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"What are my chances" is one of the most common posts on SDN. The information provided should help in assessing one's chances of acceptance based on the metrics of the applicants/enrollees.

It is no surprise that the percentage of acceptance increases with each incremental increase in the gpa and dat scores. It is noteworthy that half of the enrollees have science gpa of 3.5-4.0 and that 73.4% of the enrollees have a gpa scores of 3.25-4.0.
Under 3.0 Club- For the class entering in 2013, there were 26.6% or 3235 applicants with science gpa below 3.0. The good news is that 16% or 513 of this applicant pool were accepted; the bad news is that 2722 were not accepted. The numbers were significantly lower for total gpa both in the number of applicants (15.5% or 1885 applicants) and for enrollees (11% or 213); 1672 were not accepted.
Under 3.24 club-The good news is that 27% or 1523 of this applicant pool were accepted; the bad news is that 4205 were not accepted.
Super achievers- A high gpa does not translate into a guaranteed acceptance. It is noteworthy that 28% or 361 applicants with science gpa above 3.75 did not gain acceptance. Interestingly, roughly the same percentage is seen with those with total gpa above 3.75 and with AA and TS scores above 21.
 

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Thank you!

Just in time for the upcoming cycle. One month left and the fun begins! :soexcited:
 
"What are my chances" is one of the most common posts on SDN. The information provided should help in assessing one's chances of acceptance based on the metrics of the applicants/enrollees.

It is no surprise that the percentage of acceptance increases with each incremental increase in the gpa and dat scores. It is noteworthy that half of the enrollees have science gpa of 3.5-4.0 and that 73.4% of the enrollees have a gpa scores of 3.25-4.0.
Under 3.0 Club- For the class entering in 2013, there were 26.6% or 3235 applicants with science gpa below 3.0. The good news is that 16% or 513 of this applicant pool were accepted; the bad news is that 2722 were not accepted. The numbers were significantly lower for total gpa both in the number of applicants (15.5% or 1885 applicants) and for enrollees (11% or 213); 1672 were not accepted.
Under 3.24 club-The good news is that 27% or 1523 of this applicant pool were accepted; the bad news is that 4205 were not accepted.
Super achievers- A high gpa does not translate into a guaranteed acceptance. It is noteworthy that 28% or 361 applicants with science gpa above 3.75 did not gain acceptance. Interestingly, roughly the same percentage is seen with those with total gpa above 3.75 and with AA and TS scores above 21.


Wow

Nice .... And kinda impressive.

How accurate is this?




Thank you doc toothache.
 
Nice data.

Only problem with the info is that it doesn't correlate DAT scores with GPA scores. I wonder what the percentage acceptance rate is of student with a 3.75+ GPAs AND 21+ AA scores.

The data only seems to give one perspective at a time.

I mean, there is a chance that of the 1922 students with 3.75+ Total GPA, 23% of them scored an AA of 18 or lower... which would partially explain why 23% of them did not get accepted.
 
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Wow
Nice .... And kinda impressive.
How accurate is this?
Thank you doc toothache.
How accurate is what?

Nice data.
Only problem with the info is that it doesn't correlated DAT scores with GPA scores. I wonder what the percentage acceptance rate is of student with a 3.75+ GPAs AND 21+ AA scores.The data only seems to give one perspective at a time.I mean, there is a chance that of the 1922 students with 3.75+ Total GPA, 23% of them scored an AA of 18 or lower... which would partially explain why 23% of them did not get accepted.
It does not come in the flavor you are requesting.
 
I'm fine with plain vanilla. It just would have been cool if it correlated the data points together.
 
"What are my chances" is one of the most common posts on SDN. The information provided should help in assessing one's chances of acceptance based on the metrics of the applicants/enrollees.

It is no surprise that the percentage of acceptance increases with each incremental increase in the gpa and dat scores. It is noteworthy that half of the enrollees have science gpa of 3.5-4.0 and that 73.4% of the enrollees have a gpa scores of 3.25-4.0.
Under 3.0 Club- For the class entering in 2013, there were 26.6% or 3235 applicants with science gpa below 3.0. The good news is that 16% or 513 of this applicant pool were accepted; the bad news is that 2722 were not accepted. The numbers were significantly lower for total gpa both in the number of applicants (15.5% or 1885 applicants) and for enrollees (11% or 213); 1672 were not accepted.
Under 3.24 club-The good news is that 27% or 1523 of this applicant pool were accepted; the bad news is that 4205 were not accepted.
Super achievers- A high gpa does not translate into a guaranteed acceptance. It is noteworthy that 28% or 361 applicants with science gpa above 3.75 did not gain acceptance. Interestingly, roughly the same percentage is seen with those with total gpa above 3.75 and with AA and TS scores above 21.
Any idea why the super achievers do not receive an acceptance, doc?
 
How accurate is what?


It does not come in the flavor you are requesting.


Ok I see where the info came from...

And yea it is missing an important flavor.

Delicious
Apricot
Truffle

(DAT correlation)

Am I smart, was that the flavor DOC?




 
OP did you make this yourself? What was your source material? Thanks.
 
The source was/is listed on line 75 of the excel file. The file was modified to reflect the data source. ADEA presents statistics, but leaves the analysis for others.

OP did you make this yourself? What was your source material? Thanks.

Source: Probably from the ADEA guide book.
 
The source was/is listed on line 75 of the excel file. The file was modified to reflect the data source. ADEA presents statistics, but leaves the analysis for others.

Thanks. I must have overlooked it the first time.
 
doc. you the man/woman.
but quick question. I got a pretty high OGPA but my SGPA is pretty low. I am not a science major. I am a BBA major with a minor in MIS. You mind if I PM you for your opinion on schools and stuff?
 
There is reason why high GPA =/= acceptance.

For one, applicant's personality. Alot of different types of people can have high GPAs, including very anti-social and introverted people or very volatile personality. Neither of which are desirable in a dental student.

Another thing is that GPA is only one part of the application. Alot of factors goes into their decisions (ECs, Interview, LORs, etc).

However, applicants with such GPA usually are very astute and intelligent to be able to attain the GPAs they have. As such correlates with the high acceptance rate.

Bottom line: GPA does not make your application, but it can break your application.
 
Using the MCAT and GPA grid for applicants and acceptees to US medical schools for 2012-2014, it is evident that high gpa with high mcat score does not guarantee acceptance. About 9 percent with gpa of 3.80-4.0 and mcat of 39-45 were not accepted. It is interesting to note that the acceptance rate for for the same gpa with the entire spectrum of mcat scores (5-45) had an acceptance rate of 69.1.
https://www.aamc.org/data/facts/applicantmatriculant/ (Table 24).
 
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My guess would be the reason people with high GPA/DAT don't get in is because they have awkward/annoying personalities or that they barely have any extra-curricular activities.
 
My guess would be the reason people with high GPA/DAT don't get in is because they have awkward/annoying personalities or that they barely have any extra-curricular activities.


Omg

Please,

How about yourself rude obnoxious and jealous.... And to me you described yourself well "awkward/annoying personalities".


Maybe like job interviews, some schools may think they are over qualified, and might think that this high scoring individual will most liked be accepted to another school.

Maybe they get in the second time around.

Maybe they applied to multiple professional schools.


Who knows. . .
 
Omg

Please,

How about yourself rude obnoxious and jealous.... And to me you described yourself well "awkward/annoying personalities".


Maybe like job interviews, some schools may think they are over qualified, and might think that this high scoring individual will most liked be accepted to another school.

Maybe they get in the second time around.

Maybe they applied to multiple professional schools.


Who knows. . .
Lol I am confused, are you attacking me? I just listed a few possibilities... and I guess I should have added "some" people with high gpa/dat because I definitely wasn't saying that all people with high gpa/dat are awkward/annoying. I would hope not since I have a high GPA and and expect to have a high DAT.

You are definitely right that some schools won't accept you thinking you wouldn't come since you'll get accepted elsewhere and that some also apply to multiple professional schools and get caught.
 
I currently am a freshman in College and am very concerned regarding my chances of dental school and if I should pursue this career. My GPA after my first year will be around a 3.2, but I had a poor first semester (2.76) because i did not take it seriously. This semester I have a 3.55 GPA and I plan on bringing up my cummulative GPA up to around a 3.4-3.5 with a science GPA of around 3.4 by the time I apply. I plan on hundreds of volunteer/shadowing hours, and my father owns his own practice, which i don't know if that will help me or not. I also am shooting for a 20 on the DAT. Please let me know
 
Lol I am confused, are you attacking me? I just listed a few possibilities... and I guess I should have added "some" people with high gpa/dat because I definitely wasn't saying that all people with high gpa/dat are awkward/annoying. I would hope not since I have a high GPA and and expect to have a high DAT.

You are definitely right that some schools won't accept you thinking you wouldn't come since you'll get accepted elsewhere and that some also apply to multiple professional schools and get caught.




Hiya
 
Lol I am confused, are you attacking me? I just listed a few possibilities... and I guess I should have added "some" people with high gpa/dat because I definitely wasn't saying that all people with high gpa/dat are awkward/annoying. I would hope not since I have a high GPA and and expect to have a high DAT.

You are definitely right that some schools won't accept you thinking you wouldn't come since you'll get accepted elsewhere and that some also apply to multiple professional schools and get caught.

Dont worry, I cant understand what he is saying half of the time.

Just nod and smile, boys. Nod and smile.


I currently am a freshman in College and am very concerned regarding my chances of dental school and if I should pursue this career. My GPA after my first year will be around a 3.2, but I had a poor first semester (2.76) because i did not take it seriously. This semester I have a 3.55 GPA and I plan on bringing up my cummulative GPA up to around a 3.4-3.5 with a science GPA of around 3.4 by the time I apply. I plan on hundreds of volunteer/shadowing hours, and my father owns his own practice, which i don't know if that will help me or not. I also am shooting for a 20 on the DAT. Please let me know

You're in tri-del eh? Well, hi there.
 
I don't know how you find time to do this stuff, Doc, but I love that you do. Thanks for the info!
Dentists have more free time than college students who are trying to get into dental school. At least I HOPE so.
 
Dentists have more free time than college students who are trying to get into dental school. At least I HOPE so.
Let's see: college student at 15 hr/semester= 15 lecture hours/week; add 3 hours/week/lab; semester break, spring break; summer off
dentist: 32-40 hours/week; no summers off; 2-3 weeks of vacation/year (maybe)
When you start your practice, you can return to SDN and make your contribution in your "free time".
Good try.
 
Let's see: college student at 15 hr/semester= 15 lecture hours/week; add 3 hours/week/lab; semester break, spring break; summer off
dentist: 32-40 hours/week; no summers off; 2-3 weeks of vacation/year (maybe)
When you start your practice, you can return to SDN and make your contribution in your "free time".
Good try.
Just messin with you doc.
 
Dont worry, I cant understand what he is saying half of the time.

Just nod and smile, boys. Nod and smile.




You're in tri-del eh? Well, hi there.

OP is a male based on the male symbol in the profile pic. Maybe OP forgot to change it 😉
 
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