carribbean match list (SGU)

[amikhchi]

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I know there are a lot of forums about "what are the cons about going to caribbean" specifically SGU... I read up on most everything everyone on these (and the international) forums had to say, but after looking at the match list, are the results on this page bad? i mean sure, more than half of them are IM/FP but there are anes/rad/ and about 30 in surgery... am i missing something becuase it seems like sgu students get into *somewhat* competitive residencies or is this data flawed (or my analysis because i really don't know much about the matching)

http://www.sgu.edu/ERD/2008/ResidPost.nsf/BYPGY?OpenView&RestrictToCategory=PGY1&Count=-1

 

[Pinkertinkle]

Easy enough time with the specialties that average under 230 on step 1, but the rest is a tough call.

 

[amikhchi]

is there a general rule of thumb that correlates what scores will get you which residencies... like a website or something that shows this sort of info? i haven't really done much research on this, just from what i've read about residency matching from caribbean (or any international it seems) it's easy for im/fp/ob/pd but most of the others (according to nearly every post i've read) are nearly impossible...

 

[Pinkertinkle]

is there a general rule of thumb that correlates what scores will get you which residencies... like a website or something that shows this sort of info? i haven't really done much research on this, just from what i've read about residency matching from caribbean (or any international it seems) it's easy for im/fp/ob/pd but most of the others (according to nearly every post i've read) are nearly impossible...

http://www.nrmp.org/data/chartingoutcomes2007.pdf

 

[ChubbyChaser]

I think the big problem is how many ppl didnt match or graduate at all.

 

[amikhchi]

I don't suppose SGU posts how many of their graduating students DON'T match, and of those how many are US citizens (same for not even graduating)

It just seems to me the whole 1. USMD 2. USDO 3.FMG-MD priority system that people always talk about make it seem like there is little or no chance to get some of the more competitive residencies (maybe not the ultra-uber-competitive ones)

 

[amikhchi]

thanks for that link, lots of info in that pdf

 

[MarylandDude]

http://www.nrmp.org/data/chartingoutcomes2007.pdf

WOW people match into surgery with a 181-190?


and yeah I have a lot of respect for the SGU. I have two buddies there currently in their fourth year. They both got over 230 on step I, they can't stop praising the program.

 

[mmmcdowe]

I don't suppose SGU posts how many of their graduating students DON'T match, and of those how many are US citizens (same for not even graduating)

It just seems to me the whole 1. USMD 2. USDO 3.FMG-MD priority system that people always talk about make it seem like there is little or no chance to get some of the more competitive residencies (maybe not the ultra-uber-competitive ones)

I think another thing that you should consider is where they are doing their residencies. I really don't know enough about hospital systems and rankings to say, but my guess is that the majority of these folk aren't exactly in a top 10 hospital. The bottom line, though, is that if you're good enough you're good enough. Where you go or don't go might make things harder or easier on you, but if you have what it takes and enough determination you'll make it. I mean, I know a radiologist who went to the Carrib for medical school, he clearly did well enough to match. This is why you can go to a "lower tier" med school and still end up with a fellowship at Harvard. This is why you can go to a "low ranking" or public undergrad and get into Johns Hopkins. Quality wins in the end. Say you go to SGU, and you could have gotten into a allopathic school. Chances are, you might crush the majority of your class. If you wind up ranked 3rd in your class with a Step 1 score of 245, residencies will see this. Just like adcoms can see the kid at some small state school with a 3.98, a 38T, and glowing recommendations from his Deans has what it takes.

 

[Pinkertinkle]

WOW people match into surgery with a 181-190?


and yeah I have a lot of respect for the SGU. I have two buddies there currently in their fourth year. They both got over 230 on step I, they can't stop praising the program.

Sure, surgery isn't all that competitive. The lifestyle is backbreaking.

 

[mmmcdowe]

WOW people match into surgery with a 181-190?


and yeah I have a lot of respect for the SGU. I have two buddies there currently in their fourth year. They both got over 230 on step I, they can't stop praising the program.

radiology too!

 

[MarylandDude]

Sure, surgery isn't all that competitive. The lifestyle is backbreaking.

I hope it gets even less competitive by the time I apply 😀. But yeah those people who applied to plastics with a 201-210 have some major balls

I love those smilies .

 

[rama kandra]

SGU admits around 170 people per semester and that makes about 350 in a given year. By the end of the year, 100 have left or dropped the program and if you count the list of published matches, its ~150.

This means that either some students did not report their match or allow them to be published but a LOT did not get matched at all. Take this for what it means - if you do well in the STEP, youll get a spot. If you do excellent in the STEP, youll get a good spot.

But with that said, a US graduate will get into the good spot with a pretty OK score. They (Carib) are last in the pile of applicants since they can only be judged on their scores and not according to what most US residency directors know, which is the US system. I know folks who are at SGU and back and doing great. They are lucky.

I would go to SGU if I didnt get into the US MD system, and I'd rather go to Carib over DO just b/c I want an MD, but its kind of a bummer to know that you really had to go to the last option.

 

[Vihsadas]

http://www.nrmp.org/data/chartingoutcomes2007.pdf

An interesting thing about that link is that while the mean scores for matched US applicants vary quite a bit, the 75th percentile in each category are almost all above 230.