cedar sinai, uci

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Winston Smith

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just wondering how competitive these programs are for medicine in terms of board scores etc.

i'm trying to make my way back to california for residency

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Last year UCI sent out interview invitations by email in early October, before the grades/dean's letters were released (and before most of our LOR packages were complete). Since the people I know with good board scores got interviews (230+) and people with lower board scores did not (<220), I think this initial nterview batch was based mostly on board scores. Interviews filled up fast, so I would guess that UCI fills up the majority of their interview slots based largely on Step1 scores. Keep in mind I only have a sample size of n=4 and interviewed there myself. UCI chose to have a smaller residency class this year (22 from 26 last year) and is trying to be more selective, according to the associate dean I interviewed with.

As I recall, cedars-sinai gave out invitations after the dean's letters (after Nov 1), and I suspect their inclusion criteria was based more on dean's letters than board scores.

From what I understand, both of these are great programs in nice locations. My advice would be to apply to all the Cali programs you think you might like, and show an interest by calling them if you haven't received anything by mid-November.
 
Cedars Sinai is highly competitive. It's no UCLA, but its the closest thing in southern california outside of UCSD. UC Irvine is not a top tier medicine program. Like most places in California, they are somewhat overrated by residents for location relative to their position in academics, and so they might be more competitive then you'd expect.

Cedars, for example, has a more regional name as compared to Stanford, UCSF, UCSD and UCLA. But it is still quality training in a nice area. They have some reputable faculty, but they often come to the hospital after prolific academic careers at other 'name brand' places (ie. they just got a huge cardiology guy from Hopkins). As I understand it, they get big name guys when they're in the 'I've paid my dues, now I want cash' phase of their careers, so it's a little trickier to get meaningful research. I couldn't comment on why Cedars allows for more cash, but privates do play a larger role in delivering hospital care while you're there. In the units, for example, private attendings have privileges.

With regard to UC Irvine, I have heard that residents find it difficult to locate strong advocates among faculty when applying for fellowship, so the program relies on its location as being 'just outside' of Los Angeles to get its own very strong home-grown kids, or the people looking to come back to So Cal who couldn't get past the door at the two academic places in Cali south of San Francisco.

I am on the opposite coast, however, so take these observations with a splash of salt. Just what I've heard 'by the water cooler' over the last few years.
 
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