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[DrSteven]

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For those of you up for a late night read, check this out: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/29/guatemala-experiments_n_941284.html

Very horrifying to read about the bridges researchers were/are willing to cross in order to get results and explore options.

 

[LizzyM]

Around that same period, NY physicians were deliberately infecting ******ed children in NY with hepatitis. The research was funded by the U.S. Army.

http://science.education.nih.gov/supplements/nih9/bioethics/guide/pdf/Master_5-4.pdf

 

[CodeBlu]

Around that same period, NY physicians were deliberately infecting ******ed children in NY with hepatitis. The research was funded by the U.S. Army.

http://science.education.nih.gov/supplements/nih9/bioethics/guide/pdf/Master_5-4.pdf

Be all you can be? Right Lizzy?
😉

 

[aSagacious]

... and then there was the HIV scandal in Libya in 1998, where six scientists supposedly intentionally infected 400 children with HIV for the sake of research.

 

[LizzyM]

... and then there was the HIV scandal in Libya in 1998, where six scientists supposedly intentionally infected 400 children with HIV for the sake of research.

Supposedly is the key word here. The whole story reads like a novel co-written by Robin Cook and John la Carre. Were these people scapegoats for poor practices at the hospital and then used as pawns in a trade for weapons and other favors? I don't have time to sort it out but I would not add it to the litany of research that raises questions of ethical impropriety.

 

[Scherbatsky]

For those of you up for a late night read, check this out: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/29/guatemala-experiments_n_941284.html

Very horrifying to read about the bridges researchers were/are willing to cross in order to get results and explore options.

Somewhat similar to the Tuskegee Syphilis experiment around the same time. The US governement studied syphilis in poor African-American men in Alabama, failing to inform the men of their condition just so they could see how it progressed. Disgusting.

 

[Epen]

Obligatory Shiro Ishii, Josef Mengele reference here

 

[LizzyM]

Somewhat similar to the Tuskegee Syphilis experiment around the same time. The US governement studied syphilis in poor African-American men in Alabama, failing to inform the men of their condition just so they could see how it progressed. Disgusting.

Actually, Tuskegee began in the 1930s, before antibiotics were available. Also, the men were not deliberately infected but infected in the community. However, they did not receive antibiotics when they did become available, and there has been debate as to whether their infections were too advanced at that point (15+ years of infection) to be effectively treated with antibiotics. It is unclear if they were deliberately mislead or if they were not well informed that the procedures performed were for research purposes and not meant to be therapeutic. On the other hand, the local draft board was asked not to draft them (so as not to lose them to follow-up) and that may have saved the lives of some who might have otherwise perished in WWII.

 

[AntiHouseMD]

I remember reading the book, "The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks", and most of the black population in the area where Lacks lived in were afraid to go to John Hopkins because they were afraid that medical experiments were being performed on African-Americans. After seeing what happened in Guatemala, I guess their fears weren't unfounded.

A horrifying story, and hopefully it doesn't happen again in the future.

 

[skely]

There was also the CIA testing LSD on people..........

 

[CodeBlu]

There was also the CIA testing LSD on people..........

Look up national geographic explorer... the LSD episode.

Very VERY interesting stuff.

As a pharmacology lover... the prospects are endless.

 

[skely]

Look up national geographic explorer... the LSD episode.

Very VERY interesting stuff.

As a pharmacology lover... the prospects are endless.

Yep that's what I was referring to.

 

[CodeBlu]

Yep that's what I was referring to.

Great episode!