CCLCM vs. UCSF

[sij628]

Hello Everyone, I would love some input on this difficult decision. I am leaning toward CCLCM but I would really like to do residency at a UC if possible... Thanks for you input.

UCSF:
+ Great school for research and clinical
+ My many friends in the bay area
+ I am hoping to be back in California for residency so maybe UCSF is kind of an "in"?
+ I like the new curriculum
- Cost of living in SF is very high

Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine:
+ Free tuition
+ Cleveland is very cheap to live in, so I would graduate with little or no debt
+ I am very interested in research
+/- Includes opportunity to get a masters, but is 5 years
- I have mixed feelings about the preclinical curriculum, it sounds really cool but I am skeptical about all of the self-directed learning and have traditionally only studied structured environments that do exams.

Does anyone have any insight around either of these two programs? Will UCSF open a lot of doors for residency at a University of California that CCLCM would not?

Thanks for your help!

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[WedgeDawg]

Moving to pre-allo SSD

 

[bearintraining]

You probably couldn't go wrong with either. Don't under estimate the influence of the mighty dollar. I would love UCSF, but free CCLCM would probably twist my arm enough. You could try asking UCSF for money.

 

[drwoofs]

FREE! Go with cclcm unless you truly believe that ucsf will give you something cclcm will not.

 

[neekzg]

Going to UCSF would make it a lot easier to stay at UCSF for residency, but there's no reason that going to CCLCM will exclude you from matching back in California.

UCSF is a great school but they won't be able to match the financial offer you're receiving at CCLCM.

 

[Dence]

I'm assuming you don't have any money at UCSF?

If so, we're talking ~$80k debt from Cleveland living expenses, vs >$300k total at UCSF. Don't overthink this.

 

[oncology2020]

CCLCM hands down, not even close..a top 20-25 school, Cleveland Clinic AND Case Western name..free tuition..I've been told there are no exams or grades for the entire preclinical AND clinical years--you will love not having ridiculous weekly exams to study for, shelf exams optional, allows you to focus on the things that do actually matter for residency (USMLE and research)