chances? ivy leaguer

[imdanumb1]

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[student1799]

Hey guys,

my numbers are the following:

30Q, cGPA 3.41, sGPA 3.2

I have done research, but no publications
I have done little clinical work (due to working b/c of low finances), but i'll be doing rotations this summer
I've done significant public health stuff and well as volunteering

I went to a top 3 ivy school. I don't plan on retaking the mcat. from NY...

Chances?

See [thread=631596]this thread,[/thread] where the OP has very similar circumstances. The main difference is that she hasn't taken the MCAT yet, and is shooting for a high score. Personally, I think you'll have a pretty tough time without a higher MCAT. And being from NY sucks (I speak from experience).

If you don't want to retake the MCAT, I think you need to take some more classes to get that sGPA up.

 

[anxiousteen]

Hey guys,

my numbers are the following:

30Q, cGPA 3.41, sGPA 3.2

I have done research, but no publications
I have done little clinical work (due to working b/c of low finances), but i'll be doing rotations this summer
I've done significant public health stuff and well as volunteering

I went to a top 3 ivy school. I don't plan on retaking the mcat. from NY...

Chances?

don't listen to these people in this forum. ask your premed advising at your school.

that being said, 3.28 is low

i went to an ivy, and my school had an acceptance chart for undergrads.
for us, 3.4 30mcat was the cut off. below those stats, acceptances were below 50%.

my point is don't listen to all these people saying you need a 3.7gpa 35mcat to be competitive. ask your premed advisor.

 

[karayraisu]

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[djyujin]

don't listen to these people in this forum. ask your premed advising at your school.

that being said, 3.28 is low

i went to an ivy, and my school had an acceptance chart for undergrads.
for us, 3.4 30mcat was the cut off. below those stats, acceptances were below 50%.

my point is don't listen to all these people saying you need a 3.7gpa 35mcat to be competitive. ask your premed advisor.

I definitely agree with this poster, I think I know which school as well! 😉

I definitely know that some schools take undergraduate curriculum difficulty into account (OHSU being one of them). Talk to your premed advisor, and even better, look at the history of medical school applicants from your school. By comparing yourself to previous successful and unsuccessful applicants from your college, you will be able to better gauge your chances. Plus, working (a lot I'm assuming?) with that GPA at an Ivy League college I think is fantastic! Good luck, and PM if you want more info! 👍

 

[JJMrK]

You may have a shot somewhere, but it might be a tough road. Consider adding some DO schools to your list.

 

[sarahl86]

You may have a shot somewhere, but it might be a tough road. Consider adding some DO schools to your list.

QFT 👍

 

[Lacheln]

Hey guys,

my numbers are the following:

30Q, cGPA 3.41, sGPA 3.2

I have done research, but no publications
I have done little clinical work (due to working b/c of low finances), but i'll be doing rotations this summer
I've done significant public health stuff and well as volunteering

I went to a top 3 ivy school. I don't plan on retaking the mcat. from NY...

Chances?

Meh GPA
Meh MCAT
Meh Clinicals

Unfortunately your GPA + MCAT combo isn't going to inspire academic confidence, no matter where your degree is from. Name brand schools definitely help, but not that much. Research schools that would be inclined to overlook weaker clincals tend to be number ******, and schools that would forgive your numbers are going to need more clinical experience. So, fix at least one, preferably two (MCAT and clinicals) of those before applying.

 

[longhorn09]

You don't go to Harvard, do you?

 

[imdanumb1]

You don't go to Harvard, do you?

There are my archenemy. Yeah, I agree it will be tough. Things I did not mention is that I did a varsity sport for my freshman year (largely the reason I was unaware I needed clinical experience). I will gain 130 hrs of clinical experience this summer in a premed internship (mostly shadowing). I guess the question is should I send my application on the submission date or whether I should wait until the end of July?

 

[imdanumb1]

Also I recently graduated.

 

[Lacheln]

There are my archenemy. Yeah, I agree it will be tough. Things I did not mention is that I did a varsity sport for my freshman year (largely the reason I was unaware I needed clinical experience).

Did you have a significant upward trend after freshman year? Upward trends are good, and you could argue that the sport was too much for you to handle, otherwise I don't think it changes the landscape of your app much.

I will gain 130 hrs of clinical experience this summer in a premed internship (mostly shadowing).

Shadowing is pretty much bottom of the barrel in terms of clinical experience because it doesn't actually require anything of you other than the ability to keep quiet and wear proper shoes, but it's better than nothing I guess.

I guess the question is should I send my application on the submission date or whether I should wait until the end of July?

Neither? I mean, you can either apply without clinical experience, or you can give up whatever advantage applying early would have given you. Given that you don't have a standout application in general, why would you want to make that choice?

Is there something else about your app that is special other than the name of your undergrad? Amazing LOR? Published research in a major lab? URM?

The whole basis for the logic behind students from top schools getting in with lower gpas is that the competition is tougher. That's where the MCAT comes in - "sure, I got Bs at my top school, but when I had the chance to compete with the rest of the country I came out on top." But you didn't. Mind you, I'm not calling 30 bad at all, just saying that the whole hard school argument doesn't hold as much water in your case.

FTR, I went to a top school and had a low undergrad gpa. I also, however, had a high postbacc gpa, high MCAT, stellar app in every other arena, and still got little love from top med schools. Which was totally fine actually, as I did get into my rather kick@ss top choice state school, and some other excellent ones. Not trying to be a downer, just saying you will be setting yourself up for an unnecessarily stressful app cycle at best if you apply with what you've told us about here.

 

[imdanumb1]

- I do have a significant upward trend
- I have 4 strong LORs
- I not opposed to going to a low-tier med school.
- pretty sure I could get a 35ish on my MCAT if I retook them (on my day off I didn't finish 2 sections due to nerves)

 

[mmmcdowe]

When did SDN start condoning the use of pre-med advising offices? Never!

OP, retake the MCAT, consider retaking some of the classes or doing post-bach. If you don't have a problem with DO, retaking classes will replace that grade totally.

 

[Lacheln]

OP - retake the MCAT. A 35 is a very different picture than a 30. The process is already hard to predict, you definitely don't want to be riding the line if you have a choice.

Mmm - I adore your sig.

 

[mmmcdowe]

OP - retake the MCAT. A 35 is a very different picture than a 30. The process is already hard to predict, you definitely don't want to be riding the line if you have a choice.

Mmm - I adore your sig.

Lol, the product of far too much time, but thank you!

 

[imdanumb1]

hey guys,

i really appreciate all your advice. I'm going to talk to some people on Adcoms and see what they say. I have heard a good amount of stories from people in similar situations (sometimes worst) and they matriculated to top tier schools. Call me dumb, but I think I'll take my chances. I'll keep you updated!

 

[scarletgirl777]

don't listen to these people in this forum. ask your premed advising at your school.

that being said, 3.28 is low

i went to an ivy, and my school had an acceptance chart for undergrads.
for us, 3.4 30mcat was the cut off. below those stats, acceptances were below 50%.

my point is don't listen to all these people saying you need a 3.7gpa 35mcat to be competitive. ask your premed advisor.

This guy is probably right. Your EC list, I will say, is hard to evaluate based on what you've shared. Premed advisor has data on your students and hopefully you will feel comfortable sharing all the information about your app with him.

 

[imdanumb1]

maybe

 

[forerx]

Wow,it's out of my imagine!!!
But thank you,too.

 

[schrizto]

I have a feeling that if the OP described his/her activities with more confidence it would look better.