chances of entering with 4.0 GPA & low MCAT verbal

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I have a 4.0 GPA but my MCAT is 12 PS, 7 VR, 10 BS, Q writing, is there a chance of me entering medical school since my verbal is so low? I had hard time changing my verbal score from previous administration when i had 12 in both science. I have decent extracurricular and recommendation letters.
 
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I heard that some schools screen out applicants below 8 in VR, but I am not sure if that's right. Even if that's true, I am fairly certain that there are many schools that do not, and will strongly consider your application with a 4.0 and 29. I wouldn't worry about it too much.
 
4.0 is good and obviously hard to get at any school. But if its a 4.0 from a community college or some unknown school as opposed to a top20 school, you might have a much harder time.
 
Even from a top school, you'd have some explainin' to do. Your MCAT is quite a bit more important than your GPA and while a 4.0 is impressive, it's also not exactly uncommon. I'm hesitant to suggest a retake as your PS is excellent and your BS is decent; however, a VR of 7 is likely to get you screened out or dropped from consideration at many/most US MD schools. If you do choose to apply as-is, check the MSAR for schools w/ a 10th percentile of ≤7. You won't find many, but applying to any school that hasn't accepted a 7 in the past is likely pointless (and a waste of money) as it is probably not going to do so now either. Keep in mind that the few 7 VRs they did accept probably had stats similar to your own and backgrounds that explained the VR 7 (e.g., English as a 2nd language).
 
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Definitely need to retake. Even if your 4.0 is from a top school, a lot of schools won't even look at your application if your verbal is that low.
 
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i wish my friend i wish.

i would retake and aim for at least a 9. you may be able to get away with a 8, but given your excellent credentials, you shouldn't take chances. you're probably just a question or two away from getting that. try a few lessons in speed reading.

Fine, assuming your GPA is >3.0, your MCAT is far more important than your MCAT. If you perform an analysis of the statistics released by the AAMC, the MCAT's value tends to strongly outweigh the GPA as we approach acceptable (yet relatively common) MCAT and GPA values (i.e., 3.4-4.0 GPA, 28-38 MCAT). By your response, I would guess you are in the <3.0 group or at least low 3s, in which case, you are likely experiencing the devil in the details here -- low GPA or MCAT can more or less nullify the positive effects of the other. This is really nothing new and is, in fact, what we are essentially telling the OP (i.e., that a VR of 7 is likely to doom the OP's app regardless of other strengths).
 
at least low 3s, in which case, you are likely experiencing the devil in the details here -- low GPA or MCAT can more or less nullify the positive effects of the other. This is really nothing new and is, in fact, what we are essentially telling the OP (i.e., that a VR of 7 is likely to doom the OP's app regardless of other strengths).

yes, i am afraid you are right. there are so many good applicants that med schools have to find an excuse to tell someone to try again. op will spend a few more months practicing and learning from his mistakes and raise that verbal by 1-3 questions for a 8 or 9.
 
From my experience, I've found that 3.8-4.0 pretty much the same but 34 is a big difference from 35, weird. But yes I would agree that MCAT is more important than GPA, especially when it comes to scholarships. However, I'd say retake for sure, get a 9 to be competitive, 10+ if you just want an easier time on the application cycle. If you are able to get a 4.0, you can definitely be able to figure out a way to improve your VR! good luck!
 
so what if i were to apply as soon as AMCAS opens, will that help or even if i get an interview, the admissions committee will not consider a VR7. Thanks again for your answers.
 
so what if i were to apply as soon as AMCAS opens, will that help or even if i get an interview, the admissions committee will not consider a VR7. Thanks again for your answers.


My friend got into (prematch) UT-Houston with 3.8 and 11PS 10BS 6VR. SDN mantra about verbal can be B.S sometimes.
 
so what if i were to apply as soon as AMCAS opens, will that help or even if i get an interview, the admissions committee will not consider a VR7. Thanks again for your answers.

just retake mcat, unless you are confident that you won't do better than a 7, cause otherwise you re not doing yourself justice (being a 4.0 student), and might not get into good schools that you would've with a higher score
 
My friend got into (prematch) UT-Houston with 3.8 and 11PS 10BS 6VR. SDN mantra about verbal can be B.S sometimes.

yea same...i know someone who got into VCU with a 11BS 11PS 6VR. OOS too!
 
Even from a top school, you'd have some explainin' to do. Your MCAT is quite a bit more important than your GPA and while a 4.0 is impressive, it's also not exactly uncommon. I'm hesitant to suggest a retake as your PS is excellent and your BS is decent; however, a VR of 7 is likely to get you screened out or dropped from consideration at many/most US MD schools. If you do choose to apply as-is, check the MSAR for schools w/ a 10th percentile of &#8804;7. You won't find many, but applying to any school that hasn't accepted a 7 in the past is likely pointless (and a waste of money) as it is probably not going to do so now either. Keep in mind that the few 7 VRs they did accept probably had stats similar to your own and backgrounds that explained the VR 7 (e.g., English as a 2nd language).

Sorry, but this is completely false. The table of GPA/MCAT combos of applicants will show you that it's much easier to get in with a high GPA/low MCAT than a low GPA and an amazing MCAT. I'm also fairly certain that despite SDN standards, a 4.0 GPA is extremely uncommon.
 
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