can one go to a pgy2 with pgy1 10 months

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is there a chance a PGY2 position will accept someone who finished a pgy1 with 10 months of residency with 2 months of medical leave? They did not allow me to finish it off and just had me go with medical leave. Lets say I can get a doctors note for the medical leave--then what? Thanks.
 
No, in almost all cases.

The rules will be set both by the RRC and The American Board of (insert specialty here). In all cases that I know, one or both require the satisfactory completion of 12 months of R-1 work to progress to the R-2 level.

Also, your situation is much more complicated than you suggest based upon your older posts. You didn't exactly leave your program under the best of circumstances, and it sounds like there were questions about your competence. Valid or not, it is not simply completing 12 months of PGY-1 work that allows you to be a PGY-2 -- it's 12 months of PGY-1 work and demonstrating complete competence at the PGY-1 level.

On a good note, if I had a PGY-2 and I really wanted to hire you, I could simply give you 2 months of PGY-1 work and then you're "ready" to be a PGY-2, assuming that I was satisfied with your performance. However, given the amount of time you've now been away from clinical medicine and the story from your prior program, I doubt any program would be willing to bet that 2 months of PGY-1 work would prepare you adequately for a PGY-2 position.
 
Thanks for your advice. I've been away only since around May and June of 2009--does that count as anything? I really don't know what to do now. Do I well qualify for a PGY1 at least?
Thanks.
 
What happened at your old program?
I don't see why you couldn't apply to PGY1 positions in a different specialty. The only problem is that if you had big problems at your first program then other programs would be worried that you might have problems at a new one too.
I wish you the best of luck in finding a new spot though. 🙂
 
Perhaps I am a bit confused about your timeline. In this prior thread, you went into some detail about your past. I had thought that you:

1. Graduated from a Carib school in 2004 or so.
2. Scrambled into a PGY-1 spot in IM.
3. Trained for about 10 months, left after being threatened with probation (or something similar).
4. Did some time in a nonACGME approved surgical position.
5. in 5/08 had "...tried the last few matches and got 1-2 interviews, last year nothing from the NRMP match, but never got back in."

Although there isn't a clear timeline layed out, it would seem that you are at least 5-7 years out from your medical school graduation. You did some training in an ACGME residency program, but I had the sense that this was some time ago. My apologies if I have read the situation incorrectly.

To answer your question: I'm not sure what you mean by "qualify" for a PGY-1. As an MD grad, you can certainly work as a PGY-1. However, your distant graduation, low USMLE scores, being dropped from a residency program, and lack of support from those you have worked with is all going to work against you. It should be clear by now that continuously reapplying via the NRMP match is not a working strategy, assuming you have applied broadly to (relatively) non-competitive FP (and perhaps psych) programs. Your best chance of success is via the people you have worked with. You mentioned that you worked in a non-ACGME surgical spot. If the people in that program really thought you were good, they would find a way to get you a spot -- inside or outside the next match. If they don't, then they think that their lowest match off their rank list is better than you, and that's very telling. However, that might be because the program is "prestigious" (your term, I believe) and hence does not take IMG's or those with low USMLE scores, no matter how hard a worker you were. In that case, I would hope that they would help you by putting in a good word with other programs. If not, that also is telling.

Bottom line is that your chances of getting another spot are small and shrinking quickly. A new PGY-1 is what you should be looking for. IMHO you are wasting your time looking for a PGY-2. Networking with those that have worked with you is your best chance.
 
We have a guy in our FM program who had completed 12 months in IM. He is PGY-1 now but is going to be promoted to PGY-2 in 6 months as some of his rotations got credited.
 
mwest,

where is this program at? please pm me about it. I would like to apply there. Does it take FMG's?

Thanks.
 
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