM soon as I clearly picked the wrong field!

I'm an incoming M1, but I have a gig where I can make remotely and get $30 hrs per hour for about 5 hrs of work a week that I intend to keep during med school. The good thing is there is a secondary team, so I can just email and have them do the work when I don't have time to.

Responded to your PM.

My job is no easy task. In the last year my company fired 90 percent of the team as they did not perform. I just found a method that works for me to meet new clients and have some well established relationships that would be easy to maintain and I could get projects off them alone. A 40 hour work week would have me building new relationships from raw leads. So I guess you could say if you started my position from scratch you would need a lot more hours since you wouldn't know anyone.
 
I have thought about this a lot! But I just can't see myself doing this for much longer. My life is in front of a computer screen most of the time and I only get excited when I close a deal, the rest of the time I really hate it. I don't care to make tons of money, I just want to do something I enjoy, but figured It could pay for my medical school potentially.
It looks like you've got a pretty good gig going. It's not like you are working in construction 10 hours a week. Your side job seems very relevant to science and medicine; it could only help you. Especially as you seem to be making some pretty high level contacts. I think a lot of us spend 10 hours a week doing things that will never help our careers (video games, bars, Netflix, etc.). If I were in your shoes, I'd keep at it, unless it really got in the way of school.
 
So I know it's typically suggested to not work during medical school, but maybe I still can? I work as a research consultant and most of my job is done via email (90%), the other 10 percent is in person meetings and phone calls.

I could maybe do 5-10 hours of work a week and pocket 80k just on my commission, however, I'm thinking its Foolish to think I can do this and succeed in medical school. My clients are primarily medical directors and early/late stage scientist so I have definitely gotten network connections from my job as a nice perk. What do you guys think? Drop it before M1 or try and see if I can pull this off with med school.


I came here to say the words "no" but once I saw 80k I hesitated. I'd say try to stick to it lol.
 
It looks like you've got a pretty good gig going. It's not like you are working in construction 10 hours a week. Your side job seems very relevant to science and medicine; it could only help you. Especially as you seem to be making some pretty high level contacts. I think a lot of us spend 10 hours a week doing things that will never help our careers (video games, bars, Netflix, etc.). If I were in your shoes, I'd keep at it, unless it really got in the way of school.

Thanks. I will maybe try and see how things work out during the first quarter. I'm a little scared about the whole drinking from a fire-hose analogy so I'm really trying to figure out if it's worth sticking with this work.

I came here to say the words "no" but once I saw 80k I hesitated. I'd say try to stick to it lol.

If they let me keep my base it would be double, but there is no way they would if I'm working part time. I care much more about making sure I do well in medical school so I don't want to do anything to risk ruining that. That's why I'm willing to forgo the money.


Since I have received so many PMs I'll provide the general details that I provided to everyone who messaged me

-I work for a small biotech company that acts somewhat like a CRO
-I'm a research consultant/Business Development person. This is basically sales if you want to generalize, except I can sell things that don't exist yet. I'm not selling a product, but project design and the resources to execute anything from development, pre-clinical, translation, early development and post development (Phase 4 study0
-I get about 5-7% of each project and projects range from 40k - 4 million. Smaller projects close much faster and have less hold up and regulation
-Most of my time is spent emailing clients, calling them, taking them out to lunch/dinner, or presenting in person.
- I have enough connections to get a steady flow of projects, hence why I can work 10 hours a week and still pocket 80k. If I had to start from scratch it would take much more time
-Most of my clients are medical directors, and director level people. Some are VPs, but those are only for really big projects. My clients are primarily top 20 pharma/biotech.
-If you want to do a job like mine, it's probably easiest to work for a large CRO, they pay even more than I get, but they tend to be more rigid.
-I have several years of experience in translaional/clinical research and start-up experience in the tech sector.
-The skills required to do my job are pretty simple. Be good at sales, be likable, look good, and be good at time management. You need to understand how research works and the barriers to completing projects, but most people can learn this stuff quickly. Pedigree, believe it or not, really matters. I have closed deals because I went to a very well connected prestigious undergrad. However, it only matters for getting your foot in the door.

That pretty much sums it up. I appreciate all the feedback. It seems like most people think I should try and stick with it, so I might. If anyone has any examples of them doing work during med school and still doing well, I would appreciate your insight. I know I want to do something competitive (Ortho, maybe ENT) and so I want to focus on doing the best I can. It's P/F but I still want to make sure I maximize my learning to do well on step 1.
 
I am forever jealous of you. I thought i had everything going for me by making 20k/yr as a D1. Apparently not haha
 
I am forever jealous of you. I thought i had everything going for me by making 20k/yr as a D1. Apparently not haha

20k is pretty good as a student. I'm taking a huge pay cut to go to medical school, so it's basically going from I can buy anything I want and travel whenever to wherever, to living on a tight budget and actually thinking about how not to spend money. Although if I do continue my job, it won't be too bad. I'm more concerned about my terrible study skills and being out of school for several years.
 
20k is pretty good as a student. I'm taking a huge pay cut to go to medical school, so it's basically going from I can buy anything I want and travel whenever to wherever, to living on a tight budget and actually thinking about how not to spend money. Although if I do continue my job, it won't be too bad. I'm more concerned about my terrible study skills and being out of school for several years.

Fair point. There's always a trade off i guess
 
I could maybe do 5-10 hours of work a week and pocket 80k just on my commission

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What the hell am I doing with my life...
 
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What the hell am I doing with my life...

Lol. I should have maybe added more background the first post. You can't just work 5-10 hours off the bat and expect to make that amount. My first year I probably worked close to 70-80 hours to find the right people and get projects and earn trust. I just have a nice thing setup where I get a lot of repeat business and easy referrals.
 
I am hoping to keep working at least a shift or two a week, but for me, it is going to look a lot more like avg 10hrs/wk = $15k/yr. Your situation is a no brainer. Do it as long as you can stand it. Have an exit strategy for when you reach the point where your time becomes more precious to you than the money.
 
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