Cytology book: Baby DeMay vs. Cibas/Ducatman

[Michael Stipe]

I'm trying to choose between the Baby DeMay and "Cytology: Diagnostic Principles and Clinical Correlates" by Cibas and Ducatman.

Has anyone read both - and do you have a recommendation for one over the other?

Or, if you haven't read both, are you just in love with one of them?

I definitely want one of these two books ... no 2 volume set.

Also, it doesn't matter to me how new the edition is - just content, layout, etc.

Thanks.

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[deschutes]

I prefer and own Baby DeMay. As far as I could tell, the difference between the two was that DeMay had lots of pictures (better for doing "wallpaper matches", and for boards review) while Cibas had lots of text descriptors (occasionally useful in the Microscopic Description section of reports, instead of describing every cell as having "irregular nuclear outlines and prominent nucleoli" etc.)

 

[cytoborg]

While many folks seem to like the baby DeMay, I prefer & bought the Cibas. Same compact size w/ good images, but nice bullet-point lists of diagnostic features, easier to use IMO. I don't like wading through a lot of text.

 

[danaphosaurus]

One of the residents here read Cibas cover to cover- She liked it because it was basic and explained things. After that she went through big Demay (which is in our library) and reviewed the pictures and she is going to go through baby as a board review.

 

[listeriaismfb]

I read baby DeMay, I found it to be a very pleasant read and call it a "must have" for junior colleagues. I trained AP/CP at the U of C, and signed out cytology with DeMay...

You should probably look at both and figure out which would work best for you. Given your study style/habits one book may be a better fit for you than the other.

Sorry about the "non-diagnostic" response....

 

[deleted57552]

I haven't read baby Demay but have read some of the big Demay...it's quite a lot to digest. The Cibas & Ducatman book is quite good because it goes quite a bit into detail about rationale, management algorithms, capabilities, challenges, and limitations of doing certain kinds of FNAs. There are a lot of other good cytology books out there but for a resident training in AP, the Cibas book is a nice read and a good place to start. Just an FYI, the new edition of the Cibas book is coming out within a year so I wouldn't jump on buying the older edition at this point.

 

[CameronFrye]

Just an FYI, the new edition of the Cibas book is coming out within a year so I wouldn't jump on buying the older edition at this point.

Dang it, I just got the old one. Oh well, how much has really changed in cytology? How many ways can you update "atypical cells, defer to biopsy"? 🙂

(Just in case the emoticon isn't enough, my comment was TIC).

 

[rirriri]

in terms of 'baby' books....most people i've spoken with prefer the Cibas book, because of the format in which it is written. I, however, prefer the style of DeMay's writing...

but then again, i shelled out and bought the BIG DeMay 😀

can't really read it for the boards though