Chicago School PsyD

[crazypsychstudent]

I know there are a lot of posts about this school, but I was hoping if someone that goes there could PM me. Thanks!

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[463951]

I don't go there, but one (or more?) of the branches remains unaccredited, and the one I am referring to has been lying to its students about the accreditation status. Basically they promised incoming students that the school would be accredited right after they graduated their first cohort. I would never go to a school that wasn't accredited (even if accreditation appeared imminent), and students need to do their homework and know what they are getting into. But this school (and others like it) need to be held accountable for blatantly lying to the students, admitting huge cohorts, and making a ton of money – while these students end up with nothing except a lot of debt and wasted years of their life. Stay away from this school, you will be doing yourself a huge favor.

 

[crazypsychstudent]

The campus I am applying to is accredited, though.

 

[erg923]

The campus I am applying to is accredited, though.

Are you seeking to validate your decision to apply based on one persons opinion vs published large N data?

 

[OneNeuroDoctor]

Seems that they are branching out into other States. They are calling their PsyD an applied clinical psychology program. They seem to be going the direction of Alliant University with multiple campuses. Most new programs cannot apply for APA accreditation until the first cohort graduates and I believe only the Chicago or the Grayslake campus is currently APA accredited. The Irving or Orange County campus had applied for APA accreditation but withdrew their application. I wonder how applied clinical psychology is different than just clinical psychology? Is APA specifying a new concentration of applied clinical psychology?

 

[KillerDiller]

I wonder how applied clinical psychology is different than just clinical psychology? Is APA specifying a new concentration of applied clinical psychology?

That's really annoying of them. All clinical and counseling psychology is applied. That's why those programs are accredited by APA in the first place and why graduates are able to apply for licensure. They just want to look special and to imply that other programs don't actually have hands-on training (which, of course, they all do).

Argh

 

[crazypsychstudent]

I appreciate the opinions, but I would like to speak with someone who currently goes there.

 

[erg923]

That's really annoying of them. All clinical and counseling psychology is applied. That's why those programs are accredited by APA in the first place and why graduates are able to apply for licensure. They just want to look special and to imply that other programs don't actually have hands-on training (which, of course, they all do).

Argh

Clinical psychology, is, by definition the application of psychological science to human problems and psychic suffering. That application is accomplished within several different modalties- understanding (ie., research), preventing (dissemination, education/outreach program evaluation), and relieving (clinical service delivery). My take is that these programs are emphasizing the "reliving" part only. That is, only the service delivery aspect. In other words, they are running a trade school, rather than educating/training clinical scientists who can work with patients.

 

[cara susanna]

That's really annoying of them. All clinical and counseling psychology is applied. That's why those programs are accredited by APA in the first place and why graduates are able to apply for licensure. They just want to look special and to imply that other programs don't actually have hands-on training (which, of course, they all do).

Argh

Yeah, but you get training in CLINICAL WORK, as opposed to that stupid irrelevant research and stats stuff! That's why Chicago School is applied!

(Post-doc apps are making me cranky)

 

[erg923]

I appreciate the opinions, but I would like to speak with someone who currently goes there.

I'm sure someone will PM you. I think we are just warning you to be vigilant of "confirmation bias" from anecdotal information as opposed to more accurate information (ie., more likely outcome) suggested by outcome data that is freely available on the internet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

 

[OneNeuroDoctor]

Is it marketing? A friend of mine finished his PhD in clinical psychology in the 90's. His school changed their name to Clinical Science Department recently. He is upset that they removed psychology from the department name.

 

[erg923]

I think you meant they changed the program name to clinical science. The department didn't change their name. Obviously the department offers other degrees/education other than clinical, so they wouldn't change the department name.

And "Upset?!" Why? What difference does it make to him now?

 

[OneNeuroDoctor]

I think you meant they changed the program name to clinical science. The department didn't change their name. Obviously the department offers other degrees/education other than clinical, so they wouldn't change the department name.

And "Upset?!" Why? What difference does it make to him now?

The department was mostly psychodynamic in the early 90's when he was there. He recently attended some type of alumni social and the Department is now called the Department of Psychological Science. He was there in the late 80's early 90's and he was not sure about having the change of name and no longer a psychodynamic emphasis. I can't say why he was complaining about the name change...I guess it is due to the whole changes of the complete department as all of the faculty are retired or moved on since he was a PhD student.

 

[erg923]

The department was mostly psychodynamic in the early 90's when he was there. He recently attended some type of alumni social and the Department is now called the Department of Psychological Science. He was there in the late 80's early 90's and he was not sure about having the change of name and no longer a psychodynamic emphasis. I can't say why he was complaining about the name change...I guess it is due to the whole changes of the complete department as all of the faculty are retired or moved on since he was a PhD student.

Ok. So they actually didn't change the department name to "Clinical Science Department ", as you stated in your original post.

Whats the differences between "Department of Psychology" and "Department of Psychological Science." Does it not mean the same thing?

I can't say why he was complaining about the name change...I guess it is due to the whole changes of the complete department as all of the faculty are retired or moved on since he was a PhD student.

Uh. People get older. People retire. What exactly did he expect to happen?

 

[OneNeuroDoctor]

Ok. So they actually didn't change the department name to "Clinical Science Department ", as you stated in your original post.

Whats the differences between "Department of Psychology" and "Department of Psychological Science." Does it not mean the same thing?



Uh. People get older. People retire. What exactly did he expect to happen?

It is already known that Psychology is a Science and redundant to add it, is my take. Similarly, why put applied in front of clinical psychology program name.

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

I believe only the Chicago or the Grayslake campus is currently APA accredited. The Irving or Orange County campus had applied for APA accreditation but withdrew their application.

How many "campuses" do they have?!

 

[OneNeuroDoctor]

Looks like they have campuses in Chicago, Grays Lake, Los Angeles, Irving, and DC with a campus opening up in New Orleans at Xavier University in 2015.

Only one is accredited and this is the Chicago campus.

 

[crazypsychstudent]

I'm sure someone will PM you. I think we are just warning you to be vigilant of "confirmation bias" from anecdotal information as opposed to more accurate information (ie., more likely outcome) suggested by outcome data that is freely available on the internet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

I know what confirmation bias is, please don't send me links to Wikipedia.

 

[erg923]

I know what confirmation bias is, please don't send me links to Wikipedia.

I didn't send you anything. I posted it within the thread. Dont look at it if you dont want to.

 

[WisNeuro]

I'm sure you'll get someone who is either a student, or a paid proponent of the school to talk to you. I'd rather look at the data and see what my chances are for internship and jobs down the road.

 

[463951]

Are you kidding me? I thought it was just Chicago, LA, and DC. Ugh. But seriously OP, you will do what you will, but I also know somebody who went to the accredited one (in Chicago), and this was maybe three years ago, but he talked about how difficult it was to get practicums because there were just too many students in the area in addition to the school (you also have Adler nearby bringing in cohorts of 100), he felt he did not get any individualized attention, and he was unable to really do any research. There were just too many students, the match rate sucks, and he is in a lot of debt.

 

[Sendtrees]

It's a terrible school with a terrible reputation and will hamper your future terribly. But I'm sure at some point, a paid "student" will show up and say great things about it. You will then have the answer you came for.

 

[erg923]

It's a terrible school with a terrible reputation and will hamper your future terribly.

Although that might be a bit dramatic, in my experience, the video below demostrates many student's attitude progression towards this program and program similar to it.

 

[PikminOC]

Are you kidding me? I thought it was just Chicago, LA, and DC. Ugh. But seriously OP, you will do what you will, but I also know somebody who went to the accredited one (in Chicago), and this was maybe three years ago, but he talked about how difficult it was to get practicums because there were just too many students in the area in addition to the school (you also have Adler nearby bringing in cohorts of 100), he felt he did not get any individualized attention, and he was unable to really do any research. There were just too many students, the match rate sucks, and he is in a lot of debt.

Is it really that dire?