Can't... stand... anatomy partner...

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...so much that I often imagine hurling my scalpel at her overbearing, loud, pushy, selfish head. She orders everyone at the table what to do, and they do it! I cannot understand how she has established herself as the alpha female other than the fact that she has a booming voice and constantly talks about her marathon running experiences. Shrieking, "Oh, this looks like fascia! I'm gonna cut it!" she successfully destroyed many thin muscles and small vessels, while dominating the entire cadaver with her uncoordinated manhandling. My protests fall on deaf ears, and I feel like I'm sitting idly by the sidelines.

There is enough stress in learning the material itself. I think one day, I might just punch her in the face.

Does anyone else feel this way? I would appreciate any advice.
 
Foodie said:
...so much that I often imagine hurling my scalpel at her overbearing, loud, pushy, selfish head. She orders everyone at the table what to do, and they do it! I cannot understand how she has established herself as the alpha female other than the fact that she has a booming voice and constantly talks about her marathon running experiences. Shrieking, "Oh, this looks like fascia! I'm gonna cut it!" she successfully destroyed many thin muscles and small vessels, while dominating the entire cadaver with her uncoordinated manhandling. My protests fall on deaf ears, and I feel like I'm sitting idly by the sidelines.

There is enough stress in learning the material itself. I think one day, I might just punch her in the face.

Does anyone else feel this way? I would appreciate any advice.

well you're not alone. we have a similar girl at our table. i'm just glad she isn't on my side- her and one other girl on the other side are always going at it and arguing. 🙄
 
I feel your pain! We have the most annoying girl in our group too. She insists on being the one to do everything, and even though we are supposed to rotate and take turns dissecting, she always wants to be right in there, doing it herself. She makes us feel dumb, like we don't know what we are talking about. My friend and I joke that she already has the surgeon mentality down to a tee....thinks she can do it better, she's God's gift to anatomy, and no one else knows as much as she does...It's rather amusing when you think about it! Just hang in there and if you're gonna punch her, make sure she does a face plant in the cadavar! j/k!
 
CaliforniaBound said:
My friend and I joke that she already has the surgeon mentality down to a tee....
There's no such thing as a surgeon personality. I've met psychiatrists who thought they were God's gift to earth and I've met neurosurgeons who are down-to-earth folks.

This view of surgeons is getting old.
 
Those who have had bad experiences with the alpha female....none of you would happened to go to UT-Southwestern??
 
To be honest that stuff is annoying for the first couple sessions, after that pretty much every sane person is sick of disecting (save for the person bossing everyone around). At our tank we let the gung ho alpha disector disect for the whole 4 hours while we sat around reading notes or quizing eachother.
 
Has anyone tried pulling her aside and saying, yo, what's up with this? Don't just sit back and let her make cadaver puree.
 
the best way to handle this is to make her feel dumb.

Like when she cuts an artery and shreds up a muscle, keep saying "Yo, What the f*ck are you doing??!!!"

Keep saying it like that EVERY time she messes up.

But otherwise, just sit back and let her dice up the body. Anatomy dissection isn't important anyway..... well, unless you wanna be a surgeon. Even then, it doesn't matter much. If you want to see a good specimen, go visit other cadavers.
 
Foodie said:
...so much that I often imagine hurling my scalpel at her overbearing, loud, pushy, selfish head. She orders everyone at the table what to do, and they do it! I cannot understand how she has established herself as the alpha female other than the fact that she has a booming voice and constantly talks about her marathon running experiences. Shrieking, "Oh, this looks like fascia! I'm gonna cut it!" she successfully destroyed many thin muscles and small vessels, while dominating the entire cadaver with her uncoordinated manhandling. My protests fall on deaf ears, and I feel like I'm sitting idly by the sidelines.

There is enough stress in learning the material itself. I think one day, I might just punch her in the face.

Does anyone else feel this way? I would appreciate any advice.

Hi there,
Some people are rude and stupid at the same time; sound like you found one. Try setting up a rotating dissection schedule so everyone gets a chance to dissect. If this does not work, and she is really dense, go to your instructor as a group and have a chat. Your anatomical gift is too precious to let one person ruin this for you.

I wish you luck. Some people get rude and stupid as a way of handling stress. The next time she braggs about her marathons, suggest that she get on the road now before it gets dark. 😉

njbmd 🙂
 
Blake said:
There's no such thing as a surgeon personality. I've met psychiatrists who thought they were God's gift to earth and I've met neurosurgeons who are down-to-earth folks.

This view of surgeons is getting old.

Thank you for the dumbest post of the day. "I know a surgeon who is nice, and a psychiatrist who is egotistical, therefore the general personality traits of different specialties are entirely false and made up." Are you serious? No one is saying ALL surgeons are arrogant, so your evidence of this one guy you know this one time doesn't mean anything. Don't be a tool.
 
BaylorGuy said:
Those who have had bad experiences with the alpha female....none of you would happened to go to UT-Southwestern??

What are you implying? I can assure people of the alpha female type exist at every single school in this country. Oh, and my group has 3 of us interested in surgery, and all of us work very well together and with the fourth person, we all take turns dissecting, confirm before cutting anything that may be important, and joke during lab.
 
vhawk01 said:
Thank you for the dumbest post of the day. "I know a surgeon who is nice, and a psychiatrist who is egotistical, therefore the general personality traits of different specialties are entirely false and made up." Are you serious? No one is saying ALL surgeons are arrogant, so your evidence of this one guy you know this one time doesn't mean anything. Don't be a tool.
Ah, thanks for the award 😳. Like it or not, my point still remains. And I've met my fair share of surgeons, even though I'm a lowly MS2. *hands you back the award*
 
Thanks y'all for your insights. No, this isn't UT-Southwestern. I'd prefer to not reveal where I go because my classmates read SDN. Ah, the sweeet nectar of anonymity.

YouDontKnowJack said:
the best way to handle this is to make her feel dumb.

Like when she cuts an artery and shreds up a muscle, keep saying "Yo, What the f*ck are you doing??!!!"

Keep saying it like that EVERY time she messes up.

Nice, I'll give that a try at next dissection.
 
Blake said:
There's no such thing as a surgeon personality. I've met psychiatrists who thought they were God's gift to earth and I've met neurosurgeons who are down-to-earth folks.

This view of surgeons is getting old.

Exceptions only prove the rule.
 
Blake said:
There's no such thing as a surgeon personality. I've met psychiatrists who thought they were God's gift to earth and I've met neurosurgeons who are down-to-earth folks.

This view of surgeons is getting old.


you're still an MSII...talk when you've done your surgery rotation in 3rd year...the surgeon personality is still well alive and it definetly exists.
 
Foodie said:
...so much that I often imagine hurling my scalpel at her overbearing, loud, pushy, selfish head. She orders everyone at the table what to do, and they do it! I cannot understand how she has established herself as the alpha female other than the fact that she has a booming voice and constantly talks about her marathon running experiences. Shrieking, "Oh, this looks like fascia! I'm gonna cut it!" she successfully destroyed many thin muscles and small vessels, while dominating the entire cadaver with her uncoordinated manhandling. My protests fall on deaf ears, and I feel like I'm sitting idly by the sidelines.

There is enough stress in learning the material itself. I think one day, I might just punch her in the face.

Does anyone else feel this way? I would appreciate any advice.

Just switch partners. I did.
 
Dire Straits said:
you're still an MSII...talk when you've done your surgery rotation in 3rd year...the surgeon personality is still well alive and it definetly exists.


:laugh: That's for sure! :laugh:
 
We had a douche in my anatomy group (there were 6 of us) that thought he was the Crown Prince of Anatomy because his mom was a pathologist or some goddamned thing. Anyways, he wanted to be a surgeon, so he thought he needed to gun and do all the dissection and kiss our anatomy's teacher's disgusting fat ass. Because we had a year long anatomy course, by the time we got to November, he had had it. I ended up doing a lot of the dissection because he just could not be bothered anymore. He totally got over himself, eventually. Dissection is an f-ing bore. The wannabe surgeons can only jerk off for so long before they get tired of scraping off a crap load of fat and fascia.
 
Blake said:
Ah, thanks for the award 😳. Like it or not, my point still remains. And I've met my fair share of surgeons, even though I'm a lowly MS2. *hands you back the award*


Ummm....your point still remains? If your point is that, because of your narrow experience, the stereotype is fallacious and outdated, then no, it doesn't. Although I guess you didn't finish your sentence...your point still remains...what? Wrong? Then yes. I concur. And man, the award is already engraved, I can't accept it back, its all yours.
 
uncoordinated manhandling.
 
stab.................said partner..................with probe
 
Ross434 said:
uncoordinated manhandling.

man, if i had a nickle for every time i've been accused of that :laugh:
 
vhawk01 said:
Ummm....your point still remains? If your point is that, because of your narrow experience, the stereotype is fallacious and outdated, then no, it doesn't. Although I guess you didn't finish your sentence...your point still remains...what? Wrong? Then yes. I concur. And man, the award is already engraved, I can't accept it back, its all yours.

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Originally Posted by Blake
Ah, thanks for the award . Like it or not, my point still remains. And I've met my fair share of surgeons, even though I'm a lowly MS2. *hands you back the award*


Get a room you two.
 
The cadaver doesn't belong to her, it belongs to your group, there is no reason why you can't talk to her about your frustrations. Also it's pretty amazing what you can do just using your fingers. I suggest that the discussion includes banning her from the scalpel and scissors.
 
I don't understand why you'd actually want to do the dissecting. If I could sit around and study or come in late and have the whole dissection complete for my review and have my lab partners be okay with this I'd be set.
 
Anonymous_Uzer said:
I don't understand why you'd actually want to do the dissecting. If I could sit around and study or come in late and have the whole dissection complete for my review and have my lab partners be okay with this I'd be set.


Ahahaha, this is exactly what I do ;-) My group thought I was dumb until they realized that I was memorizing the Netter while they were slaving away :meanie: :meanie:

People who want to do all the dissecting are your friends, trust me!
 
getunconcsious said:
Ahahaha, this is exactly what I do ;-) My group thought I was dumb until they realized that I was memorizing the Netter while they were slaving away :meanie: :meanie:

People who want to do all the dissecting are your friends, trust me!

P, i was going to comment on your blog, but you have to be a member to post...grrr.
Anyhow babe, I think your ad is very cute =)
 
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