Couples Match - Interview Offers

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My partner and I are going through the couples match. One of us is going into a competitive specialty and the other not. I have receive offers for interviews, but the specialty my partner is going for does not offer interview until late in the interview season. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I should handle this as there is no way I can afford or have the mind set to interview at a ton of places, especially if my partner does not get an offer. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
My partner and I are going through the couples match. One of us is going into a competitive specialty and the other not. I have receive offers for interviews, but the specialty my partner is going for does not offer interview until late in the interview season. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I should handle this as there is no way I can afford or have the mind set to interview at a ton of places, especially if my partner does not get an offer. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

I would schedule the IV's late in the season so you'll know before you go on the interview if your partner has IV's in the same area. As long as you give programs a decent heads up there is nothing wrong with canceling.
 
I would schedule the IV's late in the season so you'll know before you go on the interview if your partner has IV's in the same area. As long as you give programs a decent heads up there is nothing wrong with canceling.

Thanks I really appreciate it.

Is there anyone else out there is the same boat as me? Or anyone that has been through this before?
 
I went through this a few years ago-both my wife and I went into "competitive" fields. I understand that you are not in the mindset to interview at a ton of places, nor do you think you can afford to. I felt the same way.

Unfortunately the consequence of not matching is pretty bad, and you need to do everything you can to avoid it. It is a lot of money and time, but they are a drop in the bucket compared to what you have spent and will spend on your career in terms of money, time, and sacrifice. Where you match is a big deal, and my guiding thought was to make sure that no matter what happened, we could look back and say “we did everything we could.” With that in mind, here are my thoughts:

You both need to focus on cities that have multiple programs for each of you.

The applicant for the competitive specialty needs to interview everywhere they can.

I would argue that the applicant for the “non-competitive” specialty needs to interview almost everywhere they can as well for the following rationale: Let’s say you knew where the competitive specialty partner was going to match—wouldn’t you interview at as many places as you could in that city? It would give you a better chance of matching and more options in the program or type of program you are in. No matter what you’re doing, that’s at least three years of your life. The problem with the match is that it really could be just one program that your partner is able to match into (especially if it's a competitive specialty) and you don't know which program it is. Approach the interview season as though you are applying to a competitive specialty. In a sense, you are--your partner's. You can hold it over their head for the rest of your lives.

If I were the applicant going into the non-competitive field, I would NOT push all of my interviews to the end of the interview season for the following reasons:

1. You may run into scheduling conflicts if you cram them in at the end and then need to change dates or add interviews later. You just don't know what is going to happen.

2. It's nice for the competitive-program-applying partner to say “I am couples matching, my partner already interviewed here (or in the region), and they really like the program” during the interview day.

3. Going on a lot of interviews within a short period of time is exhausting.

4. In general, I think it just gives you more flexibility and comfort to know what you’re dealing with early on, rather than waiting until the very end and having it all come together at the same time.

If you're worried that the schools are going to forget about you, or think that your partner never interviewed in the region, I think it would be appropriate to send them an update letter when he/she does.

Having said all that, I understand not wanting to go on every single interview. It feels like a waste of time, and it’s certainly a big expense. My wife and I were each cancelling interviews by the end of the season.

So here’s what I would do:

Schedule some of your interviews early in the interview season. Focus on high-yield regions (regions with multiple programs for your partner). This will probably end up being cities like Los Angeles, New York, Boston, Chicago, and a few others. Put those interviews closer to the beginning of the season, and put low-yield regions (regions with fewer programs for your partner) towards the end of your interview season.

You may be contacted by programs and told that you are "ranked to match" or "they would love to have you" or something similar. I cannot stress enough that you CANNOT believe them. It is nice to hear, and it does suggest that your chances are good, but it is not a binding contract and you should take it as a compliment and nothing more. I personally know multiple people who were told they were "ranked to match" by one program and matched elsewhere despite the fact that they had ranked that program #1.

You may have logistical conflicts that force you to choose to interview at one program INSTEAD of another. Know where your partner has applied, where they have been rejected, and where they have been offered interviews so that you can quickly respond to interview invitations while taking your partner's interview status into consideration. Available dates fill-up quickly, especially for some of the competitive specialties. Communicating with your partner and staying organized is key.

When would I cancel interviews? I would cancel an interview if my partner did not have an interview in that region, or I had already interviewed at multiple programs within a given region and felt that my chances of matching there were high.

You will spend more time and money during the interview season than you want to, but you will get through it. As bad as the couple's match may seem, it's not nearly as bad as it would be if it didn't exist.

Best of luck.
 
Thank you so much for the advice. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain everything. I have been scheduling interviews earlier now (especially "high yield" cities like Chicago, NY. Boston, etc.) and will just have to interview at as many places as I possibly can in every region. I have about 20 offers with 40 pending, so it is a little chaotic. I am hoping once my partner starts to here if they are offered or rejected, I can cancel some interviews depending on the location. I will keep people updated as I progress through this mess. Thanks.
 
That's a lot of interviews to have this early. I can understand your concern, and you'll probably be able to politely decline some interview offers in the future.

After reading the past few posts regarding the couples match, I realized that it would useful to have a small online community dedicated to people going through the couples match. So I started one.

There is now a facebook group titled "Residency Couples Match" for people planning to participate in the couples match. My thought is that it can be a community/support group where you can ask questions, share experiences, and just vent if that's what you need to do. I'm going to ask some current residents who recently participated in the couples match join as well.

I've already posted a few documents that I think you'll find useful:
1. Implications of the Couples Match
2. Scheduling Interviews
3. Travel Tips
4. The Interview

The first two are specific to the couples match, The last two are applicable to the interview season in general and can be found in the "Residency Match" facebook group as well.
 
Does anyone know if people can do a couples match if one partner is applying to a residency match and the other partner is looking for a fellowship match?
 
Does anyone know if people can do a couples match if one partner is applying to a residency match and the other partner is looking for a fellowship match?

No you cannot. The matches happen at different times.

On the upside, you will know where one of the people will be prior to the second one having to match so you can be a little more targeted in applications. On the downside of course, you're much more limited in where you apply as the second person.
 
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