Columbia and UCLA

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Would you recommend going to your school/Do you like your school so far?

  • Yes - Columbia

    Votes: 7 33.3%
  • Yes - UCLA

    Votes: 15 71.4%
  • No - Columbia

    Votes: 3 14.3%
  • No - UCLA

    Votes: 1 4.8%

  • Total voters
    21
  • Poll closed .

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I'm trying to decide between these two schools right now, and I am having a horrible time trying to decide which school would be better for me. I was wondering if any of you kind dental students from either school can tell me your experiences at your schools so far. 🙂 Eg. curriculum, student atmosphere, etc. And I just want to thank you guys in advance and ANY help would be great, because I feel so stressed out even though I got into two great schools


EDIT: By the way, why have 9 people voted but results add up to 12 total votes??? 😕 I am would really appreciate your honest opinion on this topic 🙁
 
my very biased vote is for UCLA 🙂

-just a pre UCLA dent
 
enginerd said:
I'm trying to decide between these two schools right now, and I am having a horrible time trying to decide which school would be better for me. I was wondering if any of you kind dental students from either school can tell me your experiences at your schools so far. 🙂 Eg. curriculum, student atmosphere, etc. And I just want to thank you guys in advance and ANY help would be great, because I feel so depressed even though I got into two great schools 🙁

You got into UCLA and Columbia, and you're depressed? Dude. You gotta explain that one to me. Some people on these forums would kill to be in your position.

My thoughts:

The courseload at UCLA is pretty heavy. During your first and second years your classes will keep you busy. I felt that our first year was much less intense than our second year. In winter quarter of 2nd year I believe we took 13 classes. Granted some of these are no-brainer courses like Patient Management, but still the load is undeniably heavy. However, this never prevented me from having a social life. I still managed to hang out with friends, and spend some weekends with my family, and I have a girlfriend that I spend a lot of time with. The number of classes initially sounds daunting, but once you learn the ropes it's not bad. Classes will, no doubt, keep you busy, but they won't make you go crazy. On the plus side, I think the strong didactic courseload prepares UCLA students very well for boards Part I. Studying for boards was more a review of material for me than it was learning new material. I thought this translated to less time studying but higher scores -- anecdotal evidence to be sure, but take it for what it's worth.

My classmates are an amazing group of people. From the start of our first year we made a commitment to work together rather than against each other. Study materials and class notes are freely shared among the entire class, and the level of competition is much less than I had anticipated. I think maybe the P/NP system has something to do with this, but still, my classmates have been great. There hasn't been any of the cut-throat 'gunner' behavior I was expecting. I was definitely pleasantly surprised. I am also pleased with the faculty thus far. The vast majority of professors and clinic instructors are helpful, friendly, and approachable.

Are curriculum and student atmosphere the primary determinants of your decision? If they are, I don't think you could go wrong with UCLA. If you have other specific concerns, let me know what they are and I'd be happy to address them. I never applied nor interviewed at Columbia, so I don't have anything to say about the school.

Good luck with your decision.
 
Two things...location and cost. Which ones are important to you and why? Is there a huge difference in cost between the two? You don't have a Dodgers avatar, so I'm gonna assume you like NYC. Either way you win
 
oldboy said:
Two things...location and cost. Which ones are important to you and why? Is there a huge difference in cost between the two? You don't have a Dodgers avatar, so I'm gonna assume you like NYC. Either way you win

Well, I would prefer California, but I've already been at UCLA for four years now and a change of scenery would be nice. The cost difference is $15K a year.

Revellian said:
You got into UCLA and Columbia, and you're depressed? Dude. You gotta explain that one to me.

Yea, I know, but I just can't find a clear cut answer as to which school is better for me. I was only given a week to think about this and Columbia is pushing for a decision. I wasn't clear before but the short deadline is why I'm stressing.
 
Let me share this story with you to help you make your decision if you haven't already...

A dog is holding a bone, standing on a bridge, looking down a river. He sees another "bone" down there. He thought that bone were a better bone. So he let go the bone he has in order to get the other "bone"...

Your experience at UCLA might not have been great to you. But do you know how it's really like at Columbia? Why let go something to get something else that you are unsure of? Let alone other good stuffs that attending a Cal school gives you. Almost all Californian leave California because they don't get accepted by a Cal school. And now you're thinking about dropping UCLA for Columbia?
 
Most uninsightful story ever...How's that suppose to help him with his decision? Not saying one school is better than the other, but just for story -sake: What if that new bone turned out to be the best bone the dogs ever had in his freaking life? I say you cant go wrong here, so if i were you id base my decision by flipping a coin.. heads/ucla..... tails/columbia. Problem solved!
 
twoth_lover said:
Let me share this story with you to help you make your decision if you haven't already...

A dog is holding a bone, standing on a bridge, looking down a river. He sees another "bone" down there. He thought that bone were a better bone. So he let go the bone he has in order to get the other "bone"...

Your experience at UCLA might not have been great to you. But do you know how it's really like at Columbia? Why let go something to get something else that you are unsure of? Let alone other good stuffs that attending a Cal school gives you. Almost all Californian leave California because they don't get accepted by a Cal school. And now you're thinking about dropping UCLA for Columbia?

can the dog swim?
 
Buttertooth said:
Most uninsightful story ever...How's that suppose to help him with his decision? Not saying one school is better than the other, but just for story -sake: What if that new bone turned out to be the best bone the dogs ever had in his freaking life? I say you cant go wrong here, so if i were you id base my decision by flipping a coin.. heads/ucla..... tails/columbia. Problem solved!
I know you would. Not only will the story help him make his decision, but it will also help him think about what's going on in life. The "bone" that the dog sees in the river is the image of the bone he's holding. Quite often people don't value what they have until they lose it.
 
enginerd said:
Well, I would prefer California, but I've already been at UCLA for four years now and a change of scenery would be nice. The cost difference is $15K a year.

So I guess the question is whether or not a change in scenery for four years is worth $60,000? Personally, I've had my fill of the east coast. I lived in Connecticut and Pennsylvania for 12 years and I'm tired of the winters. There are some people that love the change in seasons. I'm not one of them. Give me warm, sunny days and I'll be happy.
 
Ok because i'm bored... i'll give my two cents in...

I went to undergrad at ucla and worked AND did research for the dental school and took some predent courses there and know people that have graduated and will graduate from UCLA dental. The school itself is wonderful (the facilities last I've saw about 3/4 or so year ago... is ok... the Basement floor where I worked is beautiful) They get a lot of students into specialites... the location can't be better... I miss living in westwood... although I opted not to go to UCLA's interview for PG (only cause I got my offer at my #1 choice already) but I definately would recommend it highly. However, I have heard rumors (from people that like to tell me about this person I know that goes there...that they have trouble finding patients and meeting graduation requirements... I don't know how true this is...althought when I was an undergrad student I heard the same rumors...) Tution and the knowledge you'll get at ucla will be excellent.

so about Columbia Dental (which I know a LOT more about). If I had to do it all again... I would definately do w/o a doubt be at Columbia. Being that I'm 2 weeks (wahoooooo) from graduation and have gone thru it... it was all worth it. Two of my classmmates and I were just talking about how much we've learned and how great the school really is... there's a LOT of rumor about the clinical aspect of CU...but you'll do a lot of clinical work (if you want to). Most of the clinical work is concentrated in 4th year, but you're pretty much in clinic/rotation 4 or 5 days of the week... You have a LOT of clinic time 4th year. You have your own chair 2.5 days a week seeing your normal adult patients... and the other 2.5 days or so you're in other clinics like pedo, oral surgery, radiology, etc etc, The days you see your normal patients are LONG. it's typically from 9AM to 5 or 7PM. I had two days a week where i"m there ALL day from 9AM to 7PM and one friday every other week from 9 to 5PM. You'll have NO problems w/ patients... there's an abundant of them... there are times where they're begging us to take them into our roster. 3rd year is a little more lax but you're eased into clinic and the requirments are increasing each school yr.... 2nd year was miserable for me...but some liked it more than 1st year...but I found 2nd year to be the hardest and I can still remember the not-so-happy and lack of sleep mood I was constantly in....but I heard it's gotten better w/ the new course director (who's realllllllllllllllly nice) for pathophys...2nd year was just constantly taking exams...1st year wasn't so bad... but that's cause i'm not a gunner and i didn't study crazy hours like most people (except the weekend before exam blocks) but I thought 1st year was very managable. Columbia gets people into speciality programs too 🙂 Most of my classmmates are going to their #1 choice (a few probably #2) PG programs/specialites.
The hardest part of columbia for me...is actually getting thru the winters. Being a Californian, it's tough...but it seems like you're a Yankee's fan so you're probably used to it. Overall, it was really worth it, I've met a lot of wonderful people and made lifetime friends and I'm going to miss my classmates terribly and I'm actually kinda sad we're dispersing all over the country. It's been a great 4 years.

Just remember, no matter where you end up going, it's going to be hard w/ lots and lots of work and long long long nights/days/weeks of studying and lab 🙂 but it'll fly right by!

good luck. either choice, you can't lose 🙂

edit: okie i see you're a bruin also...so you know ucla just as well as i do 🙂 btw i voted yes to both 🙂
 
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