Confusion about being a DO

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I was looking up DO in Canada and was suprised that there are 2 colleges of Osteopathy. The Collège d'Études Ostéopathiques in Montreal and the Canadian College of Osteopathy in Toronto.
Also that the graduates receive a Diploma in Osteopathic Manual Practice . The College uses the term Manual Practice to distinguish it from medical practice that is reserved for those Osteopaths who have trained in the United States as physicians but they both use the initals DO.


I imagine this must cause a lot of confusion! Anyone know more about this?

 

[OSUdoc08]

I was looking up DO in Canada and was suprised that there are 2 colleges of Osteopathy. The Collège d'Études Ostéopathiques in Montreal and the Canadian College of Osteopathy in Toronto.
Also that the graduates receive a Diploma in Osteopathic Manual Practice . The College uses the term Manual Practice to distinguish it from medical practice that is reserved for those Osteopaths who have trained in the United States as physicians but they both use the initals DO.


I imagine this must cause a lot of confusion! Anyone know more about this?

This parallels the training and scope of practice that chiropractors have.

It is identical to the system in place for osteopaths in Europe.

This is why american DO's are often not allowed the full scope of practice in certain Canadian provinces.

It is unfortunate that the title is the same.

 

[docbill]

This is why american DO's are often not allowed the full scope of practice in certain Canadian provinces.

That is not the reason. US DO's can practice in almost all the provinces. The main reason for not being able to work in every province has something to do with provincial college of medicine and not enough money to take in outside physicians.

There is also a requirement to set precedent. A US trained DO with ACGME residency can most likely challange every single provincial college of medicine and get accepted.

The Osteopathic schools in Canada are actually one. With two sites. They only train OMM and don't get the same degree. It is actually a diploma in Osteopathy and not Doctoral degree

 

[(nicedream)]

That is not the reason. US DO's can practice in almost all the provinces. The main reason for not being able to work in every province has something to do with provincial college of medicine and not enough money to take in outside physicians.

So what about the lack of full licensing in most countries of the world?

 

[Megalofyia]

So what about the lack of full licensing in most countries of the world?

American MDs can't practice in every country either. A lot of it has to do with politics and the experience that country has with american DOs.

 

[docbill]

American MDs can't practice in every country either. A lot of it has to do with politics and the experience that country has with american DOs.

dittoooo

 

[OSUdoc08]

American MDs can't practice in every country either. A lot of it has to do with politics and the experience that country has with american DOs.

MD's can practice in many more countries than DO's can.

 

[beastmaster]

MD's can practice in many more countries than DO's can.

Can you list some please.

 

[(nicedream)]

MD's can practice in many more countries than DO's can.

This is the best thing OSUdoc has ever posted 😉

DOs international practice rights are horrible compared to MDs, that's a well-established fact. Practice rights are the exception. It is NOT, as megalofyia suggested, comparable to MDs international experience.

If you do a search on the member portion of the AOA site, there is .pdf file with DOs practice rights in various countries. Make sure you read the explanations, because more often than not "full practice rights" when even present means they allowed some DO to do something in 1976 or something.

 

[(nicedream)]

Can you list some please.

Basically everywhere...England, France, Germany, etc etc
In Ireland there was actually a case of a US soccer teams DO physician traveling with the team to play in Ireland, and the country would not even let him treat the US teams own players.

 

[Chief Resident]

AOA INTERNATIONAL LICENSURE SUMMARY

July 2004

This summary of licensure availability in international countries for graduates of United States osteopathic medical schools is revised and expanded on a continual basis. Some countries have definite policies regarding either the licensure of D.O.s, the licensure of internationally trained physicians and health care practitioners and/or the licensure of non-citizens. A few countries have consistently refused to grant U.S.-trained D.O.s full practice rights, often permitting them to perform only manipulation and sometimes refusing to grant them any type of practice. Other countries, however, are simply not educated on the qualifications of U.S.-trained D.O.s and their equivalence in education, training and practice to M.D.s. To that end, communication with international health care officials can be a time consuming and formidable task.

There are a few issues to keep in mind when researching licensure possibilities in foreign countries. Many countries that were or continue to be under British influence adhere to Britain's definition of an "osteopath," a non-physician health care practitioner who practices only manipulation. Due to the similarity of the titles, many of these countries refuse to grant U.S.-trained D.O.s practice rights beyond the scope of manipulation.

Further, the procedure by which international countries consider granting physician licensure to foreigners is not consistent among all countries. The procedure can take the form of a simple interview with a Minister of Health or Medical Board, a handshake with a governmental insider or the submission to a battery of examinations, intensive residencies and the like.

Also, the intent and type of practice sought by the U.S.-trained D.O. might warrant a substantially different application procedure. For example, those who are interested in working on a volunteer basis or for a mission often find the process less hindered by paperwork and legal regulations. For this reason, an applicant should be as clear as possible about his or her intentions when making a written inquiry.

The following is a catalog of countries in which the AOA has investigated osteopathic licensure. Included in each country's listing is the year in which the last request for updated licensure status was made, the scope of osteopathic practice in that country, an overview of issues specific to that country and the contact for licensure inquiries. As you will note, information regarding many of these countries is out-of-date and has not been reevaluated. In addition, licensure status can change from year to year - so it is encouraged that the individual contact the appropriate authority well in advance of an expected visit or move.

Should you wish to investigate licensure possibilities in a country not listed below or would like to have more information regarding one of the listed countries, please contact the AOA Division of State Government Affairs, 142 East Ontario, Chicago IL 60611; (800) 621-1773 ext. 8184. Further, it would be of great help to the AOA and other osteopathic physicians if the AOA Division of State Government Affairs were notified of the outcome of any inquiries. In addition, if correspondence from international health agencies is received, please forward copies for the files maintained at the AOA.

 

[Chief Resident]

Argentina
Year of Last Request: 1994
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Per correspondence from the Ministry of Culture and Education, it appears that U.S.-trained D.O.s will be permitted to obtain a full physician license in Argentina in accordance with requirements for all foreign physicians. Argentine law does not specifically include osteopathic medicine or the D.O. degree; instead, foreign physicians must submit credentials to various agencies and then appear before any of the National Universities in order to have their diploma considered as an Argentine equivalent.
Contact: Argentine Consulate closest to professional residence

Aruba
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: denied
Per its director, the Aruba Public Health Department can only issue a license to graduates from five U.S. medical schools, none of which are osteopathic medical schools.
Contact: Director,
Public Health Department
Oranjestad
ARUBA

Australia
Year of Last Request: 2000
Scope of Practice: varies
A U.S. educated and trained osteopathic physician was recruited to head up an emergency room in the suburbs of Sydney. Through the efforts of the hospital, he secured an unlimited medical license through the New South Wales Medical Board upon endorsement of the Australian College of Emergency Medicine. It appears that licensure would be dependent on the state. Previously, the Australia Medical Council denied a request by the AOA to recognize U.S. educated and trained D.O.s for the unlimited practice of medicine.
Contact: New South Wales Medical Board
Medical Board Building
Off Punt Road
PO Box 104
Gladesville NSW 1675
New South Wales
AUSTRALIA
http://www.nswmb.org.au

Australian Medical Council
PO Box 4810
Kingston Act 2604
AUSTRALIA
http://www.amc.org.au

Austria
Year of Last Request: 1994
Scope of Practice: unlimited, but difficult to obtain
In order to practice in Austria, a hospital must have a position available, which cannot otherwise be filled by an Austrian physician.
Contact: Austrian Medical Chamber
Weihburggasse 10-12
A1010 Vienna
AUSTRIA
http://www.aek.or.at

Bahamas
Year of Last Request: 1997
Scope of Practice: unlimited
In January 1997, the Bahamian Medical Council, for the first time, issued a license to practice cardiac and vascular surgery to a U.S.-trained D.O.
Contact: Registrar
Bahamian Medical Council
PO Box N-9802
Nassau
BAHAMAS

Barbados
Year of Last Request: 1974
Scope of Practice: limited to manipulation
No provision for registration or licensure of osteopathic physicians exists yet the Ministry of Health and Welfare refused to grant full practice rights to a U.S.-trained D.O. in 1974.
Contact: Barbados Medical Council
Minister of Health
Old Hospital Building
Jemmott's Lane
St. Michael
BARBADOS

Belize
Year of Last Request: 2004
Scope of Practice: unlimited
There is no legislative authority governing the licensure of osteopathic physicians. Foreign physicians will only be considered for registration if a Belizean physician will not be displaced. The AOA was notified that a US-educated DO was granted a temporary license as a psychiatrist in Belize.
Contact: Ministry of Health and Sports
East Block
Independence Hill
Belmopan
BELIZE

Bermuda
Year of Last Request: 1997
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Applicants must have graduated from an approved college of osteopathic medicine accredited by the AOA, have successfully completed two years of postgraduate training as a minimum, and must be examined by the Council’s Examination Committee or interviewed by the Council. Non-Bermudan physicians must have approval from the Ministry of Labour and Home Affairs to work on the island.
Contact: Bermuda Medical Council
PO Box 1195
Hamilton 5
BERMUDA

Bolivia
Year of Last Request: 1988
Scope of Practice: unknown
According to AOA file information, a response was not received from the Embassy.
Contact: Embassy of Bolivia
3014 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20008

Colegio Medico de Bolivia
Calle Ballivian 1266
La Paz
BOLIVIA

Brazil
Year of Last Request: 2000
Scope of Practice: unlimited
A U.S. educated osteopathic physician was granted an unlimited license to practice medicine in Brazil. It is a difficult process and requires taking and passing a Brazilian examination., establishing residency, and do some training in Brazilian hospitals.
Contact: AMB
Avenue Brig
Liuz Antonio 278 2 Andar
Sao Paulo 01318
BRAZIL

 

[Chief Resident]

Cambodia
Year of Last Request: 1992
Scope of Practice: unknown
Several attempts to contact the Minister of Health in Cambodia have failed, most likely due to the current political unrest. No Cambodian Embassy exists in the United States, yet the AOA has established a contact through a non profit, Cambodian-advocacy organization the director of which has ties with Cambodian Health officials.
Contact: Cambodian Medical Association
#73 Boulevard Preah Monivong
Phnom Penh
CAMBODIA

Canada
Listed below are the licensure requirements for US-trained D.O.s in the provinces and territories of Canada. All the provinces that have provisions for licensing D.O.s as physicians require that D.O.s be graduates of AOA-accredited osteopathic medical colleges and they be or intend to become Canadian citizens. For the provinces or territories that state, “no provisions exist for licensing US-trained D.O.s,” it is suggested the individual contact that regulatory authority. While there may not be a provision, the regulatory agency may consider amending its current policy to include recognition of US-trained D.O.s.

Alberta
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Requirements: Must have completed at least 2 years of GME accredited by the ACGME or AOA and must have passed the Universities Coordinating Council Exam, a basic sciences exam, and have passed all three parts of the licensing examination of the Medical Council of Canada (LMCC).
Contact: College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta
900 Manulife Place
10180-101 Street
Edmonton Alberta T5J 4P8
CANADA
(780) 423-4764
http://www.cpsa.ab.ca

British Columbia
Scope of Practice: one licensure pathway provides D.O.s with unlimited practice rights, and another pathway limits D.O.s to practice OMM
Requirements: To be eligible for unlimited licenses: must have completed at least one year of GME approved by the AOA or the ACGME, completed at least 1 year of GME in Canada, passed all three parts of the LMCC. For licenses limited to OMM: must have completed at least 2 years of AOA approved GME and passed all three parts of the NBOME or COMLEX.
Contact: College of Physicians and Surgeons of British Columbia
1807 W. 10th Avenue
Vancouver British Columbia V6J 2A9
CANADA
(604) 733-7758
http://cpsbc.bc.ca

Manitoba
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Requirements: In 2002, the College voted to register U.S.-educated and trained DOs.
Contact: College of Physicians and Surgeons of Manitoba
1000-1661 Portage Avenue
Winnipeg Manitoba R3J 3T7
CANADA
(204) 774-4344
http://www.cpsm.mb.ca

New Brunswick
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Requirements: Must have completed at least 2 years of GME approved by the AOA or the ACGME and have passed all three parts of the LMCC. There is also a reciprocity pathway for D.O.s holding a license to practice medicine in Maine.
Contact: College of Physicians and Surgeons of New Brunswick
1 Hampton Road, Suite 200
Rothesay, New Brunswick E2E 5K8
CANADA
(506) 849-5050
http://cpsnb.org

Newfoundland
Scope of Practice to be determined
Requirements: in 2002, the College committed itself to seeing that the government establishes a registration pathway for U.S.-educated D.O.s. It is anticipated that establishing guidelines may take a couple of years.
Contact: Newfoundland Medical Board
139 Water Street, Suite 603
St. John’s Newfoundland A1C 1B2
CANADA
(709) 726-8546

Northwest Territories
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Requirements: While no specific provisions are in place, the AOA has been told the government will grant registration to any physician that qualifies for licensure in any other province.
Contact: Government of the Northwest Territories
Centre Square Tower 8th Floor
Yellowknife NWT X1A 2L9
CANADA
(867) 920-8058

Nova Scotia
Scope of Practice: unlimited
A new regulation was put into effect in 2002 to recognize U.S.-educated osteopathic physicians.
Contact: Provincial Medical Board of Nova Scotia
Sentry Place
1559 Brunswick Street, Suite 200
Halifax Nova Scotia B3J 2G1
CANADA
(902) 422-5823
http://www.cpsns.ns.ca

Ontario
Scope of Practice: Unlimited
In 2002, the Premier of Ontario and the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario (CPSO) announced that changes were being implemented to recognize international medical graduates, including D.O.s who are now recognizing by the CPSO. In addition, the CPSO has created a Fast Track Assessment Program for international medical graduates who wish to practice in Ontario. The Fast Track Assessment is an expedited process designed for doctors with experience. It focuses on an evaluation of practice skills and can be tailored to the individual applicant. By evaluating the practice skills of the individual doctor rather than looking at the grades and training programs, the College acquires a more realistic view of the abilities of the individual physicians. For more recent graduates, there is the Standard Assessment process. It concentrates on examination grades and completion of an approved course of education and residency. All candidates are assessed in the same way. For more information on Ontario’s registration, go to http://www.cpso.on.ca/info_physician...nts/regist.htm.
Contact: College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario
80 College Street
Toronto Ontario M5G 2E2
CANADA
(416) 967-2600
http://www.cpso.on.ca

Prince Edward Island
Scope of Practice: no provisions exist for licensing US-trained D.O.s
Contact: College of Physicians and Surgeons of Prince Edward Island
199 Grafton Street
Charlottetown, PEI C1A 1L2
CANADA
(902) 566-3861

Quebec
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Requirements: Must have completed at least 1 year of GME approved by the AOA or the ACGME, must have completed at least 1 year of GME in Quebec, passed the written, oral and clinical board examination of the College of Family Physicians of Canada and must speak French fluently.
Contact: College des Medecins du Quebec
2170 Rene-Levesque Blvd West
Montreal Quebec H3H 2T8
CANADA
(514) 933-4441
http://www.cmq.org

Saskatchewan
Scope of Practice: limited to OMM
Requirements: Must have completed at least 1 year of AOA-approved GME.
Contact: College of Physicians and Surgeons of Saskatchewan
211 Fourth Avenue South
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan S7K 1N1
CANADA
(306) 244-7355
http://www.quadrant.net/cpss

Yukon Territory
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Requirements: While no specific provisions are in place, the AOA has been told the government will grant registration to any physician that qualifies for licensure in any other province.
Contact: Government of the Yukon
PO Box 2703
Whitehorse, Yukon Y1A 2C6
CANADA
(867) 667-5257

 

[Chief Resident]

Cayman Islands
Year of Last Request: 1983
Scope of Practice: unlimited
A D.O. was granted an unlimited license to practice medicine in 1983. This represented a significant accomplishment, as the Islands are a British protectorate. Written examinations are not required for licensure and licensure is granted based on the applicant's academic degree and qualifications. No distinctions were placed on the D.O. degree and the government accepted his osteopathic credentials.
Contact: Chief Medical Officer
Tower Building
Grand Cayman,
CAYMAN ISLANDS

Central African Empire
Year of Last Request: sometime before 1990
Scope of Practice: unlimited
The D.O. degree and proof of licensure in one of the fifty U.S. states, plus annual attendance at the National Congress for Physicians is all that is required for licensure in the Central African Empire. No examination is required and students wishing to study tropical disease are not required to obtain permits and the like. Letters of inquiry must be written in French or Sago, which are the native languages.
Contact: Minister of Health
Bangui
CENTRAL AFRICAN EMPIRE

Chile
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Application for a practice license must be made to the University of Chile through the submission and transfer of the physician's medical diploma. A written exam, in Spanish, is required.
Contact: Directora Escuela de Pregrado
Universidad de Chile
Avda. Independencia No. 1027
Santiago
CHILE

Colegio Medico de Chile
Esmeralda 678
Santiago
CHILE

China
Year of Last Request: 1994
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Chinese law does not provide specifically for osteopathic medicine or the U.S. D.O. degree. For this reason, U.S. trained D.O.s are permitted to apply for "Short Term Medical Practice."
Contact: Dr. Zhao Minggang, Official
Division of Hospital Management
Dept of Medical Administration
Ministry of Public Health
People's Republic of China
44 Houhai Beiyan
Beijing
CHINA

State Administration Tradition Chinese Medicine P.1.C.
7 Donping Road
Chaoyang District
Beijing 00027
CHINA

Colombia
Year of Last Request: 1996
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Colombian law does not specifically state restrictions of osteopathic practice. Therefore, U.S.-trained D.O.s are permitted to submit their credentials according to the same procedure administered to other foreign physicians. They must contact the Colombian consulate closest to their professional residence for verification of original degree, then contact the Foreign Affairs Ministry in Colombia. All transcripts, programs of study, and copies of identification must be translated into Spanish and be notarized.
Contact: Ministry of Public Health
Calle 16 No. 7-39
Bogota
COLOMBIA

Costa Rica
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Several requirements exist for foreign physicians wanting to practice in Costa Rica. Unless the physician was contracted individually by state institutions or marries a Costa Rican, the physician must have resided in the country for at least 5 years and will be required to serve both a one-year internship in a hospital and a one year service in the Medical Sanitary Service. The physician's diploma will be considered equivalent to that issued by the University of Chile in order to receive a practice license.
Contact: Colegio de Medicos y Cirujanos
Republica de Costa Rica
Apartado 548
San Jose
COSTA RICA

Denmark
Year of Last Request: 1995
Scope of Practice: unknown
The AOA did not receive a response to its request for information on how a U.S. educated D.O. could obtain licensure.
Contact: Danish National Board of Health
PO Box 2020
Amaliegade 13
DK-1012 Copenhagen
DENMARK
http://www.sum.dk

Dominican Republic
Year of Last Request: 2000
Scope of Practice: unlimited
On July 4, 2000, legislation was enacted that recognizes U.S. educated osteopathic physicians for the unlimited practice of medicine. The law also recognizes AOA postgraduate training and board certification.
Contact: Dr. Victorino de Jesus Garcia Santos
Secretario de Estado
Ensached La Fe
Santo Domingo,
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC

 

[Chief Resident]

Ecuador
Year of Last Request: sometime before 1990
Scope of Practice: unlimited
In order to practice in Ecuador, foreign-trained physicians must obtain an Ecuadorian medical license. This license is conferred upon passage of all Ecuadorian medical school examinations, the writing of a thesis in Spanish and completion of an internship. Temporary permits are available and registration must be confirmed annually. Reciprocity exists with most Latin American countries.
Contact: Ministerio de Salud Publica
Quito
ECUADOR

Egypt
Date of Last Request: 1999
Scope of Practice: unknown
The AOA did not receive a response to its request for information on how a U.S. educated D.O. could obtain licensure.
Contact: Egyptian medical Syndicate
42 Kasr El-Aini Street
Cairo
EGYPT

Finland
Year of Last Request: 1996
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Foreign trained physicians may only enjoy full practice rights in Finland with the permission of the Finnish National Board of Health. Knowledge of the Finnish language and a work permit are requirements.
Contact: National Authority for Medicolegal Affairs
PO Box 265
FIN-00531 Helsinki
FINLAND

France
Year of Last Request: 1988
Scope of Practice: limited to manipulation
A work permit is necessary for a foreign-trained physician to practice in France. Osteopathic medicine is not recognized by the government, so only M.D.s can obtain full practice rights.
Contact: Conseil National de l’Ordre des Medecins
180 Boulevard Haussmann
F-75389 Paris Cedex 07
FRANCE
http://www.conseil-national.medecin.fr

Germany
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: unlimited
It appears that any foreign physician may apply for licensure to one of the several regional medical authorities, which represents the town in which the applicant intends to live. The regional medical authority has information regarding the types of providers needed in that area and therefore grants licenses depending on the specialty of the foreign physician. As with other European countries, it is rumored that Germany has too many physicians and is not granting licensure to any foreign physicians.
Contact: CEO
Bundesministerium fur Gesundheit
53108 Bonn 2
GERMANY

Ghana
Year of Last Request: 1994
Scope of Practice: unknown
The AOA did not receive a response to its request for information on how a U.S. educated D.O. could obtain licensure.
Contact: Ghana Medical & Dental Council
PO Box 10586
Accra – North
GHANA

Great Britain
Year of Last Request: 1998
Scope of Practice: limited to manipulation
The General Medical Council of Great Britain has consistently denied U.S.-trained D.O.s full practice rights and has declined the AOA's request to permit D.O.s to sit for the medical examination. This may be due in part to the large presence of British "osteopaths," who are non-physician health care providers who practice much like chiropractors.
Contact: Administrative Officer
The Osteopathic Association of Great Britain
62 Messina Avenue
London NW6 4LE
GREAT BRITAIN

Greece
Year of Last Request: 2000
Scope of Practice: unlimited, but difficult to obtain
According to the Greek Embassy, foreign trained physicians holding either the M.D. or the D.O. degree are able to obtain a full practice license. However, such physicians must be Greek citizens in order to practice unless, and such instances are extremely rare, there exists a crucial need for certain types of specialist physicians. Further, a work permit must be obtained, a difficult task, and speaking Greek is an unwritten requirement. In 1998, an osteopathic physician began the process to obtain licensure. 1999 - D.O.s are not officially recognized by law, therefore a subcommittee was formulated to research U.S. osteopathic medicine. The subcommittee sent a positive report to the Medical Council of Greece. The final recommendation of the Medical Council should be issued shortly.
Contact: Mr. Nikos Papaconstantinou
Embassy of Greece
2221 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20008

DIKATSA-Medical Division
112 Sygrou Avenue
11741, Athens
GREECE

Ministry of Health and Education
223 Mesogeion Avenue
115 25 Athens Hellas
GREECE

Guatemala
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: unknown
The AOA did not receive a response to its request for information on how a U.S. educated D.O. could obtain licensure.
Contact: Cirujanos de Guatemala
Chief Executive Officer
17 Calle 1-61 Zona 1
GUATEMALA

Guyana
Year of Last Request: 1996
Scope of Practice: unlimited
A U.S.-trained D.O. was granted a physician license by the Ministry because his credentials were considered as M.D.-equivalent. Osteopathic medicine is not specifically recognized so applications will be considered on a case-by-case basis.
Contact: Chief Medical Officer
Ministry of Health
Brickdam Georgetown 11
GUYANA

 

[Chief Resident]

Honduras
Year of Last Request: 2002
Scope of Practice: Unlimited
The National Autonomous University must accredit all foreign titles. After accreditation is completed, then applicant must seek registration with the Medical College of Honduras (MCH). Titles, grades, and lesson plans must be authenticated in the country where studies were completed. Authentication must be done by the Honduran Consul in the same state. Upon completion, MCH will issue a provisional permit good for one year to a Honduran doctor who has done training outside of Honduras, and foreign applicants must complete two years of the Ad-Honorem Social Service. When the two years have expired, applicant may apply for Definitive Registration.
Contact: Dr. Julio Alberto Bourdeth Tosta
Secretary of Registration
Board of Directors of the Medical College of Honduras
P.O. Box 810
Tegucigalpa, M.D.C.
HONDURAS

Hong Kong
Year of Last Request: 1998
Scope of Practice: unlimited
A letter from the Hong Kong Medical Council explained that there is no legislation governing the registration of osteopathic physicians. A prospective D.O. applicant can apply to the Licentiate Committee in order to sit for the Licentiate Examination. Passage of this exam along with completing “externship training,” would entitle a foreign medical practitioner to full registration by the Medical Council. Applicants must have completed “not less than five years” full-time medical training of a type approved by the Medical Council before application is made. The information sent to the AOA did not specify what type of medical training the Council does approve. However, it did note that the Council may require a personal interview before application is made so that the Council is able to ascertain whether the applicant is indeed eligible for the examination.
Contact: The Licentiate Committee
The Medical Council of Hong Kong
17/F Wu Chung House
213 Queen's Road East
Wanchai
HONG KONG

India
Year of Last Request: 1999
Scope of Practice: undetermined
The AOA received a response to its 1998 inquiry regarding licensure of US-trained DOs. The Medical Council of India stated that osteopathic medicine degree is not recognized for the purpose of IMC Act, 1956. However, they did state that a DO might apply after getting Indian nationality and after implementation of screening test Regulation/Provision in the Indian Medical Council Act.
Contact: Delhi Medical Council
RM NO 356-357 3rd Floor
Bahadur Shah Zafar Marg
New Delhi 110002
INDIA


Indonesia
Year of Last Request: 1992
Scope of Practice: unlimited if with mission or university
Foreign-trained physicians can enjoy unlimited practice rights if they are working in conjunction with a university for a specific project, or if they are providing services on behalf of a mission. Foreign physicians are barred from private practice. No examination is required, yet a degree from an approved medical school is needed.
Contact: Indonesian Medical Association
J1 Sam Ratulangi
Jakarta 29
INDONESIA

Iran
Year of Last Request: 1999
Scope of Practice: unknown
The AOA did not receive a response to its request for information on how a U.S. educated D.O. could obtain licensure.
Contact: Ministry of Health and Medical Education
Keshavarz Blvd.
Building #2 11th Floor
Tehran
IRAN

Ireland
Year of Last Request: 1999
Scope of Practice: denied
The AOA has written numerous letters to various government agencies in Ireland. At its August 1998 meeting, the Education and Training Committee reviewed pertinent information regarding the osteopathic education and training. The Medical Council on the recommendation of its Education and Training Committee decided to once again deny licensure to U.S. trained D.O.s because osteopathic medical schools are not recognized by the Liaison Committee on Medical Education, the U.S. allopathic medical school accreditation body. In 2000, the AOA once again wrote to The Medical Council on the behalf of a U.S. educated D.O. who will be traveling with an American sports group as the team physician to compete in Ireland. The request was for approval to treat U.S. citizen while in Ireland. The response from The Medical Council has been that they will take the matter under consideration.
Contact: Registrar
Medical Council of Ireland
Portobello Court
Lower Rathmines Road
Dublin 6
IRELAND
http://www.medicalcouncil.ie

Israel
Year of Last Request: 1999
Scope of Practice: to be determined
Previously, U.S.-trained osteopathic physicians were granted full practice rights in Israel, providing they have established residence in Israel. It was required that all immigrant physicians pass a licensing examination given in summer or in winter. It is possible to take the test in English, but the knowledge of Hebrew is both necessary and mandatory in order to obtain employment as a physician in Israel (immigrant physicians are eligible for a free 5-mo intensive Hebrew course). The exam is a pass/fail and the format is multiple choice. Areas covered by the exam are internal medicine, surgery, gynecology and obstetrics, and psychiatry. The AOA was informed that the laws in Israel do not specifically include US-trained DOs. The AOA and osteopathic physicians who hold Israeli licensure are working to resolve this issue.
Contact: Prof. Shannon, M.D.
Director
Department of Medical Professions
Ministry of Health
2 Rehov Ben Tabai
Jerusalem 91010
ISRAEL

Italy
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: unlimited, but difficult to obtain
It may be possible for a U.S.-trained D.O. to practice in Italy, yet it is extremely difficult to obtain the license to practice. Non-Italians must obtain a work permit, which is issued only when no Italian citizen can be found to fill the post. Therefore physicians are discouraged from seeking employment in Italy without firm contracts and work permits. According to 1990 AOA file information, if there exists a U.S. state law outlining reciprocity with Italy, a statement to this effect from the Italian Consulate will warrant better chances.
Contact: National Federation of the Orders of Doctors & Dentists
Piazza Cola Di Rienzo 80/A
Rome
ITALY
http://www.fnomceo.it

 

[Chief Resident]

Jamaica
Year of Last Request: 1994
Scope of Practice: limited
The AOA has researched licensure in Jamaica through a specific mission project presented to the Minister of Health by a group of U.S.-trained D.O.s. While the request for D.O. degree recognition and full practice rights were initially denied by the Minister, the D.O.s were permitted to supply some services while participating in the mission.
Contact: Chief Medical Officer
Medical Council of Jamaica
10 Caldonia Avenue
Kingston 5
JAMAICA

Japan
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: unknown
The AOA did not receive a response to its request for information on how a U.S. educated D.O. could obtain licensure.
Contact: Director
Office of Examination and Licensing
Ministry of Health and Welfare
1-2-2 Kasumigaseki
Chiyoda Ku
Tokyo 100-24
JAPAN

Kenya
Year of Last Request: 1991
Scope of Practice: unknown
AOA files do not contain a response from Kenya health officials regarding the status of osteopathic licensure.
Contact: Medical Practitioners and Dentists Board
PO Box 44839
Nairobi
KENYA

Korea
Year of Last Request: 1995
Scope of Practice: unknown
AOA file information includes a request for information regarding the "Korean Society of Osteopathic College of Radiology," but no response was received.
Contact: Ministry of Health & Welfare
1, Chungang-Dong
Kwachon
Kyonggi-Do
REPUBLIC OF KOREA

Kuwait
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: unknown
Per a letter of inquiry from the AOA, the Kuwati Ministry of Public Health requested further information regarding the profession and educational structure of osteopathic medicine as practiced in the United States. The request for additional information was mailed, but no response was received from the Ministry.
Contact: Undersecretary
Ministry of Public Health
PO Box 5
13001 Safat
KUWAIT

Laos
Year of Last Request: 1992
Scope of Practice: unknown
From information obtained from the U.S. Embassy in Laos, it appears that D.O.s can work through medical relief organizations.
Contact: AOA State Government Affairs

Lebanon
Year of Last Request: 2002
Scope of Practice: unlimited
It was reported to the AOA that US-educated osteopathic physicians are considered on an individual basis and need a letter from the AOA citing their education, training, etc. If accepted, the DO can then sit for the medical examination currently used in Lebanon.
Contact: Minister S. Frangieh
Minister of Health
Rue du Musee
Beirut
LEBANON

Liberia
Year of Last Request: sometime before 1990
Scope of Practice: unlimited
All foreign trained physicians must be approved on an individual basis and must submit a photocopy of a license and medical school degree. No distinction between the M.D. and D.O. degrees is made and a rotating internship is required. Special permits are not available, although visits of less than six months can be arranged.
Contact: Liberian Medical Board
Monrovia
LIBERIA

Luxembourg
Year of Last Request: 1987
Scope of Practice: unlimited, but difficult to obtain
The practice of medicine in Luxembourg by a doctor who is not a national of the European Economic Community is very rare.
Contact: Ministere de la Sante
57 Boulevard de la Perusse
L2320
LUXEMBOURG

 

[Chief Resident]

Malaysia
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: denied
Malaysian law does not allow for osteopathic medical practice, therefore the Ministry denied the AOA's request for practice rights.
Contact: Malaysian Medical Council
Ministry of Health
50590 Kuala Lempur
MALAYSIA

Mexico
Year of Last Request: 1998
Scope of Practice: previously denied
Previous AOA file information indicated that D.O. licensure could not be obtained in Mexico unless through the association of a short-term mission project, such as the osteopathic physician group "DOCARE." No physician, D.O. or M.D., may practice in Mexico without working papers, which requires completion of a five-year residency and after which services are given on a limited basis and under the supervision of a Mexican M.D. Political connections are extremely helpful but do not necessarily guarantee licensure.
Contact: Mexico Secretaria-Educacion Publica
Insurgentes sur 1397, 2 01000
Mexico

Micronesia
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Micronesian law does provide specifically for the inclusion of "doctors of osteopathy."
Contact: Secretary of Human Resources
Department of Health Services
Federated States of Micronesia
PO Box PS 70
Palikir, Pohnpei, FM 96941

Morocco
Year of Last Request: 1994
Scope of Practice: denied
Application for physician licensure is a "long and fastidious" procedure, according to the Minister of Health, unless a bilateral cooperation agreement has been signed by Morocco and the applicant's country of origin. According to a representative from the North African Affairs Bureau of the U.S. State Department, no such agreement exists between the U.S. and any country. Therefore no U.S. physicians, whether D.O. or M.D., are eligible to be licensed in Morocco.
Contact: Ministere de la Sante Publique
355, avenue Mohammed V
Rabat
MOROCCO

Nepal
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: unlimited
The Nepalese Minister of Health granted full practice rights to osteopathic physicians upon the AOA's first and only request. Full practice rights will be granted after approval by the Nepal Medical Council and the acquisition of a visa from the Immigration Department.
Contact: Nepal Medical Council
Exhibition Road
Siddi Sadan
Katmandu
NEPAL

Netherlands
Year of Last Request: 1999
Scope of Practice: undetermined
The AOA sent a letter to the Netherlands requesting recognition of the U.S. D.O. degree for licensure of physicians. 1999 - The Ministry of Health, Welfare and Sport sent an application plus the requirements for “admission of foreign doctors.” The requirements for licensure do not specifically recognize U.S.-trained D.O.s. The osteopathic physician interested in licensure will complete the application and submit it for licensure.
Contact: Ministry of Health, Welfare & Sport
PO Box 16114
2500 BC Den Haag
THE NETHERLANDS

New Zealand
Year of Last Request: 2001
Scope of Practice: unlimited on an “exceptions” basis
A US educated DO was granted full licensure to practice medicine. The license was awarded on an “exceptions” basis following a hearing before the licensing authorities in New Zealand.
Contact: Chairman
The Medical Council of New Zealand
PO Box 11649
Wellington
NEW ZEALAND
http://www.ncnz.org.nz

John Cullen, D.O., M.N.Z.R.O.
New Zealand Register of Osteopaths
PO Box 11 853
Wellington
NEW ZEALAND

Nicaragua
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: unknown
Per a telephone conversation with the Assistant Secretary for Non-governmental Assistance, budget constriction in Nicaragua prevents the government from paying foreigners who wish to work in Nicaragua. Financial aid is sometimes given through foundations and tax exemptions are given on items brought by foreign workers, such as medical equipment.
Contact: Minister de Salud
Miniterio de Salud
Ste. A Gallo y Villa Sur
Edif. Complejo Camilo Ortega
Managua
NICARAGUA

Nigeria
Year of Last Request: 1999
Scope of Practice: unlimited
In order to gain licensure in Nigeria, an osteopathic physician must have graduated from an AOA accredited college of osteopathic medicine and must have completed a one-year rotating internship. An appearance in front of the Nigeria Medical Council is also required and an oral quiz may be mandated. Reciprocity exists with several other African countries and with the United States. In 1999, the AOA received a letter from a DO who is licensed in Nigeria. He was licensed in Nigeria by reciprocity of his Texas license and recognition of AOA training programs. He is licensed to practice medicine and surgery with a specialty certificate in orthopedics.
Contact: Dean, Faculty of Medicine
University of Ibadan
Ibadan
NIGERIA

Medical & Dental Council of Nigeria
PO Box 3795
Surulere Lagos
NIGERIA

Norway
Year of Last Request: 1990
Scope of Practice: limited to manipulation
Although D.O.s are able to obtain a license to practice only manipulation in Norway, they are not permitted to use the title "doctor" and all osteopathic services are not covered for payment under Norway's socialized medicine system.
Contact: Directorate of Health of Norway
Post Boks 8128
N-0032 Oslo 1
NORWAY

Pakistan
Year of Last Request: 1996
Scope of Practice: unknown
Although the Council does not recognize the D.O. degree, one U.S.-trained D.O. has been recognized on individual merits by the Council after much documentary evidence; however, his practice is confined to one hospital and he may not engage in private practice.
Contact: Pakistan Medical and Dental Council
Mauve Area
Sector G-10/4
Islamabad Federal Capital
PAKISTAN
http://pmdc.org.pk

Panama
Year of Last Request: 1994
Scope of Practice: unlimited
The University of Panama must first accept the diploma of the applicant as equivalent to that issued by the University. The applicant must also be a citizen of Panama and fulfil any necessary training from the Technical Council of Public Health.
Contact: Director General
Ministerio de Salud
Apartado 2048
Panama 1,
REPUBLIC OF PANAMA

Papua New Guinea
Year of Last Request: 1996
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Two U.S.-trained D.O.s were able to secure medical practitioner licenses. The physicians reported that it was a long, involved process that took approximately one year to accomplish. Physicians can also apply for a short-term or a long-term volunteer service license.
Contact: Registrar
Medical Board of
Papua New Guinea
PO Box 841
Port Moresby National Capital District
PAPUA NEW GUINEA

Peru
Year of Last Request: 1994
Scope of Practice: unknown
The AOA did not receive a response to its request for information on how a U.S. educated D.O. could obtain licensure.
Contact: Colegio Medico del Peru
261 Los Procers
Lima
PERU

Ministry of Health
Ave Salaverry S-N
Cudra 7
Lima
PERU

Philippines
Year of Last Request: 1994
Scope of Practice: unknown
The AOA did not receive a response to its request for information on how a U.S. educated D.O. could obtain licensure.
Contact: Philippines Board of Medicine
P Paredes Street
Sampaloc Manila
PHILIPPINES

 

[Chief Resident]

Romania
Year of Last Request: 1994
Scope of Practice: unknown
The AOA did not receive a response to its request for information on how a U.S. educated D.O. could obtain licensure.
Contact: Ministry of Health and Family
Secdor 1
Ministerului 224
Bucharest
ROMANIA

Russia/Commonwealth of Independent States
Year of Last Request: 1994
Scope of Practice: unlimited with sponsor
Several U.S. trained D.O.s have provided services in parts of the former U.S.S.R. through a program established by Deborah Hospital of New Jersey. According to the U.S. Embassy in Moscow, a licensure process is not up and running; therefore, foreign doctors make arrangements to practice through Russian sponsors, such as hospitals or businesses.
Contact: Russian newspapers/medical journals

Ministry of Public Health
Vadikovsky Per 18-20
101474 Moscow
RUSSIA

Association of Physicians of Russia
15-2-239 Petrozavodskaja St.
125502 Moscow
RUSSIA

St. Lucia
Year of Last Request: 2000
Scope of Practice: unlimited
A U.S.-educated D.O. was granted an unlimited license to practice medicine based on his credentials.
Contact: Medical Council of St. Lucia
Minister of Education & Health
Castries
ST. LUCIA

St. Kitts
Year of last Request: sometime before 1990
Scope of Practice: unknown
AOA file information indicates that the point of contact to inquire about osteopathic licensure is the Permanent Secretary of the Ministry of Health, however no address is given.
Contact: Medical Board of St. Christopher & Nevis
PO Box 186
Basseterre
St. Kitts
WEST INDIES

Saudi Arabia
Year of Last Request: 1994
Scope of Practice: unlimited
In order to practice medicine in Saudi Arabia, a foreign physician must be recruited by a government agency, a corporation or a private health care entity, such as a hospital.
Contact: Saudi newspapers/medical journals

Scotland
Year of Request: 1998
Scope of Practice: denied
An osteopathic physician sponsored by the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons was denied licensure based on the fact that osteopathic medical schools are not accredited by WHO. The AOA supplied the physician with information on osteopathic accreditation and also supplied information that WHO is not an accrediting agency for any medical schools in the U.S.


Sierra *****
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Physician licensure can be obtained in Sierra ***** with the submission of notarized osteopathic medical school diploma, curricula vitae and a letter of intent to the Deputy Chief Medical Officer. Desire to work with a mission or for the needy will work in the applicant's favor. In addition, a D.O. who has been living in Sierra ***** for many years has been extremely helpful in assisting other D.O.s with obtaining practice rights.
Contact: Deputy Chief Medical Officer
Department of Health
Youyi Building, ******fields
Freetown
SIERRA *****


Singapore
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: denied
The Singapore Medical Council will not recognize the D.O. degree; in fact, it will only recognize those M.D. degrees conferred by 11 allopathic medical schools.
Contact: Singapore Medical Council
Level 4 Institute of Health
3 2nd Hospital Avenue 168937
SINGAPORE
http://www.gov.sg/moh

Singapore Medical Council/Ministry of Health
College of Medicine Building
16 College Road
SINGAPORE 169854


South Africa
Year of Last Request: 1996
Scope of Practice: limited to manipulation
Osteopathic medicine is not legislatively defined and many barriers exist in licensing foreign trained physicians despite the crucial need (there is only one doctor per 3,400 black South Africans). In 1996, the AOA wrote a letter to the South African Medical Council on behalf of a D.O. who was part of a medical mission team going to South Africa. The medical council did not wish to grant the U.S.-trained D.O. a temporary license to do medical missions work.
Contact: Registrar
Health Professions Council of South Africa
PO Box 205
Pretoria, Gauteng 0001
SOUTH AFRICA
http://www.hpcsa.co.za

Spain
Year of Last Request: 1994
Scope of Practice: denied
Osteopathic medicine is not regulated in Spain and therefore, per the Secretary General of the Spanish Ministry of Health, D.O.s may not obtain physician licenses.
Contact: Collegi Oficial de Metges de Barcelona
Centre of Studies
Corsega 257 Parl 08036
Barcelona Catalonia
SPAIN

Spanish Consejo General de Colegios Medicos
Villaneuva 114
E-28001 Madrid
SPAIN
http://www.cgcom.org/ome0.htm

Sweden
Year of Last Request: 1996
Scope of Practice: unlimited
An osteopathic physician met with Swedish officials and they did not seem to have any objections to U.S.-trained osteopathic physicians being licensed there (especially since two U.S.-trained D.O.s were granted full practice rights in 1974 and 1976).
Contact: Ministry of Health and Social Affairs
Klara Ostra Kyrkogata #10
Stockholm
SWEDEN

Switzerland
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: denied
Only Swiss citizens and "recognized refugees" are eligible to sit for the state-administered physician licensure exams. Passage of the examinations is the first step in receiving a license. After the examination process, one must obtain a work permit in order to participate in a post doctoral training program (residency) of which there are far less positions than applicants. This work permit expires after twelve months and cannot be renewed. Further, osteopathic medicine is not recognized by the Swiss government.
Contact: Swiss Medical Association
Elfenstrasse 18
3000 Bern 16
SWITZERLAND
http://www.fmh.ch

Syria
Year of Last Request: 1996
Scope of Practice: unknown
The AOA did not receive a response to its request for information on how a U.S. educated D.O. could obtain licensure.
Contact: Minister of Health
Parliament Street
Damascus
SYRIA

Taiwan
Year of Last Request: 1998
Scope of Practice: unlimited
The U.S. D.O. degree is recognized by the R.O.C. government. This allows U.S.-educated D.O.s to sit for Taiwan’s Examination Yuan and, if successful, can continue on in the process for licensure.
Contact: Director
General Department of Health
100 Aikuo East Road
Taipei
TAIWAN

Tanzania
Year of Last Request: 1985
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Licensure will be granted to applicants with medical school degrees who have completed a required, although unspecified, residency. Temporary work permits are available and reregistration is required annually.
Contact: Medical Council of Tanganyika
PO Box 9083
Dar-es-Salaam
TANZANIA

Thailand
Year of Last Request: 1996
Scope of Practice: undetermined
The AOA did not receive a response to its request for information on how a U.S. educated D.O. could obtain licensure.
Contact: Thai Medical Council
275 Devavesm Palace
Bangkok 2
THAILAND

Turkey
Year of Last Request: 1988
Scope of Practice: unknown
AOA file information is scant and to date no new requests have been made.
Contact: Turkey Ministry of Health
T.C. Saglik Bakanligi
Sihhiye Ankara
TURKEY

 

[Chief Resident]

Uganda
Year of Last Request: 1990
Scope of Practice: denied
Uganda does not recognize the osteopathic profession and has therefore denied any type of practice rights to U.S. trained D.O.s.
Contact: Registrar
Uganda Medical and Dental Practitioners
PO Box 16115
Wandegeya Kampala
UGANDA

Ukraine
Year of Last Request: 1999
Scope of Practice: unknown
There has been discussion about the possibility of establishing rotations, specifically ophthalmology, in the Ukraine. Documentation has been sent regarding the equivalence of DOs and MDs in the United States.
Contact: Contact the AOA for further information
(800) 621-1773 ext. 8280

United Arab Emirates
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: unlimited
Although a response to the AOA's request of the Minister of Health has not yet been received, a U.S.-trained D.O. who has practiced in the U.A.E. for many years has informed the AOA about the status of osteopathic licensure. Physician licensure is difficult. In 2004, 3 osteopathic physicians petitioned for recognition. The Ministry contacted the UAE Embassy in the United States for more information. The AOA provided the Embassy with information about the profession and are awaiting the final decision from the Ministry of Health.
Contact: Ministry of Health
PO Box 848
Abu Dhabi,
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
http://www.moh.gov.ae

Venezuela
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: unknown
To date, the AOA has not received a response from the Health Minister regarding osteopathic licensure.
Contact: Ministerio de Sanidad & Asistencia Social
Recursos Humanos
Chief Executive Officer
Caracas
VENEZUELA

Vietnam
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: unlimited
U.S.-trained D.O.s will be accepted as full physicians in Vietnam. Foreign physicians can fill vacancies in hospitals that are in need of certain specialists. However, these hospitals are government-owned and pay very low wages if any at all. Most foreign physicians are providing volunteer care to the people of Vietnam.
Contact: Ministry of Health
138A Gian Vo Street
Hanoi
VIETNAM

Professor Nguyen Kim Son
Viet-Doc Hospital
40 Trang Thi
Hanoi
VIETNAM

Professor Le Huy Lieu
Bach Mai Hospital
Giai Phonv Road
Hanoi
VIETNAM

Professor Trihn Kim Anh
Cho Ray Hospital
201A Nguyen Chi Thanh Street
District 5, HCMC
VIETNAM

Zambia
Year of Last Request: 1971
Scope of Practice: unlimited
A degree from an accredited college of osteopathic medicine is required for licensure in Zambia.
Contact: Medical Council of Zambia
PO Box 32554
Lukasa 10101
ZAMBIA

Zimbabwe
Year of Last Request: 1993
Scope of Practice: limited to manipulation
After review of the osteopathic medical curriculum, the Health Professions Council of Zimbabwe denied the AOA's request for full practice rights and instead referred D.O. Iicensure requests to the Natural Therapists Council.
Contact: Medical and Dental Practitioners Council of Zimbabwe
PO Box CY2817
Causeway Harare
ZIMBABWE

 

[macman]

I'm pretty pissed about Micronesia!

anyway-reading through the above provides really good evidence that the name 'osteopath' is now outdated and poorly represents what we do and are trained to do.

 

[Megalofyia]

This is the best thing OSUdoc has ever posted 😉

DOs international practice rights are horrible compared to MDs, that's a well-established fact. Practice rights are the exception. It is NOT, as megalofyia suggested, comparable to MDs international experience.

If you do a search on the member portion of the AOA site, there is .pdf file with DOs practice rights in various countries. Make sure you read the explanations, because more often than not "full practice rights" when even present means they allowed some DO to do something in 1976 or something.

I didn't say it was comparable.. i just said that MDs couldnt' practice in every country either.

 

[jonb12997]

I didn't say it was comparable.. i just said that MDs couldnt' practice in every country either.

they can't? I guess I don't understand what you mean... (seriously not trying to be sarcastic, I'm just curious what you mean by that)

 

[Megalofyia]

they can't? I guess I don't understand what you mean... (seriously not trying to be sarcastic, I'm just curious what you mean by that)

What I mean is that not every other country in the world allows American MDs to practice in their countries. American MDs are not universally accepted as physicians the world over. I'm not sure how else to explain this. Some countries do not allow American MDs to practice medicine in their countries.

 

[jonb12997]

that's what I figured you ment... thanks for clarifying

 

[docbill]

Most American's don't even plan on leaving N.America. So who cares if you can't practice in France.

BTW, did you know that Physicians don't get payed well in the rest of the world. Hmmmm think about that.

 

[CatsandCradles]

Hey if your reading this Chief Resident, I want to thank you for the list of nations you have posted on. I tried to find it on the AOA, but it said I had to pay something in order to access it 😱

It's going to help clear up a lot of things.

I didn't know that individual Canadian provinces had so much jurisdiction over medicine!

I recently had an interview at WV and the folks there told me that in Japan, there has been a lot of argue and debate over this issue.

At least Kenya hasn't flat out denied DOs. I'd really like to spend some time doing some type of missonary work or service there.

 

[CircleTheDrain]

This is a weird question but this thread seems the best place to ask.

"shake a child and stop scarlet fever, croup, diphtheria, and cure whooping cough in three days by a wring of its neck." (Andrew Taylor Still, Autobiography, New York, 1972, Arno Press)

Do DOs still accept this on faith or is it considered nonsense of Still's? Sort of the Satanic Verses of the Quran?

 

[Taus]

Simple answer: no, thats nonsense

Sarcastic answer: Do MD's still perform blood-letting?...things change...

 

[docbill]

Do MDs still use heavy metals. Still perform surgery with out anesthetic? Do they still think they are god and only train their skills to son's only?

Since William Osler (Canadian) changed the curriculim things have been going much better I hear.

Since they started allowing women in the profession, things are much better for sure.

People forget that before the 19th and 20th century Allopathic medicine was a guessing game (hence the birth of Osteopathic Med) and that research was not really that huge a thing in Allopathic field. That was left to those sad looking PhDs.

 

[Shodddy18]

Chief Resident was banned.... Yay 👍

Its about freaking time that ***** got the boot...

 

[Jack Daniel]

Chief Resident was banned.... Yay 👍

Its about freaking time that ***** got the boot...

Someone, I'm sure, will pick up where CR left off... 😡

 

[Shodddy18]

Someone, I'm sure, will pick up where CR left off... 😡

unfortunately

 

[allendo]

Chief Resident was banned.... Yay 👍

Its about freaking time that ***** got the boot...

God was listening