Chances? HELP. Did SMP kill me?

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URM (hispanic ethnicity, but white race)
3.6 ugpa, 3.9 science gpa
smp gpa (students graded against each other, curve set at a B) --> 3.0 🙁
*i moved and had a tough first semester due to that and health issues, showed an upward trend tho
MCAT 512

will my grad GPA kill me? schools i should apply to? are schools like NYU / Columbia out of the question? If I raise my MCAT do you think i'd have a chance?

Thanks!
 
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New York; I am highly proficient don’t consider myself fluent.
 
You do not need to retake the MCAT.
I suggest these schools with your stats:
All 4 SUNY's
Albany
New York Medical College
Hofstra
Einstein
Boston University
Tufts
Brown
Dartmouth
Seton Hall
Drexel
Temple
Jefferson
Georgetown
George Washington
Miami
NOVA MD
Oakland Beaumont
Western Michigan
Loyola
Rosalind Franklin
St.Louis
Creighton
TCU-UNT
Kaiser
California University
Keck USC
 
I did the Smp and then retook mcat ; should not have done the smp and just retaken the mcat to begin with but, hindsight is 20/20.
 
URM (hispanic ethnicity, but white race)
3.6 ugpa, 3.9 science gpa
smp gpa (students graded against each other, curve set at a B) --> 3.0 🙁
*i moved and had a tough first semester due to that and health issues, showed an upward trend tho
MCAT 512

will my grad GPA kill me? schools i should apply to? are schools like NYU / Columbia out of the question? If I raise my MCAT do you think i'd have a chance?

Thanks!
Yup. It's time for Plan B. This is one of those few times I disagree with my wise colleague Faha.

"(students graded against each other, curve set at a B"
This is irrelevant. You're supposed to ace an SMP, period. And the grading constructs at the SMP won't be known by Adcoms anyway.

WHY did you take an SMP with already competitive stats? Your judgment gets called into question by this alone, and not taking an LOA when you got sick adds more fuel to that fire.

A 512 MCAT alone would rule out the NYC Titans
 
I'm just confused because our grading curve was much more difficult than our medical school peers, and as most of my colleagues in medical school were sitting at 3.0 give or take, I would think that this would show I can handle the amount of coursework as I am performing at the level of my colleagues. Should I look at retaking the MCAT? doing another SMP? I feel that I should have just dropped the SMP if I had known it would affect me to the level of destroying my future career, but I wanted to see it through and not just quit.
 
I'm sorry, but on paper if I were to see your app, it would Telegraph to me that you cannot handle medical school.

how though when my medical school colleagues are barely pulling 3.0's? at least the vast majority.
 
how though when my medical school colleagues are barely pulling 3.0's? at least the vast majority.
they are already in medical school. This is completely irrelevant to the o p.

My own school has evidence, learn the hard way, that people who get a 3.0 in an SMP do very poorly in medical school.

The grading schema of SMP, no matter how sadistic and unrealistic it was, is irrelevant. You have to consider what an adcom or screener will see when the application arrives
 
I mean I guess I'm asking if there is anything i can do to fix it.. should i retake the mcat? do another smp? i have proven in my science courses and grad courses that i can handle rigorous coursework, as well as with my mcat score which i didn't deem as terrible. i've come too far to give up, and i feel that because i had health issues which negatively affected me my career i had planned is 'over' is a pretty sad prospect
 
Because of the SMP performance, top-tier schools are out of the question. You have a decent shot at mid- and low-tier MD schools, and I would add a few DO schools as backups. Faha's list looks good; consider also adding the Puerto Rican MD schools (if you're willing to brush up on your Spanish skills prior to matriculation). Don't do another SMP, and don't retake the MCAT.

(No offense to Goro, but I think he's totally off base here. PM me if you want links to specific examples of Goro offering the same "quit medicine" advice to people with low-ish SMP GPAs and being proven wrong in the end.)
 
You seem to have already taken the MCAT twice. I asked earlier what your first score was and didn’t get a reply. Anyway, AMCAS recommends that schools average multiple scores. Some do and some don’t but reviewers can see all of your scores. So you should keep that in mind when looking at schools. And just because a school says we only consider the most recent score, the highest score, the super score, etc.. doesn’t mean it’s true or that personal biases of reviewers don’t come into play. So don’t take the MCAT again.
Do you have an issue with @Faha’s list? If not just get your primary ready and submit. See what happens.
You keep talking about the grading curve at the SMP. That’s all well and good but the reviewers of your application won’t know this. They will see a 3.0 in the SMP and that will raise questions. I’m not saying this is right but it is what happens. I’m not sure why you even took a SMP to begin with. You had a 3.9sGPA. It was fool hardy to risk that excellent sGPA.
 
Is your SMP school affiliated with a medical school that will be favorably impressed by your SMP performance? Or is there another med school nearby that will appreciate the rigorousness (according to you -- I don't know) that your 3.0 represents? I'd talk to the advising folks at your SMP program and see what they say.

In general, SMPs are for folks whose prior academic performance causes AdComs to doubt whether they are adequately prepared and can hack it academically in med school. Your SMP performance suggests you will be "lackluster".

As has been mentioned, you may want to improve your "story" appeal (ECs, volunteering, life and work experience) to the extent that you'll inspire AdCom members to pull for you --
 
OP, you won’t know if you don’t try.
 
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