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btbam said:
Crossfit is idiotic. I do Orange Theory for cardio workouts and lift weights on my own. OT is mindless cause someone just tells you what to do for an hour, but it makes me do way more cardio than I'd ever do on my own.
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Orangetheory is the way to go. Safer workouts then crossfit. Trained motivated staff. Crossfit keeps the orthopedic surgeons employed.
 
I remember our old IBM computer and it’s 4mb of RAM. That’s 4 megabytes in the mid 1990s. I couldn’t play “Doom” on our computer because of this. But I played Wolfenstein until the cows came home.

For exercise I have an everlast heavy bag that I pound and some freeweights in the garage.
 
anbuitachi said:
wait so you bought an apple laptop for 2x the cost as PC and the apple is running better? no way!
I've been using PC forever. had zero problems ever. my current desktop is 8 years old. still running strong. my HP laptop is 7 years old, and only thing i had to do was replace the battery once cause it wasn't lasting as long as i'd liked which is expected for such an old computer. Neither the PC nor desktop cost more than 650$. if you want high end PC experience, i'd suggest spending apple dollars. spend 1200 on a PC laptop and notice how amazing it is. super smooth
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i have only used the pc before 2014. the fact that PCs are 1/3rd the price they used to be a decade ago, isnt my fault and it does not make PCs a superior product, nor macbooks an inferior one. we have Fujitsu laptop at my work which i often take home. its supposedly more expensive than macbook - still more bulky. still takes longer to boot up. still crappier battery life...
still they are not as good as a macbook for 95% of the applications i need on a daily basis - google search, youtube, netflix, and general reading as well as chromecast streaming. its lightening fast and not glitchy.
battery life is amazing. portable, light - it doesnt heat up at all. easy to carry. nice buttons...its just a superior product and therefore, killing the computer business...
 
Wow that’s some aggressive yoga
 
One of my partners, a former baseball player, injured his shoulder doing yoga. He required surgery and was out for 4 months.
 
AdmiralChz said:
Yep, our orthopods see a glut of injuries from cross fit - these are young, healthy patients typically with solid private insurance. Love all around for CrossFit with us.



+1, not many men in OT but I’d be hard pressed to get a better workout in an hour without running from the police.
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The cost of Orange Theory keeps most people away. It’s a little ridiculous.
 
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neutro said:
but lasts 5 x longer.
Personal experience buying Apple for the first time:
Apple macbook pro - bought in 2014 for 1200 dollars. still going strong. infact using it to type this post.
HP laptop bought in jan 2016 - bought or $580 - glitchy/slow/super annoying by Sept 2016. havent used it much over the last two years.
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People keep saying that, and I believe them, but why would you keep any device for that long? Even the laptop with the best specs (which isn't Apple, btw) will be severely outdated in even five years. If you go through two cheaper laptops in the same amount of time you end up with a much better laptop after all these years, having spent less money. Apple is only for the people that make so much that they could upgrade every 4 years. Instead, there's plenty of people that buy one and have to keep it for seven years, and in the end they have an ancient laptop. Same for iphones. Go Chinese. Spend arOund 250. Upgrade every 2-3 years.
 
i have 2011 macbookpro, about 3 years ago I put an SSD HD into it, works like new. nothing really outdated unless you try to play intense games.
 
chocomorsel said:
The cost of Orange Theory keeps most people away. It’s a little ridiculous.
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I pay $99 a month for 8 classes. I think unlimited is $150. Expensive? I guess so, but I think it's worth spending a little more to keep my ticker in good shape.
 
Isn’t Orange Theory just HIIT? You can get some apps on your phone that give you HIIT workouts for just a couple bucks. Nike has a good one and it’s free.

Speaking of expensive fitness fads, is anyone using Peloton?
 
btbam said:
I pay $99 a month for 8 classes. I think unlimited is $150. Expensive? I guess so, but I think it's worth spending a little more to keep my ticker in good shape.
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The Crossfit gym down the street from me is $260/month unlimited.
 
GravelRider said:
Isn’t Orange Theory just HIIT? You can get some apps on your phone that give you HIIT workouts for just a couple bucks. Nike has a good one and it’s free.

Speaking of expensive fitness fads, is anyone using Peloton?
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Same thing. The people I know who have one love it but it only works with the 40/mth subscription. It gets every crazier when you look at Soulcycle classes, which are like $300 for 10 classes.
 
Blackdogue said:
People keep saying that, and I believe them, but why would you keep any device for that long? Even the laptop with the best specs (which isn't Apple, btw) will be severely outdated in even five years. If you go through two cheaper laptops in the same amount of time you end up with a much better laptop after all these years, having spent less money. Apple is only for the people that make so much that they could upgrade every 4 years. Instead, there's plenty of people that buy one and have to keep it for seven years, and in the end they have an ancient laptop. Same for iphones. Go Chinese. Spend arOund 250. Upgrade every 2-3 years.
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thats makes absolutely no sense.
 
neutro said:
thats makes absolutely no sense.
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It makes perfect sense. Keep iphone/macbook for 7-8 years vs. Upgrade from a cheaper laptop/phone that costs half as much every 3-4 years. The one that you will buy after 3-4 will have better specs than the Apple one.
 
Blackdogue said:
It makes perfect sense. Keep iphone/macbook for 7-8 years vs. Upgrade from a cheaper laptop/phone that costs half as much every 3-4 years. The one that you will buy after 3-4 will have better specs than the Apple one.
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Alright dude. Good for you.

Still makes no sense.
 
Twiggidy said:
Right. Don’t buy a BMW when you can buy a Chevy every 3-4 years
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Sure, If a new Chevy came out after 3-4 years, that was superior to the old bmw. Phone and laptop technology improves much faster than cars so these devices become outdated equally fast. A seven year old iphone is archaic (unlike a seven year old bmw). There are new 250 dollar phones that are superior to a 7 year old iphone. Laptops are similar. For example, just 2-3 years ago SSDs cost like 300 bucks. Now they cost one third of that. Most new laptops have them, even in the 400 dollar range. But even a three year old 1400 dollar macbook probably wouldn't have it. Of course, If money isn't an issue, then by all means buy an apple device and upgrade it every 3-4 years. I just don't want to be stuck with the same device for 7-8 years, when new and cheaper models are coming out, just because I paid so much for it. I don't appreciate you guys being so condescending, btw.
 
Blackdogue said:
Sure, If a new Chevy came out after 3-4 years, that was superior to the old bmw. Phone and laptop technology improves much faster than cars so these devices become outdated equally fast. A seven year old iphone is archaic (unlike a seven year old bmw). There are new 250 dollar phones that are superior to a 7 year old iphone. Laptops are similar. For example, just 2-3 years ago SSDs cost like 300 bucks. Now they cost one third of that. Most new laptops have them, even in the 400 dollar range. But even a three year old 1400 dollar macbook probably wouldn't have it. Of course, If money isn't an issue, then by all means buy an apple device and upgrade it every 3-4 years. I just don't want to be stuck with the same device for 7-8 years, when new and cheaper models are coming out, just because I paid so much for it. I don't appreciate you guys being so condescending, btw.
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I value reliability over having the newest, shiniest product. Likewise the argument can be made that since Apple makes reliable products you don't have to upgrade them every 4 years. Honestly, how different is the iPhone 8 vs the iPhone 10? (I still use an 8 and have no need for a 10). Same goes for just about every Macbook and iMac. If you're doing high level PC gaming that's the only reason I see the need to upgrade a PC every four years, which honestly is another argument for Apple. Even 4 years out and old Macbook can still handle new software while a 4 year old PC can't.
 
Twiggidy said:
I value reliability over having the newest, shiniest product. Likewise the argument can be made that since Apple makes reliable products you don't have to upgrade them every 4 years. Honestly, how different is the iPhone 8 vs the iPhone 10? (I still use an 8 and have no need for a 10). Same goes for just about every Macbook and iMac. If you're doing high level PC gaming that's the only reason I see the need to upgrade a PC every four years, which honestly is another argument for Apple. Even 4 years out and old Macbook can still handle new software while a 4 year old PC can't.
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Well, I don't see the value in reliability if these devices will anyways become outdated in 4-5 years. I'd rather have something newer and faster, while also spending less. That's only possible because apple is so damn expensive that you can find similar specs in other brands at half the price sometimes. Need is anyways a strong word for any of these gadgets, it's just a matter of preference, I guess.
 
I am not being condescending. I can say that you are being sensitive and unable to understand basic premises of depreciating items and value.

Let me explain:
Most doctors make more in a day than these items, and they can afford these devices - either 600 or 1400. its not going to harm our finances or net worth. thats not the issue.
What we do not like doing is standing in the line at DMV for an hour, going to EPIC training, spending 4 hours cleaning up our computers, waiting 2 minutes to restart a computer, and constantly upgrading crap every 1-3 months and use unreliable products. Its all about efficiency. efficiency is a product of time. and as you get older and more mature, you will realize that time is worth a lot more than just some $ amount.

I switched to iphone in my last year of residency just by chance, and I'm sure that there are better products with better features, but i decided to keep iphone because:
1) i did not have to manually enter the contacts and it downloaded from cloud almost instantenously when i upgraded,
2) messaging, facetime, and internet was glitch free.
3) phone was very easy to work with in terms of troubleshooting.
4) reliability and customer support - i like that i book an appt at the store, i take my phone, they email me back and are responsive to the specific problem that occurred with the device.

The above few points is why i use the phone. its not because of the looks. its not because i am some apple fan boy or own apple stock. Its just a reliable product that is gets the job done for what I want in a phone, which is just an item. it has no real inherent value. its not like i can sell it and make money.

Also, a 600 dollar computer or 1400 dollar computer are both depreciating items, just like a new car or a good used car or a beater. The real value of depreciating assets is achieved with prolonged use. For instance, if you buy a brand new car (although not advisable), you should drive it atleast 8-10 years and sell it because around that time $spent per year on car/years driven starts to normalize.
All these things are a function of time.
To me, a 1400 dollar product that lasts 6 years reliably is a better deal than a 600 product that lasts 3 years and then you repeat the process at year 3. You are not taking into account the hassle of making another purchase, going the store, researching, transferring data, and troubleshooting.
 
Blackdogue said:
Well, I don't see the value in reliability if these devices will anyways become outdated in 4-5 years. I'd rather have something newer and faster, while also spending less. That's only possible because apple is so damn expensive that you can find similar specs in other brands at half the price sometimes. Need is anyways a strong word for any of these gadgets, it's just a matter of preference, I guess.
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you'd rather have something "newer and faster" and you have a "need".
well thats the problem...its not a 600 dollar computer or a 1400 dollar computer.
 
neutro said:
you'd rather have something "newer and faster" and you have a "need".
well thats the problem...its not a 600 dollar computer or a 1400 dollar computer.
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Well I appreciate where you're coming from, but as I said, if money isn't an issue, then by all means buy Apple. But money is most certainly an issue for me and upgrading isn't much of a hassle, in fact I like the whole process of researching and buying something new. I'm not in residency yet, so maybe I will become more like you in time, but don't tell me I don't understand how things work just because I have different priorities than you do (money vs time and convenience). It's not a matter of maturity, I'm just in a different stage of my life than you are.
 
Blackdogue said:
Well I appreciate where you're coming from, but as I said, if money isn't an issue, then by all means buy Apple. But money is most certainly an issue for me and upgrading isn't much of a hassle, in fact I like the whole process of researching and buying something new. I'm not in residency yet, so maybe I will become more like you in time, but don't tell me I don't understand how things work just because I have different priorities than you do (money vs time and convenience). It's not a matter of maturity, I'm just in a different stage of my life than you are.
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yeah, sorry you don't understand how things work as a medical student. Its not completely your fault - its failure of high school, undergrad, and medical school education that do not teach basic personal finance and time value of money.

Its not personal, its simply because you do not have experience. By the way, we all have had same priorities as we all did medical school, most of us were broke as students and residents and first year attendings.

I recommend checking out dave ramsey, whitecoat investor, and mr money moustache.

Its not about making money, its about suppressing your 'needs', saving money and living below your means.

cheers.
 
sleepallday said:
This has got to win an award for ultimate derailment of a thread
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It's also a little off base because IMO the whole initial price vs reliability isn't even the real issue with PC vs Apple. The issue is reliability vs flexibility (this can be extended into the phone realm with Apple vs Android as well). If you want reliability with minimal flexibility with your equipment, software, or experience, then by all means buy Apple (but truthfully the reliability difference isn't as big anymore as it used to be). If you would rather have the flexibility to tailor your equipment, software, and experience to your own personal style (at more than just a cosmetic level) then you need to buy PC (or Android). And the difference in flexibility between the options isn't what it used to be either.
 
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acidbase1 said:
Yoga keeps them busy?
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Mad Jack said:
Hot yoga man, it's dangerous. Had a medical student on my service that was out for surgery for three days because he obliterated a meniscus doing hot yoga.
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Twiggidy said:
ligament tears
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nimbus said:
One of my partners, a former baseball player, injured his shoulder doing yoga. He required surgery and was out for 4 months.
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I’ve noticed that yoga instructors do an extremely poor job of instructing novices on how to perform yoga within the limitations of ones skill/flexibility level. While demonstrating they’ll get themselves into the most extreme position and expect everyone to follow suit. Even on basic yoga posts on Instagram they’ll have an “if you want this, then do this” type of instructional post and they’re all super advanced.
 
I figure CrossFit has paid my mortgage for at least a few years with all the ortho surgeries we have had as a result.
So please people, keep doing cross fit.
 
CrossFit without the high skill movements of gymnastics or Olympic lifting at high rate would just be called high intensity interval training

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I just watch my carbs and walk every day. It's free too. And I'm writing this on a Mac and I have a Surface Pro that I'm really happy with...
 
DocVapor said:
It's also a little off base because IMO the whole initial price vs reliability isn't even the real issue with PC vs Apple. The issue is reliability vs flexibility (this can be extended into the phone realm with Apple vs Android as well). If you want reliability with minimal flexibility with your equipment, software, or experience, then by all means buy Apple (but truthfully the reliability difference isn't as big anymore as it used to be). If you would rather have the flexibility to tailor your equipment, software, and experience to your own personal style (at more than just a cosmetic level) then you need to buy PC (or Android). And the difference in flexibility between the options isn't what it used to be either.
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Agreed. Apple stuff is great for people who dont care about flexibility, They just want something given to them that they can use and works well for everyday things (surf, email, watching a few videos etc). PC is a lot more flexible, and its more than just the price. you can have a 1200$ PC and 1200 MAC and the PC still boot up slower than the MAC cause there are SO many different types of PCs. you got to buy the one that satisfy your needs. eg there's no point spending 1200$ on a PC with high end GPU that cost 400$ alone that wont even be used with your daily surfing, but if you want faster bootups, a good SSD for extra 100$ can EASILY make bootup much much faster
 
lol I love how complicated PC products are. Now we are discussing what if scenarios! Ooooh, OBVIOUSLY you need a big ass engine in pc to compete with a similar MacBook and you need this and that and THEN the competition is fair.

This is exactly why I opted for an apple. It’s so much simpler. That itself has value.
 
sleepallday said:
This has got to win an award for ultimate derailment of a thread
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Yeah - well you ARE discussing consumption on a public forum - fitness VS computer manufacturer. I wouldn’t be offended. If I was looking for inspiration and gaining knowledge i’d read a good book instead.
 
neutro said:
lol I love how complicated PC products are. Now we are discussing what if scenarios! Ooooh, OBVIOUSLY you need a big ass engine in pc to compete with a similar MacBook and you need this and that and THEN the competition is fair.

This is exactly why I opted for an apple. It’s so much simpler. That itself has value.
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I have a hobby that is pretty much Mac dominated so I'll always just have to budget for a Mac......IF it ever dies.
 
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abolt18 said:
Lenovo laptop bought in 2012 for $900, still going strong...
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17" Toshiba bought for $380 on Black Friday 2011, still doing fine after a few battery changes.

(Though the most intensive tasks it performs are Netflix streaming and Skype.)
 
neutro said:
lol I love how complicated PC products are. Now we are discussing what if scenarios! Ooooh, OBVIOUSLY you need a big ass engine in pc to compete with a similar MacBook and you need this and that and THEN the competition is fair.

This is exactly why I opted for an apple. It’s so much simpler. That itself has value.
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Pssshhh your iBoner smugness is showing.

You should work on your reading comprehension, because that wasn't the point of the most recent posts here.
 
DocVapor said:
Pssshhh your iBoner smugness is showing.
You should work on your reading comprehension, because that wasn't the point of the most recent posts here.
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The only thing thats showing is your lack of mannerisms and inferiority complex.

Thank you.
 
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