Choosing a Residency

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I did a quick search, and most of the threads are dated, so I figured it would be permissive to post a new one.

I'm anticipating having a difficult time making a decision on what residency to ultimately choose, and if someone could give me something to chew on, I'd appreciate it. I scheduled IM and Surgery before the winter break because I realize that's the big "breaking point" - deciding between clinic and the OR. However, I'm having a rough time figuring out which I like more. I'm not asking for you guys to make a decision for me, just to tell me how you reached your decisions or if you're confronted with the same problems, etc.

A little background on me: I did a post-sophomore fellowship in pathology after MSII because I enjoyed pathophysiology, didn't think I would like talking to patients much, and am intellectually curious. I figured it would be a good learning opportunity (which it was), and it would be one of the last chances I would have to try something off of the "beaten path." I thought it was an okay way to make a living, but I wasn't very good at it. I guess that rules out path and radiology.

Enter third year - I started on family medicine. I instantly found that I was very good at talking to patients and establishing rapport. In fact, most of my evaluations reflected my dedication to my patients, ease of establishing rapport, and organizational ability with presenting patients to attendings.

My IM evaluations also reflected the same tone. I realized in IM that I was very good at critical thinking, deductive reasoning, and assembling the puzzle together to arrive at one conclusion with a differential (if I couldn't get it to the final step in the differental, I could always narrow it down to 2 or 3 viable options on the differential). I also met an attending who I felt was very influential. At one point, I said to myself, "I want to be just like him." I also realized that I love treating sick patients. I mean VERY sick patients...Yes, the outcomes aren't always good, but the satisfaction of being able to help someone when no one else can is extremely appealing to me.

Now, I'm on surgery, and I love the surgeon attitude. "There's the problem, let's go fix it." I'm impressed with taking a sick patient at time A and, shortly thereafter, them being better at time B (or at least feeling better). I could do without the callusness and lack of empathy, but there's nothing written in stone that says I have to be a cold hearted surgeon.

I'm fairly certain I won't want to do neurology (lack of intervention), psych (not my cup of tea), or peds. OB/GYN is a (very) distant possibility, but if I'm going to go that route, it would likely be because of the procedures, in which case I could just go with surgery.

I've taken every specialty aptitude test out there. They all give me varied results - mixtures of IM and surgical subspecialties all at the top. Like I said, if anyone out there can give me something to chew on, I'd appreciate it.
 
I did a quick search, and most of the threads are dated, so I figured it would be permissive to post a new one.

I'm anticipating having a difficult time making a decision on what residency to ultimately choose, and if someone could give me something to chew on, I'd appreciate it. I scheduled IM and Surgery before the winter break because I realize that's the big "breaking point" - deciding between clinic and the OR. However, I'm having a rough time figuring out which I like more. I'm not asking for you guys to make a decision for me, just to tell me how you reached your decisions or if you're confronted with the same problems, etc.

A little background on me: I did a post-sophomore fellowship in pathology after MSII because I enjoyed pathophysiology, didn't think I would like talking to patients much, and am intellectually curious. I figured it would be a good learning opportunity (which it was), and it would be one of the last chances I would have to try something off of the "beaten path." I thought it was an okay way to make a living, but I wasn't very good at it. I guess that rules out path and radiology.

Enter third year - I started on family medicine. I instantly found that I was very good at talking to patients and establishing rapport. In fact, most of my evaluations reflected my dedication to my patients, ease of establishing rapport, and organizational ability with presenting patients to attendings.

My IM evaluations also reflected the same tone. I realized in IM that I was very good at critical thinking, deductive reasoning, and assembling the puzzle together to arrive at one conclusion with a differential (if I couldn't get it to the final step in the differental, I could always narrow it down to 2 or 3 viable options on the differential). I also met an attending who I felt was very influential. At one point, I said to myself, "I want to be just like him." I also realized that I love treating sick patients. I mean VERY sick patients...Yes, the outcomes aren't always good, but the satisfaction of being able to help someone when no one else can is extremely appealing to me.

Now, I'm on surgery, and I love the surgeon attitude. "There's the problem, let's go fix it." I'm impressed with taking a sick patient at time A and, shortly thereafter, them being better at time B (or at least feeling better). I could do without the callusness and lack of empathy, but there's nothing written in stone that says I have to be a cold hearted surgeon.

I'm fairly certain I won't want to do neurology (lack of intervention), psych (not my cup of tea), or peds. OB/GYN is a (very) distant possibility, but if I'm going to go that route, it would likely be because of the procedures, in which case I could just go with surgery.

I've taken every specialty aptitude test out there. They all give me varied results - mixtures of IM and surgical subspecialties all at the top. Like I said, if anyone out there can give me something to chew on, I'd appreciate it.

Most people usually can at least distinguish between surgery vs. non surgical specialties. Since you seem to like everything, I would say FM-you get a little of everything, you can see all sorts of patients, some OB if you want, interact a ton with patients, do some minor procedures here and there.
 
I did a quick search, and most of the threads are dated, so I figured it would be permissive to post a new one.

I'm anticipating having a difficult time making a decision on what residency to ultimately choose, and if someone could give me something to chew on, I'd appreciate it. I scheduled IM and Surgery before the winter break because I realize that's the big "breaking point" - deciding between clinic and the OR. However, I'm having a rough time figuring out which I like more. I'm not asking for you guys to make a decision for me, just to tell me how you reached your decisions or if you're confronted with the same problems, etc.

A little background on me: I did a post-sophomore fellowship in pathology after MSII because I enjoyed pathophysiology, didn't think I would like talking to patients much, and am intellectually curious. I figured it would be a good learning opportunity (which it was), and it would be one of the last chances I would have to try something off of the "beaten path." I thought it was an okay way to make a living, but I wasn't very good at it. I guess that rules out path and radiology.

Enter third year - I started on family medicine. I instantly found that I was very good at talking to patients and establishing rapport. In fact, most of my evaluations reflected my dedication to my patients, ease of establishing rapport, and organizational ability with presenting patients to attendings.

My IM evaluations also reflected the same tone. I realized in IM that I was very good at critical thinking, deductive reasoning, and assembling the puzzle together to arrive at one conclusion with a differential (if I couldn't get it to the final step in the differental, I could always narrow it down to 2 or 3 viable options on the differential). I also met an attending who I felt was very influential. At one point, I said to myself, "I want to be just like him." I also realized that I love treating sick patients. I mean VERY sick patients...Yes, the outcomes aren't always good, but the satisfaction of being able to help someone when no one else can is extremely appealing to me.

Now, I'm on surgery, and I love the surgeon attitude. "There's the problem, let's go fix it." I'm impressed with taking a sick patient at time A and, shortly thereafter, them being better at time B (or at least feeling better). I could do without the callusness and lack of empathy, but there's nothing written in stone that says I have to be a cold hearted surgeon.

I'm fairly certain I won't want to do neurology (lack of intervention), psych (not my cup of tea), or peds. OB/GYN is a (very) distant possibility, but if I'm going to go that route, it would likely be because of the procedures, in which case I could just go with surgery.

I've taken every specialty aptitude test out there. They all give me varied results - mixtures of IM and surgical subspecialties all at the top. Like I said, if anyone out there can give me something to chew on, I'd appreciate it.

Have you thought about anesthesiology? Good mixture of medicine (critical thinking, ddx) and surgery (procedures, instant results), sick patients, short but important patient interactions, and you can work in OR, ICU (CCM), or clinic (pain)
 
How about some of the IM subspecialties? Pulmono and interventional cardiology has a ton of procedures with a mix of the IM-deductive work.

How about lifestyle? What kind of lifestyle and family life do you want to have? Do you want to be doing any primary care or do you want to be a specialist only?
 
I did a quick search, and most of the threads are dated, so I figured it would be permissive to post a new one.

I'm anticipating having a difficult time making a decision on what residency to ultimately choose, and if someone could give me something to chew on, I'd appreciate it. I scheduled IM and Surgery before the winter break because I realize that's the big "breaking point" - deciding between clinic and the OR. However, I'm having a rough time figuring out which I like more. I'm not asking for you guys to make a decision for me, just to tell me how you reached your decisions or if you're confronted with the same problems, etc.

A little background on me: I did a post-sophomore fellowship in pathology after MSII because I enjoyed pathophysiology, didn't think I would like talking to patients much, and am intellectually curious. I figured it would be a good learning opportunity (which it was), and it would be one of the last chances I would have to try something off of the "beaten path." I thought it was an okay way to make a living, but I wasn't very good at it. I guess that rules out path and radiology.

Enter third year - I started on family medicine. I instantly found that I was very good at talking to patients and establishing rapport. In fact, most of my evaluations reflected my dedication to my patients, ease of establishing rapport, and organizational ability with presenting patients to attendings.

My IM evaluations also reflected the same tone. I realized in IM that I was very good at critical thinking, deductive reasoning, and assembling the puzzle together to arrive at one conclusion with a differential (if I couldn't get it to the final step in the differental, I could always narrow it down to 2 or 3 viable options on the differential). I also met an attending who I felt was very influential. At one point, I said to myself, "I want to be just like him." I also realized that I love treating sick patients. I mean VERY sick patients...Yes, the outcomes aren't always good, but the satisfaction of being able to help someone when no one else can is extremely appealing to me.

Now, I'm on surgery, and I love the surgeon attitude. "There's the problem, let's go fix it." I'm impressed with taking a sick patient at time A and, shortly thereafter, them being better at time B (or at least feeling better). I could do without the callusness and lack of empathy, but there's nothing written in stone that says I have to be a cold hearted surgeon.

I'm fairly certain I won't want to do neurology (lack of intervention), psych (not my cup of tea), or peds. OB/GYN is a (very) distant possibility, but if I'm going to go that route, it would likely be because of the procedures, in which case I could just go with surgery.

I've taken every specialty aptitude test out there. They all give me varied results - mixtures of IM and surgical subspecialties all at the top. Like I said, if anyone out there can give me something to chew on, I'd appreciate it.

This sounds like the following:

ER
IM---> Interventional Cards/GI
IM---> Pulmonary/CC
Anesthesia + CC
 
I've thought a lot about pulm/critical care and it might be where I end up. Interventional cardiology is also a possibility, but it feels so limited in the scope of practice and so decision tree based. Chest pain? Angina? Ischemia? Cath. The procedures aren't all that difficult or varied, either.

For the record, lifestyle isn't terribly important to me. I'm not miserable with working 60-80 hours per week. I think I could adjust to more than that pretty easily. I also wouldn't complain if it were less than that. Just not a high point on my list of importance.
 
I've thought a lot about pulm/critical care and it might be where I end up. Interventional cardiology is also a possibility, but it feels so limited in the scope of practice and so decision tree based. Chest pain? Angina? Ischemia? Cath. The procedures aren't all that difficult or varied, either.

For the record, lifestyle isn't terribly important to me. I'm not miserable with working 60-80 hours per week. I think I could adjust to more than that pretty easily. I also wouldn't complain if it were less than that. Just not a high point on my list of importance.
Interventional cardiology has some of the most variety of any specialty. They perform coronary angiograms, coronary Stenting which can often be extremely complex and challenging (calcified lesions, bifurcation lesions, left main stenting in pt with low EF, ostial lesions), renal artery stenting, renal artery deinnevation, carotid stenting, lower extremity interventions including atherectomy, asd/pfo/PDA/vsd closure, valvuloplasty, transcatherer valve replacement, mitral valve clipping, paravalvular leak closure, alcohol septal ablation, etc. Also many interventionists also read echo's, nuclear studies, cardiac CT, an peripheral vascular ultrasounds. Also many interventionists also attend in the CCU. It's not for everyone, but variety should not be a reason against it.
 
Saying interventional cards is not complex enough is simply ignorant. In fact saying most anything isn't complex enough with the knowledge a medical student has is totally ignorant.

OP, I think you are thinking too much. Let it sit for a few days/weeks. Try and learn a lot on the rest of your rotations. Then come back to the decision. It takes a long time to really appreciate any one field and the knowledge you gain as a third year is very limited during the rotation. You'd be surprised how far you will have come when you finish 3rd year and are starting step 2 studying. Also, the decision honestly will come down to a gut check. One will just feel right.

Obviously if you like the OR and doing open operations you should do some sort of surgical field. But if that is not make or break then do a medical field. There are plenty of fields which involve lots of procedures if you want to do something (EM, IM fellowships, anesthesia, etc). I'm not going to say what you should or should not do as that is a decision I think you will be able to come up with on your own. Just listen to what feels right and stop thinking so much. Good luck!
 
Saying interventional cards is not complex enough is simply ignorant. In fact saying most anything isn't complex enough with the knowledge a medical student has is totally ignorant.

So, in essence, we're all making completely ignorant decisions about our future professions.
 
So, in essence, we're all making completely ignorant decisions about our future professions.

I wouldn't say completely, but I'd say a good portion of medical students don't know what they are really getting into when they pick a specialty. Things have a way of working out in the end for most people, but it is really hard to appreciate the nuances of different specialties with the experience that most medical students get. I do disagree with 'intcards' about IC having variety. Not that it doesn't have variety, but listing all of the different proceedures that some of them do doesn't really mean much. The vast majority of IC do 90%+ heart caths. The complexity comes in from the complexity of heart phisology.
 
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